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Don't start posts very often, but was just looking at the information posted by Freak about classes, players, stars, etc.

From the 2018 class to the 2020 class, UT has signed 39 4-star and 5-star players - of which 4 were 5-star.

I realize that injuries, work-ethic, adjustments to the college-level of play can take time. I also know that stars aren't what they're always cracked up to be - we've had more of our share of "looks like Tarzan - plays like Jane" 5-star busts. But at some point, with a pipeline like this, we should be on a 9-10+ game winning streak each season excluding a bowl win.

So my question is this...does anyone know how many 4/5 star players were on the NC team in '98, SEC champ team in '97 or should've been SEC champ team in '01? I'm trying to get a bearing on where we are based on our history (realizing that quality of coaches, caliber of players and game itself have changed since then).
 
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Services didn't really exist back then for a vast majority of players. It was more a scattered network of local guys trying to compile their state's "blue chip" list.

Just imagine guys trying to get copies of VHS tapes from local high schools that videotaped their games and that is sort of what you got.
 
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Probably more relevant is to follow the "Blue Chip Ratio", a club we should be joining by next cycle if we sign another 2019/2020 quality class. We haven't been in the BCR group since at least they started calculating it and services were widespread (basically since Fulmer left). I would suspect Fulmer's teams were very often > 50% blue chips the way he recruited.

The BCR is a nearly foolproof way to find teams that can win a national championship, or for the most part, even make the playoffs.

As one person put it,
"As most know, the National Championship winner in football since the BCS has had a 50% or above ratio of blue chippers comprising their roster. A blue chipper is a 4 star or above. The only deviation to that was Auburn's win in 2010 and even that is being debated due to a supposed mistake in the rankings of a player."

Blue-Chip Ratio 2019

College Football Playoff could be all Blue-Chip Ratio teams
 
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The game has changed. Big TV has made the rich richer. The SEC is tougher at the top. However, in my opinion, the fact remains that college football is the minor league for the NFL. Top level talent is only interested in doing 3 years and getting a contract. If you are not getting the high 4 and 5 stars that have NFL potential you will not be at the top.
 
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Devo182 said:
Services didn't really exist back then for a vast majority of players. It was more a scattered network of local guys trying to compile their state's "blue chip" list.

Just imagine guys trying to get copies of VHS tapes from local high schools that videotaped their games and that is sort of what you got.
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For years, I'd race to the store to get the Athlon's college football preseason mag....when they only had one team on the cover, and not different cover for each state. I used to consider those gospel on preseason rankings and recruiting evals. In hind sight, they could have been idiots, but they were the only game in town, at that time.
 
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This does not fully answer your question, but it gives you an idea of where we stack up against rivals.
 

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The 98 National Champion team was comprised of several top 5 recruiting classes. Can't remember if we had a #1 class but know it has some #2 and #3 rated classes. Could not tell you how many 4* or 5* though.
 
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I seem to remember that all NC winners of the past X number of years has over 50-55% 4 and 5 stars if I’m not mistaken.
 
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utvols74 said:
Don't start posts very often, but was just looking at the information posted by Freak about classes, players, stars, etc.

From the 2018 class to the 2020 class, UT has signed 39 4-star and 5-star players - of which 4 were 5-star.

I realize that injuries, work-ethic, adjustments to the college-level of play can take time. I also know that stars aren't what they're always cracked up to be - we've had more of our share of "looks like Tarzan - plays like Jane" 5-star busts. But at some point, with a pipeline like this, we should be on a 9-10+ game winning streak each season excluding a bowl win.

So my question is this...does anyone know how many 4/5 star players were on the NC team in '98, SEC champ team in '97 or should've been SEC champ team in '01? I'm trying to get a bearing on where we are based on our history (realizing that quality of coaches, caliber of players and game itself have changed since then).
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Don't remember about the "Star" Rating, but CPF was signing anywhere from 5-10 of the TOP 100 PLAYERS In the Country!!; in the Mid 90"s; with 17 (Or More) "Can't miss" Players in every class. Pruitt is doing pretty well; (Especially having to deal with bama, uga, and Uf) FULMER could get most anyone he wanted (Except MEMPHIS----Logan Young) But we may never see the kind of recruiting CPF was able to do, again., at least not until bama loses Saban. Bama (And uga) is doing what CPF did in the 1990's early 2000's.
 
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JohnWardForever said:
Don't remember about the "Star" Rating, but CPF was signing anywhere from 5-10 of the TOP 100 PLAYERS In the Country!!; in the Mid 90"s; with 17 (Or More) "Can't miss" Players in every class. Pruitt is doing pretty well; (Especially having to deal with bama, uga, and Uf) FULMER could get most anyone he wanted (Except MEMPHIS----Logan Young) But we may never see the kind of recruiting CPF was able to do, again., at least not until bama loses Saban. Bama (And uga) is doing what CPF did in the 1990's early 2000's.
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Well said. Considering the conference we are in, right now we are recruiting at about an 8-9 wins a year level. The 2020 class was really solid, but if we seriously want to be in the hunt for the SEC title, Pruitt and his staff need to take it to another level.
 
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