Recruiting Classes 2006-2011

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I posted this another thread but wanted to post one on its own.

How many people have actually went back and reviewed our recruiting classes over the past 6 years and compare it to who has actually stayed on the team and contributed much less made an impact to the program and team? link is below.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Tennessee Commitments

from 2006 to 2011 i show 148 recruits with 42 playing on the field a significant amount of time. thats 28%!!! how can you expect in year three of a new coach to be competing with anyone when only a quarter of all your players over the past six years have actually played in more than mop up duty? since 2010 I see right at 20 players contributing on the field...so right at half of those 42 were 2010 and 2011.....

just my opinion.


Edit: go and actually look before just throwing other teams and coaches.. out... do some dang research... "facts don't lie"
 
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brando1083 said:
I posted this another thread but wanted to post one on its own.

How many people have actually went back and reviewed our recruiting classes over the past 6 years and compare it to who has actually stayed on the team and contributed much less made an impact to the program and team? link is below.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Tennessee Commitments

from 2006 to 2011 i show 148 recruits with 42 playing on the field a significant amount of time. thats 28%!!! how can you expect in year three of a new coach to be competing with anyone when only a quarter of all your players over the past six years have actually played in more than mop up duty? since 2010 I see right at 20 players contributing on the field...so right at half of those 42 were 2010 and 2011.....

just my opinion.
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We got to recruit better!
 
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USC and UF both lost a whole bunch of signees over the same period. It happens . A good coach brings in classes better than 8- 12 in his conference to make up for talent shortcomings.
 
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k-town_king said:
USC and UF both lost a whole bunch of signees over the same period. It happens . A good coach brings in classes better than 8- 12 in his conference to make up for talent shortcomings.
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once again.. how is that the current coaching staff fault??? i can without looking almost guarantee that neither had the amount we had over that same period.
 
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gardners_51609 said:
Honestly Kiffin and Muschamp are still winning with Carroll and Meyer's players...not a valid comparison.
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what does that matter.. i am not comparing to other schools.. did you even go look at our players... their rankings and who actually played..... no...you are just assuming... go look and see.
 
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brando1083 said:
but how can you put that on the current coached who have only had two full recruiting classes??
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Maybe he don't know? Someone get on the orange phone and call Dools! We figured it out. We got to recruit better!
 
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I was posting that in response to what k town king said....simmer down now brando!

And if you would read between the lines I was agreeing with you and you didn't mention either school in the OP, so I guess you are a little jumpy today aren't you.
 
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I was posting that in response to what k town king said....simmer down now brando!

And if you would read between the lines I was agreeing with you and you didn't mention either school in the OP, so I guess you are a little jumpy today aren't you.
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my bad.... yes I am.... just getting tired of everyone comparing to other schools and saying we weren't so "low"... if people will go and research.. they will be surprised with who has actually played.. there are probably more... "who the heck is that recruit" than "dang he played really well for us"
 
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UT had attrition just as USC and UF have over the last couple of years.

THe difference is that we had too many busts as well. All you need to look at is the nfl draft over the last two seasons to see that. Heck, watch this years draft. Will we have a senior drafted? I guess JUCO transfer Rivera will be the only one and he was recruited by DD.

That tells you that when DD got here, he had not one, not two but three bad recruiting classes back to back to back. And on top of that he was given two weeks to close out his first class.

Yeah, I'd say the situation at UT was different than UF and USC.
 
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brando1083 said:
I posted this another thread but wanted to post one on its own.

How many people have actually went back and reviewed our recruiting classes over the past 6 years and compare it to who has actually stayed on the team and contributed much less made an impact to the program and team? link is below.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Tennessee Commitments

from 2006 to 2011 i show 148 recruits with 42 playing on the field a significant amount of time. thats 28%!!! how can you expect in year three of a new coach to be competing with anyone when only a quarter of all your players over the past six years have actually played in more than mop up duty? since 2010 I see right at 20 players contributing on the field...so right at half of those 42 were 2010 and 2011.....

just my opinion.


Edit: go and actually look before just throwing other teams and coaches.. out... do some dang research... "facts done lie"
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I saw Casey Kelly's name in the 208 class. I saw him get his first Major League win as a pitcher a few weeks ago on ESPN...
 
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brando1083 said:
my bad.... yes I am.... just getting tired of everyone comparing to other schools and saying we weren't so "low"... if people will go and research.. they will be surprised with who has actually played.. there are probably more... "who the heck is that recruit" than "dang he played really well for us"
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Yes I agree with you Brando, what a lot people don't understand in the attrition UT has faced, that no other team within respectability had stability jerked away from them twice in two years. We lost Fulmer after ~19 years and Kiffin came and tore down everything Fulmer had and tore down what he built and then Dooley comes in with half a roster full of below average talent...

I get what you are saying and it frustrates me too, and all the people wanting to take stability away again for the third time in five years is crazy...
 
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Yes I agree with you Brando, what a lot people don't understand in the attrition UT has faced, that no other team within respectability had stability jerked away from them twice in two years. We lost Fulmer after ~19 years and Kiffin came and tore down everything Fulmer had and tore down what he built and then Dooley comes in with half a roster full of below average talent...

I get what you are saying and it frustrates me too, and all the people wanting to take stability away again for the third time in five years is crazy...
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totally agree...starting over with coaches is the last thing this team needs to do.
 
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k-town_king said:
USC and UF both lost a whole bunch of signees over the same period. It happens . A good coach brings in classes better than 8- 12 in his conference to make up for talent shortcomings.
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Both teams come from states with very talented hs prospects. Also usc has is the home of the 5 star. I mean between FL and usc aren't good comparisons at all.
 
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And UF and USC combined for 4 or 5 NC's since 2003. And Carroll and Meyer provided that, and they did not have a Kiffin come in and take away the stability and then they show up and have to rebuild 3 or 4 recruiting classes. Kiffin is still winning on offense with Carrol's recruits and Muschamp's defense is full of Meyer's commitments.
 
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So its just as bad at UF and USC? Surely you realize which states those schools are in. Sure, they lost some players, but your school lies in a top 4 recruiting hot bed state. You have to be really trying hard to mess up, to bring in classes outside the top 10 at those schools.
 
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brando1083 said:
I posted this another thread but wanted to post one on its own.

How many people have actually went back and reviewed our recruiting classes over the past 6 years and compare it to who has actually stayed on the team and contributed much less made an impact to the program and team? link is below.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2006 Tennessee Commitments

from 2006 to 2011 i show 148 recruits with 42 playing on the field a significant amount of time. thats 28%!!! how can you expect in year three of a new coach to be competing with anyone when only a quarter of all your players over the past six years have actually played in more than mop up duty? since 2010 I see right at 20 players contributing on the field...so right at half of those 42 were 2010 and 2011.....

just my opinion.


Edit: go and actually look before just throwing other teams and coaches.. out... do some dang research... "facts don't lie"
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OH my god at some point people has to just stop making excuses for the guy and call it what it is. Dooley's a bad coach. Why don't you find supporting evidence to show why is a good coach and instead of why he's not a bad coach.

And is getting rid of Dooley really that bad? We get rid of him and get someone better in here. We all know the whole intent of hiring was to buffer the damage done by Kiffin. Let's just call it what it is.
 
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AstonRoyal said:
OH my god at some point people has to just stop making excuses for the guy and call it what it is. Dooley's a bad coach. Why don't you find supporting evidence to show why is a good coach and instead of why he's not a bad coach.

And is getting rid of Dooley really that bad? We get rid of him and get someone better in here. We all know the whole intent of hiring was to buffer the damage done by Kiffin. Let's just call it what it is.
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Why you got to post the same crap everywhere? How about you ignore the thread if you don't like the contents?
 
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AstonRoyal said:
OH my god at some point people has to just stop making excuses for the guy and call it what it is. Dooley's a bad coach. Why don't you find supporting evidence to show why is a good coach and instead of why he's not a bad coach.

And is getting rid of Dooley really that bad? We get rid of him and get someone better in here. We all know the whole intent of hiring was to buffer the damage done by Kiffin. Let's just call it what it is.
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I never said he was a good coach or a bad coach but you can't just blindly say he is bad if you dont know where this program came from....people like you are lazy and only look at the current situation.. you dont actually see where the situation came from and how it has improved or not improved. and from the looks of it.. we are improving with recruits actually playing... 20 of the 42 are in the 2010-2011 class.
 
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