Recruiting Classes 2006-2011

[volboy81]

Fulmer had "several" busts in his last yrs & Kiffins ONE year had numerous big busts. Dooley is having to clean all that up & I see progress. Remember Ala was ready to fire Bryant in the late 60s, Ga almost got rid of Dooley in the late 70s & VT almost ditched Beamer after 3-4 yrs. theyre all HofF coaches or will be there soon.....and so is Fulmer & Majors (as a player & should be in as a coach also). Patience, boys, patience!

 

[EZE]

USC and UF both lost a whole bunch of signees over the same period. It happens . A good coach brings in classes better than 8- 12 in his conference to make up for talent shortcomings.

And he does it overnight, in one class of 50 recruits, too. Right?

 

[VolBeef88]

So what? If you asked Dooley right now if he knew you, he would say "NO".

Awwww 2iron and his trusty straw man arguement. Where did I say I know him? I've met him a few times at fundraisers. But nice straw man.
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[VolBeef88]

We both lost at home. We were both in the game through 3 quarters.

ATM didn't quit. Dooleys team quit AGAIN. Huge different.
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[g8terh8ter_eric]

This is is so stupid. He didn't beat us our O beat us. Especially with 3 turnovers. They scored 10 pts so no he didn't beat us in that game. Heck his TD drive should have been ended with the fumble on the sidlne we recovered. The whole world saw that we did but the refs didn't. So the refs beat us more than he did.

Also he was a QB in HS so technically he was a QB turned WR turned QB. Just sayin...

(I hate beating a died horse here but this is one of the negavols go-to lines and it needs to be put to rest.)

Kentucky passed the ball an entire 6 times. It's not like we didn't know what they were going to do, our defense just couldn't stop it, and over 200 yards rushing later, they sustained enough of their drives to score more points that we did, and embarrass us. I mean, how do you not know that they are going to run, when a WR is their QB?? It's baffling.

 

[VolBeef88]

i didnt see the quit in the Georgia game... people and teams change... did you see quit in the Georgia game? what about Akron when we were tied at the half.. the team didnt quit. we will see if we quit in the State game next week... i doubt it. I believe the team has finally understood the term quitting

I didn't say we quit against UGA and why in the hell were we tied with Akron in the 1st place? But the point is that in year 3 his team has quit and did so on the highest of all stages!!!
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[tennesseeduke]

I posted this another thread but wanted to post one on its own.

How many people have actually went back and reviewed our recruiting classes over the past 6 years and compare it to who has actually stayed on the team and contributed much less made an impact to the program and team? link is below.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Tennessee Commitments

from 2006 to 2011 i show 148 recruits with 42 playing on the field a significant amount of time. thats 28%!!! how can you expect in year three of a new coach to be competing with anyone when only a quarter of all your players over the past six years have actually played in more than mop up duty? since 2010 I see right at 20 players contributing on the field...so right at half of those 42 were 2010 and 2011.....

just my opinion.


Edit: go and actually look before just throwing other teams and coaches.. out... do some dang research... "facts don't lie"

FYI... there is no class left on the team from 2009 class, they all left after the one on the west coast hosed us! Those guys would all be seniors this year! How many teams around the country have lost an entire recruiting class??? CDD deserves 5 years to rebuild! Period!

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[tennesseeduke]

I didn't say we quit against UGA and why in the hell were we tied with Akron in the 1st place? But the point is that in year 3 his team has quit and did so on the highest of all stages!!!
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You look at a blip and consider it the fact. What are you talking about quit? Those young men battled till the end and almost pulled off a huge upset last Saturday and have done so every weekend and will continue to do so. Please don't post again until your head is screwed on correctly genius.

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Tennesseeduke

 

[chanwise25]

USC and UF both lost a whole bunch of signees over the same period. It happens . A good coach brings in classes better than 8- 12 in his conference to make up for talent shortcomings.

great comparison... solid... you really hit a homerun there... :no:

 

[chanwise25]

OH my god at some point people has to just stop making excuses for the guy and call it what it is. Dooley's a bad coach. Why don't you find supporting evidence to show why is a good coach and instead of why he's not a bad coach.

And is getting rid of Dooley really that bad? We get rid of him and get someone better in here. We all know the whole intent of hiring was to buffer the damage done by Kiffin. Let's just call it what it is.

It's called giving him a chance. We don't even know how this year will play out. Go check out how Saban did his first head coaching venture... You would have been screaming for his head too and now you would look like the idiot you are. If you don't like him, you don't like him. He inherited a program in bad shape and is building it back up, if we can just keep the idiots at bay long enough to let this happen.

 

[chanwise25]

Oh look. How sweet, another excuse thread for Dooley.
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They are called facts, some people are just too dumb to comprehend them... It's ok though the world needs simple minded idiots too. Now introducing internet bad ass VolBeef88... somebody find this kid a my buddy doll so he's not so lonely.

 

[WhiteRhino]

Honestly Kiffin and Muschamp are still winning with Carroll and Meyer's players...not a valid comparison.

Compare the player recruited by both of those schools and say how that is relevant to our situation..... go ahead, I'll wait.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Why you got to post the same crap everywhere? How about you ignore the thread if you don't like the contents?

He asks a valid question and you automatically jump down his throat? Give us some numbers that prove he can coach instead of constantly searching for some to make excuses.

 

[VolBeef88]

You look at a blip and consider it the fact. What are you talking about quit? Those young men battled till the end and almost pulled off a huge upset last Saturday and have done so every weekend and will continue to do so. Please don't post again until your head is screwed on correctly genius.

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Tennesseeduke

Reading comp isn't your strong point is it. I didn't say they quit against UGA but they damned sure quit against UF THIS year which is DD's 3rd year. And if you think we played well against UGA then you don't know football. How many yards did we give up? How many turnovers? How many points did we give up? We looked like a damned WAC team.
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[VolBeef88]

They are called facts, some people are just too dumb to comprehend them... It's ok though the world needs simple minded idiots too. Now introducing internet bad ass VolBeef88... somebody find this kid a my buddy doll so he's not so lonely.

Facts? Really? Haha, Here are some facts for you hero. Your God, Saint Dooley has NEVER beaten a good team in his entire career as a head coach. He's the 1st coach at UT to lose back to back seasons since indoor plumbing was invented. He has just 1. I repeat just 1 winning season in his entire career as a head coach. His teams are still quitting on him in year 3 at UT! And the list goes on and on but all you worshipers can do is find excuses for him. What a damned joke.
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[brando1083]

Facts? Really? Haha, Here are some facts for you hero. Your God, Saint Dooley has NEVER beaten a good team in his entire career as a head coach. He's the 1st coach at UT to lose back to back seasons since indoor plumbing was invented. He has just 1. I repeat just 1 winning season in his entire career as a head coach. His teams are still quitting on him in year 3 at UT! And the list goes on and on but all you worshipers can do is find excuses for him. What a damned joke.
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Can you find one coach who has had winning seasons when you use only 28% of your recruiting classes combined over the past 6 years? Can you not realize that last year was the first time since 2007 we have actually used 10 players from any recruiting class.. 10..... Those 10 were not world beaters coming out of high school either.. so we have to hope they are coached up to compete with the SEC... new flash...a coach can only do so much with what they are given. So now we are in year 3 sitting 3-2 with two loses coming to #10 and #5...yes the team did give up and crumble under pressure in the first lose...but not in the second.. so that would be considered progress right? This is the first year for this coaching staff to actually have more 4* players than 3* and 2* players. yes we have a 2* player playing right now. and the majority are Dooley recruited players.. the majority are in year two of the program.... and we haven't lost to anyone ranked lower than #10

 

[UTFanForLife]

He asks a valid question and you automatically jump down his throat? Give us some numbers that prove he can coach instead of constantly searching for some to make excuses.

So the thread is about recruiting, showing facts as to why our roster has looked like it does. One can even look to see how it is improving. Then he comes in and says we should stop looking at them and show something that proves he can coach. So we should just stop talking about it cause you all said so? If you don't like the topic, stay out. He has the right to come say what he wants, but I can't tell him to keep his crap to himself? Seems hypocritical to me. We want to talk about the classes from 2006-2011, I believe those are facts, you call them excuses. That's fine, but some of us like to talk about things without all the fire Dooley crap.

 

[finn]

I posted this another thread but wanted to post one on its own.

How many people have actually went back and reviewed our recruiting classes over the past 6 years and compare it to who has actually stayed on the team and contributed much less made an impact to the program and team? link is below.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Tennessee Commitments

from 2006 to 2011 i show 148 recruits with 42 playing on the field a significant amount of time. thats 28%!!! how can you expect in year three of a new coach to be competing with anyone when only a quarter of all your players over the past six years have actually played in more than mop up duty? since 2010 I see right at 20 players contributing on the field...so right at half of those 42 were 2010 and 2011.....

just my opinion.


Edit: go and actually look before just throwing other teams and coaches.. out... do some dang research... "facts don't lie"

Great info but you are missing the point. A good chunk of the Fire CDD crew don't really care about the facts or reality. I don't know if he is the right guy or not and certainly winning a couple big games would help his cause but your research shows he basically took over a steaming turd. It does take time and trying to contrast UT's situation to every other school is a fool's errand as they are all different and unique. See OSU and Oscar Meyer. He took over a program that played in a BCS bowl the year before and also plays in a crap conference. We just happen to blow during the golden age of the SEC.

 

[RangerVol]

Honestly Kiffin and Muschamp are still winning with Carroll and Meyer's players...not a valid comparison.

Not it's not- much better talent on those rosters when Lame and Muschamp got there. Fulmer and Lame emptied the cubbard. Even Shula had decent recruiting classes at Bama before Saban and Saban struggled out of the gates. Much different scenarios than to what Dooley got.

 

[armchair]

There is huge attrition at EVERY major football program. In every signing class, at every major program, you can expect ///AT LEAST HALF// of the class to contribute little or nothing to the team. Guys flunk out, guys don't go to class, guys commit crimes, guys get injured and guys quit the team or transfer. Some classes are worse than others, of course.

That said, there is no question that UT has to recruit better. When started going downhill, obviously, when Fulmer stopped being able to recruit--and when he hired Sanders. Dooley looks like a good recruiter--but the jury is out, and here's the thing: It's hard to bring in four-star guys when you are losing the big SEC games. Prospects see this, and the four- and five-star guys go to bama, florida and georgia, leaving us with the lesser prospects. It takes great coaching to break this cycle: We have to find ways to beat one or two of the big boys and develop some real recruiting momentum.

 

[VolsDeep]

ok let me break it down further.... 2009 22 recruits...4 were impact players... 2010 27 recruits...8 making an impact.. 2011 27 recruits...10 making impact. so out of 76 recruits... 22 are making an impact... where does your depth come in... where does your leadership from those years come in.... kiffin's class was good at the time but they are all gone....only 4 play right now....

Kiffin's 2009 class is gone, but we should thank him for Bray, Jacques Smith, Jawuan James, Corey Miller, and a few others that arrived on campus hours before Kiffin bolted..

 

[vols-1]

It's called giving him a chance. We don't even know how this year will play out. Go check out how Saban did his first head coaching venture... You would have been screaming for his head too and now you would look like the idiot you are. If you don't like him, you don't like him. He inherited a program in bad shape and is building it back up, if we can just keep the idiots at bay long enough to let this happen.

Saban has never had a losing season In 17 years of Head coaching! Stop with mother pucking Saban comparisons. What in the hell is it with you people?

 

[KoachKletus]

Saban has never had a losing season In 17 years of Head coaching! Stop with mother pucking Saban comparisons. What in the hell is it with you people?

What is it with US people? Hmm,,perhaps we are a bit more patient, maybe a LOT more understanding. Maybe, just maybe, we recognize progress in things other than win at all cost. What is it with YOU people that fail to recognize that CDD is partly into his 3rd year of rebuilding a football program that WAS in complete disarray?

 

[FEARinSEC]

FYI... there is no class left on the team from 2009 class, they all left after the one on the west coast hosed us! Those guys would all be seniors this year! How many teams around the country have lost an entire recruiting class??? CDD deserves 5 years to rebuild! Period!

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Tennesseeduke

I'm not exactly sure what you were getting at, but there are several left. Teague, Eric Gordon, Zach Rogers, Daniel Hood.

 

[midtnvol2]

I posted this another thread but wanted to post one on its own.

How many people have actually went back and reviewed our recruiting classes over the past 6 years and compare it to who has actually stayed on the team and contributed much less made an impact to the program and team? link is below.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Tennessee Commitments

from 2006 to 2011 i show 148 recruits with 42 playing on the field a significant amount of time. thats 28%!!! how can you expect in year three of a new coach to be competing with anyone when only a quarter of all your players over the past six years have actually played in more than mop up duty? since 2010 I see right at 20 players contributing on the field...so right at half of those 42 were 2010 and 2011.....

just my opinion.


Edit: go and actually look before just throwing other teams and coaches.. out... do some dang research... "facts don't lie"

Math question for the op, your stating that your count starts in 2006 class, why? Those players left two years ago. Should you not count from 2008 class to 2011 to be accurate?