Records of teams that you wanted their coach

#77
#77
Bobo0101 said:
Go ahead and add our beloved Gruden to this list. His first year isn't looking very good either.
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Gruden likely won’t last long with the Raiders. He’s currently 2-9. Probably finishes 3-13 if he’s lucky. He will get another year to turn them around or he’s gone...
 
#79
#79
Also on the subject of Gruden with him signing a 10 year/100 million contract regardless of record do they keep him all 10 years or will he probably get fired in 2-3 years??
 
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#81
BeardedVol said:
So your first two choices were coaches who wouldn't have taken the UT job for any amount of money, but you want to call people out for wanting one of the coaches that you listed?
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No , I want to call out the people who are in meltdown mode, ready to go get the next coach because we only improved by 1 game over last year in YEAR 1 .
So all you Mullen lovers .
4-8 miss st 2008
5-7 miss st 2009 Mullen Year 1
And don’t even suggest his situation was worse. There hasn’t been a circus sideshow equal to UT last year in Miss St history
 
#82
#82
We needed a coach with a proven record of making chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. Peterson has that record. Patterson has that record. Leech has that record. Patrino has that record. Franklin has that record. Heck, look at programs like App St. Some coaches just know how to get the best out of the players they get, not the players everyone wants. Our program has been a dumpster fire for a decade. What made anyone think that we were going to bring in an unproven coach and rebuild a program from its ashes while competing in the SEC?
But we're stuck with this now. Buckle up. We may very well be the next SMU, Army, and Pitt, once vaunted programs relegated to the dustbin of football history.
 
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#83
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Colorado has an opening. I'm sure there'll be a couple of others. You should submit your resume if you think it's so easy.
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You know what...I just may. Thanks for the encouragement and your support. Sometimes it takes another VolNation member to give you a kick in the pants to get you chasing your dreams. A big, hearty thank you to you kind sir!
 
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Pruitt, Brohm and Scott were widely seen as the "up and comers" most likely to make good HCs. I think it can be argued that, considering the circumstances, he did reasonably well his first year with what he was given and in comparison to the other 2.

Mike Leech is a solid coach but no SEC experience = real shock on the field and recruiting trail. Things are just way way way tougher here.

Mullen was the only one who could be said to have been a solid get, with his SEC experience in building up a crap program. Unfortunately, as has been mentioned, Florida was going to pay whatever it took for him after they lost Kelly. We were not really prepared to pay anything at all really. For those of you who might have forgotten, all this happened in the middle of one of the most embarrassing coaching searches in the nation, that resulted in the AD (and probably the Chancellor) being fired.

So all said and done, we were lucky that Fulmer grabbed up the AD slot and got what was seen as a rising star. I doubt Pruitt would have come here without Phil and God knows what dregs we would have been left with otherwise. Time will tell if Pruitt can bring us back to glory land but I must say I feel more confident that his journeyman, "focus on basics" approach to it will produce better long term results than the last guy.
 
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#86
#86
volfannbama said:
This one will be different guys, I promise.

For historic perspective, could someone post the past records of Mullen, Patterson, Leach, Cutcliff, Gundy and Brohm and how those compare to previous years of Pruitt as a head coach?
Not sure why wanting proven coach is considered a bad thing but okay. You know the op knew it was a dumb one when left Mullen off the list. Theres nothing like trying to cherry picking stats to help prove a point knowing someone will catch it in seconds.
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I left Mullen off because he had a good year. Guess the post went over your head!
Not debating who is or would be the best
coach!
All listed had below average years,
People ready to fire Pruitt ! So I ask should all them others be fired or is it just a UT thing, because some are in denial and think we are loaded with talent.
 
#89
#89
GVol1966 said:
Yeah sure, and nobody wanted any of the others or John Gruden
Washington st 2011. 4- wins
Washington st 2012. 3 wins ( leach’s first year)
UT 2017 4 wins
UT 2018 5 wins ( Pruit’s 1st year)
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For the love of Pete it’s Jon
 
#90
#90
Chris Petersen is the best coach in CFB not named Saban. I think there are some outside influences into him staying put at Washington but if we ever have to move on from Pruitt I would love to go after Petersen.

I also think Pruitt gets 4 more years to put together a competitive team.
 
#91
#91
GVol1966 said:
No , I want to call out the people who are in meltdown mode, ready to go get the next coach because we only improved by 1 game over last year in YEAR 1 .
So all you Mullen lovers .
4-8 miss st 2008
5-7 miss st 2009 Mullen Year 1
And don’t even suggest his situation was worse. There hasn’t been a circus sideshow equal to UT last year in Miss St history
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You are basically reinforcing other people's argument here. I don't think the issue is that people are arguing 2009 Mullen is any better than 2018 Pruitt. But a 2018 Mullen certainly seems to be better than a 2018 Pruitt. Could Pruitt become a great head coach? Sure. But can your fanbase wait through the many years it takes to learn on the job? I don't know.

The issue is that people wanted a proven head coach, which is something really hard to come by. Mullen would not have been a good fit at UF in 2009. He is now, after having 9 years of head coaching experience in the SEC west.
 
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#92
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GVol1966 said:
I left Mullen off because he had a good year. Guess the post went over your head!
Not debating who is or would be the best
coach!
All listed had below average years,
People ready to fire Pruitt ! So I ask should all them others be fired or is it just a UT thing, because some are in denial and think we are loaded with talent.
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Can you name a single poster on here, besided the idiot that started the "cut our loses and fire pruitt" thread that are actively calling for Pruitt to be fired that didnt want him in the first place? The reply to that thread alone should tell you that there are maybe two or three people that want pruitt fired and everyone else things they are stupid.
And no the post didnt go over my head, you left Mullen off because it goes against whatever point you are trying to prove, just like leaving Leach off.
 
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Gandalf said:
Pruitt, Brohm and Scott were widely seen as the "up and comers" most likely to make good HCs. I think it can be argued that, considering the circumstances, he did reasonably well his first year with what he was given and in comparison to the other 2.

Mike Leech is a solid coach but no SEC experience = real shock on the field and recruiting trail. Things are just way way way tougher here.

Mullen was the only one who could be said to have been a solid get, with his SEC experience in building up a crap program. Unfortunately, as has been mentioned, Florida was going to pay whatever it took for him after they lost Kelly. We were not really prepared to pay anything at all really. For those of you who might have forgotten, all this happened in the middle of one of the most embarrassing coaching searches in the nation, that resulted in the AD (and probably the Chancellor) being fired.

So all said and done, we were lucky that Fulmer grabbed up the AD slot and got what was seen as a rising star. I doubt Pruitt would have come here without Phil and God knows what dregs we would have been left with otherwise. Time will tell if Pruitt can bring us back to glory land but I must say I feel more confident that his journeyman, "focus on basics" approach to it will produce better long term results than the last guy.
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Was pruitt really seen as an up and comer? Ive never heard his name mentioned with any other job opening ever, not even smaller schools.
 
#96
#96
GVol1966 said:
Yeah sure, and nobody wanted any of the others or John Gruden
Washington st 2011. 4- wins
Washington st 2012. 3 wins ( leach’s first year)
UT 2017 4 wins
UT 2018 5 wins ( Pruit’s 1st year)
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Leach took Washington state to the 2013 New Mexico Bowl. You think Pruitt will take us to a bowl next year? I hope so
 
#98
#98
I pulled for Mullen and Brohm.. Wasnt sure about Leach but would have liked his press conferences
 
#99
#99
volfannbama said:
Was pruitt really seen as an up and comer? Ive never heard his name mentioned with any other job opening ever, not even smaller schools.
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Exactly. Pruitt needed a few more years as an assistant imo, but it is what is and he will be here for at least 2 more years unless something really really dumb happens. (which this is TN so I wouldn't be too surprised)
 
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#100
#100
GVol1966 said:
Wait what? Leach won 3 games in year 3,
And he is a great coach, but Pruit has to win 8 in year 2 for you to feel confident.
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Leach took over a team that had gone 9 wins and 40 loses in the previous 4 years under
Paul Wulff. Pruitt took over with a team that had 29 wins and 20 loses in the previous 4 years.
 
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