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#877
#877
Dallasbowlin said:
Ah, ok, my apologies. I took it wrong.
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No worries. It's always interesting with the Spring decommits as well as the guys that commit to a program in the summer but don't sign in the Fall. It means they are still up for grabs all the way up until the Spring. So many variables left.

I, too, would love to have both Blackwell-Key and Ado even if they are trending downward. If they end up being projects they are still known quality products and some of our current targets are projects anyway. I do believe Oliver has an effect on the many NC recruits we are targeting instead of the TN guys.

Sometimes it boils down to the fit with the style and the projected potential. I'll trust the staffs' evals for now, but I'm really in a wait and see mode too.
 
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#878
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bleedingTNorange said:
Really, they did last year?

What were the HS rankings for Kasongo and Alexander? Turner is the only one you've got a legitimate case for, Alexander was ranked in the 300's and had 2 P5 offers, yet you're going to say he's as good of a pickup as Fulkerson who's ranked close to the top 150, or even Williams who's top 200 and has multiple P5 offers? That seem like quite the reach to me.

Fulkerson, Bone, Okogie, Johnson and Williams are a heck of a lot better than Phillips, Schofield and Alexander...I'm truly not sure how you can even attempt to argue otherwise.
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Not sure what their rankings were, but I'll take a 6-9 245 athletic post or a 6-10 shot blocker who can run over a 6-5 center and a 6-8 kid who has never played against top competiton. And I wasn't talking about Bone, Okogie and johnson, I was talking about Fulkerson and Williams. I'd take those first three and hold.

As for top 150 and top 200, the only place either of those kids is close to those ranks is 247. Scout has fulkerson at 233 and Williams at 318. Both are no star at all ratings on Rivals and Eric Bossi hadn't even heard of Fulkerson until 3 weeks ago. Neither has a profile on ESPN. Kasongo and Alexander showed up on all of those sites and were 3 stars on mostand both had multiple P5 offers as well.

I'm sure they are both great kids. You know them a lot better than me. But the notion that they are getting ready to burst onto the scene as stars is not credible at this moment.
 
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BruinVol said:
Well no

That's why I want Blackwell over any of these other guys

While you have spent the last few months saying the scouts are wrong and he isn't as good as them
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I've not once said "the scouts are wrong on Blackwell", what are you talking about? The scouts are the ones saying his stock is plummeting, I'm just relaying that message. His ranking his dropped by every service, have you missed that or something? He has dropped nearly 75 spots in rivals rankings over their last few updates, he will almost certainly end up outside the top 100 and closer to 150 when all is said and done...so if the scouts are right, as you say, then why do you want him so bad?
 
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germanicus said:
Alexander showed up on all of those sites and were 3 stars on mostand both had multiple P5 offers as well.

I'm sure they are both great kids. You know them a lot better than me. But the notion that they are getting ready to burst onto the scene as stars is not credible at this moment.
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Compare Alexander and Fulkerson's offer list, while at it compare their 247 ranking and composite rankings, I'll wait...

I've never said either are "getting ready to burst onto the scene as stars"...I've also said continuously Williams is probably the biggest reach of the group, but if you're gonna say Alexander is a better get than Fulkerson that's just down right foolish in every unbiased sense IMO. I've seen Fulkerson listed at 6'9" and 6'10", so it's not as if Alexander is astronomically taller/longer than Fulkerson.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Compare Alexander and Fulkerson's offer list, while at it compare their 247 ranking and composite rankings, I'll wait...
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Dang BTO it's really shameful. In one post it's ridiculing Dallas for going against the scouts and boasting they are rarely wrong.


Then in hundreds of post it's Fulkerson/Williams are much better prospects because the scouts/offers have over valued Blackwell

And then above it's back to the condensing post about how scouts, rankings, and offer sheets once again reign supreme.

I suggest finding a stance and sticking with it or at the very least keeping your mouth shut ridiculing posters for going against the rankings/scouts just like you have been doing for months on end.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Compare Alexander and Fulkerson's offer list, while at it compare their 247 ranking and composite rankings, I'll wait...

I've never said either are "getting ready to burst onto the scene as stars"...I've also said continuously Williams is probably the biggest reach of the group, but if you're gonna say Alexander is a better get than Fulkerson that's just down right foolish in every unbiased sense IMO. I've seen Fulkerson listed at 6'9" and 6'10", so it's not as if Alexander is astronomically taller/longer than Fulkerson.
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So, you're only going to count the one service which has the two ranked in top 200, not the two which doesn't have them ranked at all or the other which has one in the 200s and the other in the 300s? Okay.
 
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#884
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Blackwell is still gonna end up a top 100 or 150 player when it's all said and done, fulk will not, so if scouts are right then we shouldn't even be a paying attention to fulk.
 
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BruinVol said:
Dang BTO it's really shameful. In one post it's ridiculing Dallas for going against the scouts and boasting they are rarely wrong.


Then in hundreds of post it's Fulkerson/Williams are much better prospects because the scouts/offers have over valued Blackwell

And then above it's back to the condensing post about how scouts, rankings, and offer sheets once again reign supreme.

I suggest finding a stance and sticking with it or at the very least keeping your mouth shut ridiculing posters for going against the rankings/scouts just like you have been doing for months on end.
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What I find funny is how much you continue to make things up, I've not said these scouts were wrong, once again nice try.
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
Blackwell is still gonna end up a top 100 or 150 player when it's all said and done, fulk will not, so if scouts are right then we shouldn't even be a paying attention to fulk.
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How do you know Fulk will not? He went from unranked to just barely outside the 150, so you're saying it's impossible for him to jump another 20 spots even though he just jumped about 200?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
What I find funny is how much you continue to make things up, I've not said these scouts were wrong, once again nice try.
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So the scouts that say/rate Blackwell is the better prospect than ALL, every single one, the players we are recruiting are

Correct or wrong??????
 
#895
#895
Just another instance where, rankings don't matter. He could be ranked top 100, wouldn't change the fact he's not gonna do much of anything in the sec.
 
#897
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bleedingTNorange said:
As of 9/26 that is correct, point?
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The point is easy

You argue each side of fence everytime

Can't argue the scouts are always right and ridicule other posters when your entire stance on this class is the staff is making the right choice by passing on the 2 highest rated kids.

It's called being a hypocrite. Again I suggest you take a stance and keep it or stop ridiculing posters like germ and Dallas when they differ on a specific player using the same dang logic you use on other players
 
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BruinVol said:
The point is easy

You argue each side of fence everytime

Can't argue the scouts are always right and ridicule other posters when your entire stance on this class is the staff is making the right choice by passing on the 2 highest rated kids.

It's called being a hypocrite. Again I suggest you take a stance and keep it or stop ridiculing posters like germ and Dallas when they differ on a specific player using the same dang logic you use on other players
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I suggest you practice reading comprehension

Is Blackwell higher rated, no doubt, does that absolutely mean he's a better prospect that Johnson...if you look a little it's not always that simple. Johnson trending up and Blackwell down, so I feel you can make an assumption that's likely to continue.

If you've noticed I've never said scouts ranking of Blackwell is wrong, or that scouts were wrong, what I have said is just answered posters asking why we aren't making him a priority, or why schools have cooled on him, I have never said the scouts are just flat out wrong about him, which is what you're trying to make cut and dry clear when it's not.

I don't ridicule either if they're talking intelligently which Germ does, we all know the other struggles with that. Dallas gives no reason why scouts are wrong on Fulk, it's simply just that he doesn't like the kid, my guess is that it's because Fulk is what Dallas know he will never be. We've yet to see Alexander play a game, so saying he's a better get than a guy with a better ranking and better offer list would seem at the very least a little odd, no?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I suggest you practice reading comprehension

Is Blackwell higher rated, no doubt, does that absolutely mean he's a better prospect that Johnson...if you look a little it's not always that simple. Johnson trending up and Blackwell down, so I feel you can make an assumption that's likely to continue.

If you've noticed I've never said scouts ranking of Blackwell is wrong, or that scouts were wrong, what I have said is just answered posters asking why we aren't making him a priority, or why schools have cooled on him, I have never said the scouts are just flat out wrong about him, which is what you're trying to make cut and dry clear when it's not.
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Sure those others could be better prospect and the scouts could wrong. I completely agree it's possible.

Just like I agree Dallas/germ might he right about their opinions for the same reasons.

You however plan to use whatever side of the argument fits your stance to ridicule others. It's sad and comical all at the same time
 
#900
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bleedingTNorange said:
Compare Alexander and Fulkerson's offer list, while at it compare their 247 ranking and composite rankings, I'll wait...
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Above post was directed at Germ

Compare Blackwell and fulkerson 247 ranking and offer sheet?


Compare Blackwell and Williams 247 ranking and offer sheet?


Compare Blackwell and johnson 247 ranking and offer sheet?


I"ll wait..............






Perfect example of your BS both sides of every damn thing on here. It's sad how pathetic it is
 
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