Rebuilding year

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
It's true. Gone are the days when we can say "We're UT. We're a historic and blue chip team."

These days coaches ask how much money are you going to give the program so I can recruit and hire my staff? LSU got Kiffin by promising a ton of money for NIL and facilities and coaches.

If we aren't going to pay big boy NIL money for players, we can't expect big boy coaches to want to come here only to get fired because they can't win with lesser talent.
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Brother...........just 3 quotes ago you argued to me that "Danny can't open the purse strings!!!!" and "Where did I think the $$$ was coming from".............lmao......I think you just like to argue.

I've stated the fact that we need to open the coffers with our record intake this year ($304 million) and bring in some talent. NCAA be damned........
 
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NATHAN05 said:
Brother...........just 3 quotes ago you argued to me that "Danny can't open the purse strings!!!!" and "Where did I think the $$$ was coming from".............lmao......I think you just like to argue.

I've stated the fact that we need to open the coffers with our record intake this year ($304 million) and bring in some talent. NCAA be damned........
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That's fine if you want to go back on probation but that $20.6M is part of a FEDERAL COURT DECISION. We're not going to win in court against the NCAA if we don't abide by the House Settlement. We would be going against the courts themselves but sure........
 
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NATHAN05 said:
In keeping with the theme of "state of college football" I'm not sure how to feel this year. I think CH has played his poker hand very well, he just keeps losing to better hands on the flop.

I think the Miami, LSU, Texas, and Tech $$$ and disregard for rules is absolutely messing with everyone badly.........especially SEC/BIG XXXIIL teams who are used to splitting all the blue chips. Danny White is going to have to loosen the purse strings. Who would have thought it'd have been this way even just 3 or 4 years ago?

As far as personnel, ON PAPER, Nico should be a Jr. this year. ON PAPER/ 4 years ago, we thought we had the proper specialists with adequate backups in the wings.

So, I'm not sure how to feel about this season with all that is going on in CFB and with unforeseen changes in personnel (which are a catalyst from the state of CFB ultimately). I'm hoping for a good showing and a playoff berth, but I'm realistic. Unless there is a complete meltdown, I'll give CH a pass if we don't make the playoffs this year, still think he's what we need right now and I'm tired of playing n the carousel.
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What rules? And only two of those teams went further than us
 
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DarkVolder said:
One of my felllow collegues suggested that this upcoming season was a rebuilding year for us in 2026. I disagree yes we got a new DC and a new QB but a coach going into his sixth season especially coming off a disappointing five loss season last year shouldn’t have anymore rebuilding and wasted seasons at this point in his coaching career. Thoughts?
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Just wait till year 8. When he gets all his players in here
 
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Swiftybaby said:
What rules? And only two of those teams went further than us
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Exactly 🤣🤣🤣........there was a collective agreement of $20.6 million per school for NIL distribution......unfortunately theres a handful of schools (or at least the football programs) who don't care.......also unfortunately theyre piecing together NY Yankee teams vs Oakland A's teams (everyone else).
 
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NATHAN05 said:
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣........there was a collective agreement of $20.6 million per school for NIL distribution......unfortunately theres a handful of schools (or at least the football programs) who don't care.......also unfortunately theyre piecing together NY Yankee teams vs Oakland A's teams (everyone else).
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You're full of it if you think schools are routinely violating the House Settlement. You're just unable to accept that UT doesn't have billionaire support like other schools.

You don't have a shred of proof that any team violates the House Settlement.
 
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ftsandersvol said:
So, our university has decided just being mid-to-low tier is perfectly acceptable? We might as well have just hired Mark Stoop.
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We simply don't have TX or Ohio State or aTm or Miami booster money. We just don't.

In the end, that makes a difference.

What separates the P4 from other conferences? Talent.
Why don't non-P4 recruit elite talent from the portal?
Money.

It eventually separates out the schools. A school like Northwestern in the B1G isn't going to emphasize their collective/NIL and isn't going to recruit like Ohio State.

Tennessee originally had a very strong collective and got burned and also the TX schools woke up their very rich donor base. At this point, we're behind and lack the rich donor base.
 
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NATHAN05 said:
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣........there was a collective agreement of $20.6 million per school for NIL distribution......unfortunately theres a handful of schools (or at least the football programs) who don't care.......also unfortunately theyre piecing together NY Yankee teams vs Oakland A's teams (everyone else).
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Pete, you're a good egg!
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
We simply don't have TX or Ohio State or aTm or Miami booster money. We just don't.

In the end, that makes a difference.

What separates the P4 from other conferences? Talent.
Why don't non-P4 recruit elite talent from the portal?
Money.

It eventually separates out the schools. A school like Northwestern in the B1G isn't going to emphasize their collective/NIL and isn't going to recruit like Ohio State.

Tennessee originally had a very strong collective and got burned and also the TX schools woke up their very rich donor base. At this point, we're behind and lack the rich donor base.
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We are still in the overall investment range where making the 12 team playoff is a reasonable barometer of the success of the season....
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
We are still in the overall investment range where making the 12 team playoff is a reasonable barometer of the success of the season....
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Unfortunately, other teams, like Cuban suddenly coming out of nowhere to support Indiana, are finding more support.

I believe it was LWSVOL here who suggested we were having issues because donors are getting weary of guys leaving and such.

We're still in the top 15, barely, in NIL and Heupel is a good coach but to stay elite requires the kind of commitment Ohio State and Bama have shown to increasing NIL as the market increases.

We were elite, at first, but others have taken the money game up a notch and we're not seeming to meet them.
 
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Rebuilding year is an antiquated term. Sure, you are going to have to replace outgoing players. But instead of reliance on second string players to fill the spots, it is now more of making a list, checking it twice, and knowing how much cash you can spend in the transfer portal. Plus figuring out how many of your current roster is heading out the door. Because that door swings both ways.

So when you come back to games the next season, you will be looking at a helluva lotta guys who wore numbers last year being guys who wore that number for somebody else. Oh there will be some familiar faces. But you might be cheering for a guy, and some football nerd student majoring in God knows what correcting you, and telling you to keep up with current events.

Now, if your coach can retool year after year in that system? You got a damn good chance of being in the playoffs every year. Until he has a nervous breakdown, and you pick up somebody else to manage the nonsense. Me? I'm too old for this 5h1t.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Unfortunately, other teams, like Cuban suddenly coming out of nowhere to support Indiana, are finding more support.

I believe it was LWSVOL here who suggested we were having issues because donors are getting weary of guys leaving and such.

We're still in the top 15, barely, in NIL and Heupel is a good coach but to stay elite requires the kind of commitment Ohio State and Bama have shown to increasing NIL as the market increases.

We were elite, at first, but others have taken the money game up a notch and we're not seeming to meet them.
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Ive seen everywhere from 8-15 so yeah, that lower end of playoff or missing but having an argument for inclusion (like ND, Texas, and Vandy) should be the baseline....

If we go 9-3 next year and barely miss, I wont say we missed expectations. If we go 6-6.....
 
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I think people will be upset this season because they expect 9-3 or better. I don’t see those wins on the schedule. I think it’s 6-6 or 7-5 best case. The real question is will they be able to build on it. Will we see improvement through the season and the best at the end? The rebuilding would be the best outcome.
 
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Here's the real question assuming status-quo for NIL/Portal for the next 5+ years.... (perhaps a stretch to assume no changes but here goes)...

Which current college football coaches can "evolve" into this era and which will simply not let go of the old paradigms and fade away? I can see a whole new (younger) class of college football coaches that can both develop on the fly, recruit like no body's business, manage a NIL budget, be a very good in-game manager, manage media and pre-game scheme with the best of them. I believe the coaching shuffle of last season is a prediction of the storm that is coming.
 
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DarkVolder said:
One of my felllow collegues suggested that this upcoming season was a rebuilding year for us in 2026. I disagree yes we got a new DC and a new QB but a coach going into his sixth season especially coming off a disappointing five loss season last year shouldn’t have anymore rebuilding and wasted seasons at this point in his coaching career. Thoughts?
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as long as there is NIL and free portal, rebuilding is likely every year for 90% of the programs..

52 new players and a new defensive coaching staff = rebuild
 
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DarkVolder said:
One of my felllow collegues suggested that this upcoming season was a rebuilding year for us in 2026. I disagree yes we got a new DC and a new QB but a coach going into his sixth season especially coming off a disappointing five loss season last year shouldn’t have anymore rebuilding and wasted seasons at this point in his coaching career. Thoughts?
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most every year is a rebuilding year now, with transfer portal. But I do think this seems to be the tail end of getting QBs in the barn and having them have experience grown up in vol system. It’s just different now. I think we are going to be better than the experts think.
 
#75
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BigOrangeMojo said:
At no point in Y6 with our budget should there be a rebuilding year. It's a crutch.

This is the 4th "rebuilding" year since 2021 (2021, 2023, 2025, and now 2026).

Either Heup is the guy to navigate this new landscape long-term or he's not. Continously offering up a crutch does nobody any favors...
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I’d say he’s not rebuilding. His 5 year combined wins are 45…from what I can tell, best 5 year run since 2000-2004 with 46 wins. I think the bigger question is when will we hit another level…at least once every 3-4 years. With the way teams are configured now, plus 9 sec games, unless you are in an elite level like uga, most every team will have to reconcile with a 7-5 season being ok every now and then…just my opinion.
 
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