Recruiting class average rankings

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xpsyclonex2002

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Found this article talking about the recruiting classes of the top 25 teams this year. Found it interesting that Arkansas and S. Carolina both finished as top 10 teams with 31st and 16th ranked recruiting classes when averaged over the last 5 years. My point is that if we have good coaching, we can develope talent and still compete regardless of whether we finish with a top ten class. Not looking to justify mediocrity, just making a point that top recruiting classes without good coaching are useless. Georgia and Florida are prime examples.

How nation's top teams fared in recruiting - College Football - Rivals.com
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Found this article talking about the recruiting classes of the top 25 teams this year. Found it interesting that Arkansas and S. Carolina both finished as top 10 teams with 31st and 16th ranked recruiting classes when averaged over the last 5 years. My point is that if we have good coaching, we can develope talent and still compete regardless of whether we finish with a top ten class. Not looking to justify mediocrity, just making a point that top recruiting classes without good coaching are useless. Georgia and Florida are prime examples.

How nation's top teams fared in recruiting - College Football - Rivals.com
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Excellent points, however, I doubt any of those have recently started from near zero like we've had to. Also, look at the classes Texas has had last couple of years yet they have underachieved. I think we will see quite an improvement this year with better talent, more experience, and also better coaching. I think the S & C coach's, McKeefery, work will also show up this year. I think we'll see a decent running game this year. (At least I'm hoping so--LOL). I don't see how it could be much worse.
 
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I think it says the star rankings are bs and that its the scouts that can recognize talent and good coaches coaching them up
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I think it says the star rankings are bs and that its the scouts that can recognize talent and good coaches coaching them up
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Yaaaaarrrrr, matie. Stars be much like granting parlay: tis more a guideline than hard and fast rule.

Denarius Moore & Adrian Foster... both 3 star prospects out of HS, just to name a few recent examples. Our list of bust 5 stars too long and too painful.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I think it says the star rankings are bs and that its the scouts that can recognize talent and good coaches coaching them up
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I think it's more stability while also recruiting playmakers in key positions, with an upper class that actually contributes... Something we haven't seen in a while.. Our recruiting has been fine the last 2/3 cycles.. We just need enough stability to keep those guys into their junior/senior years.. The fact that our starters AND backups are mostly underclass men is what has killed us.. Simple as that.. Good recruiting and stability win ball games.. Good coaching is also important.
 
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OuterBanksVol said:
Yaaaaarrrrr, matie. Stars be much like granting parlay: tis more a guideline than hard and fast rule.

Denarius Moore & Adrian Foster... both 3 star prospects out of HS, just to name a few recent examples. Our list of bust 5 stars too long and too painful.
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They stars are given on potential not just talent if I'm not mistaken. Its not a perfect sytem by anymeans and with thousands of kids playing ball across the country some are bound to slip through the crack. Sad thruth is if a kid can afford and has the oppertunity to go to big camps he's going to get more stars if they feel like he 'could' become something not so nuch what they have done.

We have had our fair share of 5star bust but we've also had eric berry end up being an all time great here recently.
 
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Yep look at Virginia Tech and how many 4 and 5 star players they have had in the last 15 years or more, and yet they produce a quality football team year in and year out, you have to have the coaching!!! This star thing has really blown wide open in the last 15 or so years and it is based on so many variables that it is unreal.. It is all in the eye of the beholder, look at Georgia how they are ranked no. 6 by ESPN and we are 21st, yet total role reversal in Rivals, are the players better because ESPN says they are or has Rivals got the better method??? I never worry about stars, if the kid fits the system you run and he has good potential and you got good coaching he can be a great player whether he is a 5 or 4 or even a 3 star player period!!! :twocents:
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
Found this article talking about the recruiting classes of the top 25 teams this year. Found it interesting that Arkansas and S. Carolina both finished as top 10 teams with 31st and 16th ranked recruiting classes when averaged over the last 5 years. My point is that if we have good coaching, we can develope talent and still compete regardless of whether we finish with a top ten class. Not looking to justify mediocrity, just making a point that top recruiting classes without good coaching are useless. Georgia and Florida are prime examples.

How nation's top teams fared in recruiting - College Football - Rivals.com
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I think it also means that coaches are better at evaluating talent than the recruiting services.
 
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Arkansas and Va Tech are prime examples of the value og solid coaching. Petrino's classes are very similar to Nutt's when he coached there - full of 3 star talent sprinkled with a few 4 stars, but the results on the field is much different. Va Tech never finishes in the top 10 in recruiting but they consistently put a good product on the field because of Beamer.....imo
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what was our avg the past 5 years?

also, some of these other schools with the less impressive classes also play in less impressive conferences...

[anticipates ridiculous discussion]
 
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What I've read about the logic is that a 5 star is ready to play, a four start needs a year to get ready and so on. Seems like Dooley should have a team ready to win a minimum of eight based on last couple of years recruiting and easy schedule.
 
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Question is a three star playing for Boise State as valuable as a three star in the SEC.Because if Boise is loaded wth 3s and 4s they can't even compete in SEC
 
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tenn fever said:
Question is a three star playing for Boise State as valuable as a three star in the SEC.Because if Boise is loaded wth 3s and 4s they can't even compete in SEC
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say what you will about Boise, but I believe that they would finished 3rd in the SEC this year If they played here. I get your point, but lets not dismiss what they can do.
 
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I wanted to post this as a new thread but I guess I need a 100 post first, which seems rather severe considering I won't reach 100 posts within a year. Maybe someone else can do it for me so that if Perronu googles his name he may see this thread.

But Brian Perroni is a great example of why Rivals recruiting rankings don't hold water.

He is an analyst for Rivals.com based out of Texas. Back when I still subscribed to Rivals he came on the Tenn site to argue his side of why Santos was only a 3 star. well one day after Santos flips to Texas lo and behold here is Perroni saying Santos is very close to a 5 star.

Rivals is an incredibly poorly run site.
 
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xpsyclonex2002 said:
say what you will about Boise, but I believe that they would finished 3rd in the SEC this year If they played here. I get your point, but lets not dismiss what they can do.
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Boise has the potential to beat any team any week but in the SEC they would have to be ready every week. You don't get the chance to go up by 35 and rest starters in the 3rd and 4th quaters. Your lines are going against the biggest and fastest players in the country and that wears on the body. Right now they play around 3 tough games a season and those are usually spread out. SEC schedule will have them playing double that and some of those would be back to back. Look at UTs Nov. this season, Boises loses 3 of those if not all 4.
 
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jortfreeTN said:
Boise has the potential to beat any team any week but in the SEC they would have to be ready every week. You don't get the chance to go up by 35 and rest starters in the 3rd and 4th quaters. Your lines are going against the biggest and fastest players in the country and that wears on the body. Right now they play around 3 tough games a season and those are usually spread out. SEC schedule will have them playing double that and some of those would be back to back. Look at UTs Nov. this season, Boises loses 3 of those if not all 4.
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I hope you mean UT's Oct...
 
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