Recruiting Attack

#51
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volbeast33 said:
Oh good grief....then their would be bad karma all over the country....Zo should have nutted up and handled it....He was paid over a million dollars to deal with it, I think he will be alright.
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Yeah, I'd say so.
 
#52
#52
Is this a real thread? I thought the whole silly conspiracy thing was just an elaborate post to make everyone laugh and relax a little.

Who in the entire sport of college basketball, especially the programs with NC coaches and Top 5 recruiting classes, would even bother to submarine a program with a coach who hasn't even coached a single game yet and whose recruiting doesn't even threaten most of the better mid-majors?

Yeah, the blue-bloods are spending their time trying to figure out how to keep UT down rather than work on their own Final Four teams and blue-chip recruiting. :eek:k:

Regarding Clarke, I still haven't figured out how making the decision to decommit an hour after the story broke can possibly mean he had already made up his mind before the story broke. To my way of thinking, the fact that he decommitted an hour after the story broke is proof positive that the story had everything to do with it; if it didn't outright make him change his mind, it definitely nudged him closer to changing it... blue-chippers don't typically like, nor do they have to accept situations that are becoming uncertain and unstable. But apparently because he only had an hour, the theory is that didn't give him enough time to discuss the decision with his parents? That's ridiculous. He obviously doesn't have to discuss these decisions with his parents; because he made the decision to commit to UT in the first place against his parents' wishes that he attend VT.

As for "I honestly believe that, seeing the return of Tennessee greatness on the football field, some enemy of the Vols is trying to stop the same thing from happening in basketball."; what Tennessee greatness are we talking about?

I can promise you my Vol alum cousin doesn't consider a 4-5 (1-4) record with the biggest win coming in overtime against a 4-4 USC team "great".

I'm not trying to rub anything in because our team hasn't been great lately either; but surely no old-school Vols consider a march towards .500 greatness... Kentucky and Vandy fans don't even get excited about .500.

Given those facts, I think the answers to the questions still remaining about Tyndall's involvement and Clarke's decommitment are much simpler than fears on the part of championship caliber programs that a UT team with a losing record and another picked to finish next to last in their own conference are suddenly a threat they need to address with rule and law breaking.
 
#53
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G8R8U2 said:
Is this a real thread? I thought the whole silly conspiracy thing was just an elaborate post to make everyone laugh and relax a little.

Who in the entire sport of college basketball, especially the programs with NC coaches and Top 5 recruiting classes, would even bother to submarine a program with a coach who hasn't even coached a single game yet and whose recruiting doesn't even threaten most of the better mid-majors?

Yeah, the blue-bloods are spending their time trying to figure out how to keep UT down rather than work on their own Final Four teams and blue-chip recruiting. :eek:k:

Regarding Clarke, I still haven't figured out how making the decision to decommit an hour after the story broke can possibly mean he had already made up his mind before the story broke. To my way of thinking, the fact that he decommitted an hour after the story broke is proof positive that the story had everything to do with it; if it didn't outright make him change his mind, it definitely nudged him closer to changing it... blue-chippers don't typically like, nor do they have to accept situations that are becoming uncertain and unstable. But apparently because he only had an hour, the theory is that didn't give him enough time to discuss the decision with his parents? That's ridiculous. He obviously doesn't have to discuss these decisions with his parents; because he made the decision to commit to UT in the first place against his parents' wishes that he attend VT.

As for "I honestly believe that, seeing the return of Tennessee greatness on the football field, some enemy of the Vols is trying to stop the same thing from happening in basketball."; what Tennessee greatness are we talking about?

I can promise you my Vol alum cousin doesn't consider a 4-5 (1-4) record with the biggest win coming in overtime against a 4-4 USC team "great".

I'm not trying to rub anything in because our team hasn't been great lately either; but surely no old-school Vols consider a march towards .500 greatness... Kentucky and Vandy fans don't even get excited about .500.

Given those facts, I think the answers to the questions still remaining about Tyndall's involvement and Clarke's decommitment are much simpler than fears on the part of championship caliber programs that a UT team with a losing record and another picked to finish next to last in their own conference are suddenly a threat they need to address with rule and law breaking.
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Feel better? Cause the only post I read claiming conspiracy was SD. And well....
 
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vols 30 said:
SD, I believe you are mostly correct on your post, but to say Clarke leaving has nothing to do with this investigation is ridiculous. You believe Clarke's father is telling the truth. What do you expect him to say?
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I agree. I think Clarke left because the investigation.
 
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Seriously, does anyone think CDT and Southern Miss are the only schools perpetrating the whole prop 48 scheme as though they'd become genius at fooling the NCAA? If people wanna get real about it, they'd find out about almost every school in the country doing the same thing! And it's true, until that loan is paid off what violations have occurred? On the other hand, if loans have been paid for by boosters, then bye bye Donnie Knox.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
This is my opinion of this entire out of the blue unfolding scenario. Some person or persons with an agenda has been able to directly attack Donnie Tyndall's first basketball recruiting class and the University of Tennessee with unsubstantiated allegations and both universities and Coach Tyndall have been put in a position where they cannot comment on the situation for months. The timing is incredible. What has really struck me is the viciousness of the attack! There are reporters out there who are saying the immediate solution is for Tennessee to fire Coach Tyndall before it gets any worse based on nothing but allegations. They have immediately tied the decision of Chris Clarke to move closer to home so his family can watch him play as a result of the "breaking news". This, even though, his decision was announced one hour after the "story" broke. Virginia Tech was in the final list he had. He lives in Virginia and his dad said they had been discussing it as a family ever since he committed.
Let me ask you to use a little common sense here. Coach T has stated numerous times that his goal was to win a national championship here at Tennessee. He has worked his way into his "destination job" in a program where he has the resources to do just that. Evidently, that has alarmed some unknown entity, and with the big money involved, it has been decided to put a stop to it. In the Morehead State incident these were his comments. "I certainly learned from it. I did. It was a growing experience. My athletic director and president and I worked hand in hand with the NCAA. I'm one of those guys that I don't shy away from responsibility. I learned from it, I grew from it and I certainly never expect to go through it again." Donnie Tyndall is a smart man and a basketball genius. I ask you, does it even make any sense that he would jeopardize his career goal in life with another violation of coaching ethics, even in the ludicrous Prop 48 guidelines?
I honestly believe that, seeing the return of Tennessee greatness on the football field, some enemy of the Vols is trying to stop the same thing from happening in basketball. The University of Tennessee needs to make sure that does not happen. It really reminds me of political attacks that have no basis in reality but get the job done. I think we need to give the head coach of the University of Tennessee the benefit of the doubt and not let him be convicted before even having a trial. In the meantime, our recruiting suffers and the attack has been successful even if nothing comes of it, which I believe is what will happen. I believe in Coach T and what he is trying to build in our basketball program, brick by brick!
It is very interesting that his other two recruits are sticking by him and after the initial flood of stories nothing new has been added in the past 24-48 hours. VolNation should do the same!
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Uh Oh! The "unknown entity" has been enraged. Watch out, it will be after you next. LOL....

You know, could be the simple answer IS the answer. Maybe, just maybe, "broke the rules, got caught, and soon will be gone from here". Temporary set back as I see it. If the allegations are true, good to catch it now before Tennessee's program is corrupted. We don't need another lying cheating coach. One is enough.
 
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SmokeyLives said:
Seriously, does anyone think CDT and Southern Miss are the only schools perpetrating the whole prop 48 scheme as though they'd become genius at fooling the NCAA? If people wanna get real about it, they'd find out about almost every school in the country doing the same thing! And it's true, until that loan is paid off what violations have occurred? On the other hand, if loans have been paid for by boosters, then bye bye Donnie Knox.
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What if DT had no knowledge of the boosters? Best thing for DT is to admit nothing.
 
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#60
a number one ranking for about 20 minutes and an elite 8 is as dominant as Tennessee's been. I doubt someone is secretly trying to destroy the program because of coach speak at his presser about winning a national championship.
 
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piano said:
Uh Oh! The "unknown entity" has been enraged. Watch out, it will be after you next. LOL....

You know, could be the simple answer IS the answer. Maybe, just maybe, "broke the rules, got caught, and soon will be gone from here". Temporary set back as I see it. If the allegations are true, good to catch it now before Tennessee's program is corrupted. We don't need another lying cheating coach. One is enough.
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bingo!
 
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#65
Went the way of the Marlin Lane story?
 
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This story is dead. 4 days and no new reporting. Vol spokesman Jimmy Stanton said on day 1 that no pending investigations were mentioned by NCAA in vetting process. Coach T said today everything will be fine.
 
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Before I get attacked with "no way" I know this wont happen but is it possible Clarke flipped to vt until everything was clear the flips back to us?
 
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Dallasbowlin said:
Before I get attacked with "no way" I know this wont happen but is it possible Clarke flipped to vt until everything was clear the flips back to us?
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And if so, would anyone actually want him at that point?

I guess they would, but I'd have some reservations about a future teammate who can't make and stick with a commitment. JMO...
 
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VolNExile said:
And if so, would anyone actually want him at that point?

I guess they would, but I'd have some reservations about a future teammate who can't make and stick with a commitment. JMO...
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Solid,never thought of it that way
 
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madbamahater said:
College basketball might be the dirtiest sport around. Controlled by just a hand full. The Dukes, Kentuckies, North Carolinas, Kansas and a few others.

The whole Pearl thing almost seems like a set up from the get go by Ohio State. That story broke essentially after UT beat Oh State in the tourny. What about the timing of that?

Plus you had people out to get Pearl for all the past stuff he was involved in. Coaching is a fraternity and many hated Pearl for years after what he did way back in the day.

I wouldn't put it past any of those big schools just rolling it out there like throwing a dog bone. I'm not really a conspiracy theorist type. But college basketball is like the mafia
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There's probably some folks around who don't like Pearl, but nobody really had to do anything to nail him. The bozo allowed himself to be photographed with the recruits. In his own house no less. Probably had a burger flipper in his hand and that cheesy grin going. Guess Bruce hadn't gotten the memo about the internet at that point.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
It is very interesting that his other two recruits are sticking by him and after the initial flood of stories nothing new has been added in the past 24-48 hours. VolNation should do the same!
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Shembari Phillips and Admiral Schofield both signed with Tennessee yesterday. They had no concerns after talking with Coach T.
 
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