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#1,451
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3 reasons I want #11.

1. Highest guy on the board
2. 7 ft'er that seems fit the Barnes mold for bigs.
3. Listening to Bob try and pronounce his name. That'd be gold.
 
#1,454
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bleedingTNorange said:
Guys holding offers in 2017:

#11 Ikechukwu Obiagu
#25 MJ Walker
#63 Rayshaun Hammonds
#67 Nickiel Alexander-Walker
#77 Lindell Wigginton
#87 Victor Uyaelumno
#121 Lavar Batts
#130 Nicholas Claxton
#133 Zach Kent
#135 David Sloan
#143 Wyatt Wilkes
#156 Isaiah Stokes


I feel comfortable saying Tennessee is in good shape early with both Stokes and Hammonds, don't know enough about their position with the others.
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If anyone on this list is 6'7 or shorter then I feel good about. Anyone taller. Forget it. We never recruit bigs well.
 
#1,457
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bleedingTNorange said:
This year, no, I'm not. Grant Willims and John Fulkerson are guys that he targeted and evaluated very early on, he also saw Jordan Bruner and Braxton Blackwell two guys ranked higher, and like the games of the first two more. To me, that means something, unless you're suggesting the guy flat out just can't evaluate talent, then it should carry some weight. I think you'll see these guys rankings climb, probably not into top 100 range, but I think top 150 by some services is possible. This is a class full of guys who best case are 4 year players, develop their games and bodies, and follow a career path of say Josh Richardson. The next step is that we need to find some guys who can contribute in a major way immediately, hopefully by only having say 2-3 scholarships for the 2017 class, the staff is able to do that.
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That's fair to say about this year, he didn't have much time to put this class together. My only concern would be that he is a coach that is used to having talent, he had it almost his entire time at Texas. If he is unable to recruit at a high level, which I have already stated I believe will be hard for him here, then I don't know if he has the energy to "reinvent" himself at this stage of his career.
 
#1,458
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grizzfan86 said:
That's fair to say about this year, he didn't have much time to put this class together. My only concern would be that he is a coach that is used to having talent, he had it almost his entire time at Texas. If he is unable to recruit at a high level, which I have already stated I believe will be hard for him here, then I don't know if he has the energy to "reinvent" himself at this stage of his career.
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He didn't have the talent at neither Clemson or Providence. There were times where Barnes' had incredibly talented teams at Texas, but they couldn't click. I believe Barnes will do fine with less talent.
 
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iKrager said:
He didn't have the talent at neither Clemson or Providence. There were times where Barnes' had incredibly talented teams at Texas, but they couldn't click. I believe Barnes will do fine with less talent.
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Rob Lewis suggested that Barnes is/was a little over the one and done guys, or possibly worse the guys who thought they were one and dones. Reading between the lines, it sounds like maybe Barnes/Ogden/Lanier attribute some of their shortcoming the last few years at Texas to having guys who were talented but not willing to put in the work or listens being coached. I don't think that means we won't see him target some highly recruited guys, but it sounds like he's gonna make "coachability" a pretty high priority when evaluating a prospect. Could be why in 2017 you're not seeing many top 20 guys/5 stars, you're seeing a lot of the 40-100 ranked guys who typically have the ability to play in the NBA, but do need some time and development.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Rob Lewis suggested that Barnes is/was a little over the one and done guys, or possibly worse the guys who thought they were one and dones. Reading between the lines, it sounds like maybe Barnes/Ogden/Lanier attribute some of their shortcoming the last few years at Texas to having guys who were talented but not willing to put in the work or listens being coached. I don't think that means we won't see him target some highly recruited guys, but it sounds like he's gonna make "coachability" a pretty high priority when evaluating a prospect. Could be why in 2017 you're not seeing many top 20 guys/5 stars, you're seeing a lot of the 40-100 ranked guys who typically have the ability to play in the NBA, but do need some time and development.
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I think you are right on with this statement...and that is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
#1,461
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bleedingTNorange said:
Rob Lewis suggested that Barnes is/was a little over the one and done guys, or possibly worse the guys who thought they were one and dones. Reading between the lines, it sounds like maybe Barnes/Ogden/Lanier attribute some of their shortcoming the last few years at Texas to having guys who were talented but not willing to put in the work or listens being coached. I don't think that means we won't see him target some highly recruited guys, but it sounds like he's gonna make "coachability" a pretty high priority when evaluating a prospect.
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Dortch said something similar on Basilio
 
#1,465
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It will be interesting to see how this class plays out. I have had concerns, and still do, about Barnes' recruiting so far. It seems like Barnes may have found a few under the radar guys who may be on the cusp of blowing up, like Fulkerson, Bone, and maybe Parker, but basketball recruit offer lists and rankings seem to be far more accurate than football recruit offer lists and rankings. None of these guys had huge offer lists and none of these guys are highly ranked as of yet. Butler and a few similar programs (it is a very small list) have thrived on 3* rosters with the occasional 4* and have made it deep into the tournament. I will say that I am pleasantly surprised how the early signing period developed with the addition of Parker but it is way, way too early to think this is a Sweet Sixteen or beyond quality class.
 
#1,466
#1,466
I'm already looking forward to seeing the frosh next year. Looks like a good class to me. Lots of potential.
 
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iKrager said:
He didn't have the talent at neither Clemson or Providence. There were times where Barnes' had incredibly talented teams at Texas, but they couldn't click. I believe Barnes will do fine with less talent.
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Since you're interested in improving your grammatical practices, "either" and "or" always go together, and "neither" and "nor" always go together (can't tell if your post was a typo or not, disregard this post if it was :)).

*He didn't have the talent at either Clemson or Providence.

*He had the talent neither at Clemson nor Providence.

There were times where Barnes' had
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Assuming that's just a typo.

For your grammar! :hi:
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#1,475
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....or if you say anything negative at all despite being positive most of the time then you are a "nega vol"?
 
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