Reasons Why Tennessee Could Beat Every Team Next Year

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King Webbsticles said:
'10 OL = '12 OL

That's why the regression last year is worrisome. We lost no one, added more talent and somehow got worse.


2 of the LB's were TrFr which caused some missed assignments. And our DBs were terrible as well. But no fear, we have a baseball player teaching them so all is well.
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It's called a Soph slump for the Oline. They will be fine.

The dbs looked terrible because we had to load the box to stop the run. Look at the LSU game for example. We played a 5-3 double eagle the entire first half, of course we struggled with the pass.
 
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northknoxvol said:
You do remember the last game of last season dont you? Dooley is like the captain of the Titanic. It was supposed to be unsinkable but yet it sunk!
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Well Phil, it would not hurt if you dropped a couple of pounds....just sayin'



How about you being a big man and telling us to just forget about this last payment on your buyout? You already got plenty of cash
 
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99gator said:
i have to admit, you have some of the most positive, upbeat fan bases in the country.

i don't know if it's pride, love, fanaticism, stupidity or insanity. but, some of you are the most intrepid folks around.

only members of this fan base could come off the worst season in decades, a terrible season ending loss, and have a coach that has never won jack squat and think......

yep, we're goin' undefeated. start a bcs ticket and hotel fund. we're going to miami baby!
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I would say the majority is skeptical, and rightfully so.
 
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Vol8188 said:
It's called a Soph slump for the Oline. They will be fine.

The dbs looked terrible because we had to load the box to stop the run. Look at the LSU game for example. We played a 5-3 double eagle the entire first half, of course we struggled with the pass.
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No, it's called poor coaching and scheme for the OL.

We struggled in the secondary because we didn't have a lot of talent. They weren't good enough to handle players one-on-one for a majority of the time.
 
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The only ones I feel like he's wrong on are the ones where he says someone will overlook us. I don't see us being overlooked after we beat Florida. I think if we get that win, regardless of how good or bad Florida is, we will get some attention.

That being said, the only team I feel like we can't beat is Alabama. Everyone else, since there's no Arky or LSU is beatable in my opinion. We'll see. Maybe Sal holds the key to beating bama.
 
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King Webbsticles said:
No, it's called poor coaching and scheme for the OL.

We struggled in the secondary because we didn't have a lot of talent. They weren't good enough to handle players one-on-one for a majority of the time.
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If you believe your secondary has to handle players one on one for a majority of the time, then you will never be pleased with your secondary's talent level. Our coverage problem was that we had to keep an 8th defender in the box almost all of the time, do to our lack of talent on the dline and youth at lb.

As far as your scheme argument, I have still never understand what problems people had with our olines scheme. What was so different about our scheme and everyone else in America's scheme? The coach may suck, IDK enough about the guy to speak on his behalf or against him.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If you believe your secondary has to handle players one on one for a majority of the time, then you will never be pleased with your secondary's talent level. Our coverage problem was that we had to keep an 8th defender in the box almost all of the time, do to our lack of talent on the dline and youth at lb.

As far as your scheme argument, I have still never understand what problems people had with our olines scheme. What was so different about our scheme and everyone else in America's scheme? The coach may suck, IDK enough about the guy to speak on his behalf or against him.
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- Your first paragraph agreed with me. I never said expected them too. Quite the opposite, actually.

- It is widely known that we had changed schemes before last season. We went to a sprint-draw blocking scheme that backfired horrendously. It was, as I've argued, a very stupid idea from our coaching staff to make this switch.
 
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King Webbsticles said:
- Your first paragraph agreed with me. I never said expected them too. Quite the opposite, actually.

- It is widely known that we had changed schemes before last season. We went to a sprint-draw blocking scheme that backfired horrendously. It was, as I've argued, a very stupid idea from our coaching staff to make this switch.
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I've heard another user claim we went to a "sprint-draw" scheme, but I've heard of noone who can tell me what a sprint-draw scheme is. I wouldn't go as far as saying that because yourself and one other person claim we went to a sprint-draw scheme (which everything I've found online about sprint draw appears to be a two back slow isolation scheme), that it is in anyway a well known fact.

If it was so dumb to go to a sprint draw scheme, then please describe to me what a sprint draw scheme was and why it was dumb?
 
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Vol8188 said:
I've heard another user claim we went to a "sprint-draw" scheme, but I've heard of noone who can tell me what a sprint-draw scheme is. I wouldn't go as far as saying that because yourself and one other person claim we went to a sprint-draw scheme (which everything I've found online about sprint draw appears to be a two back slow isolation scheme), that it is in anyway a well known fact.

If it was so dumb to go to a sprint draw scheme, then please describe to me what a sprint draw scheme was and why it was dumb?
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I'm no expert on sprint draw. I think sjt18 and I had this debate a week ago. From what he tells me, it is a running style based off of fear of the passing game. The OL doesn't pick and road-grate, but rather they sit back a bit to sell pass before engaging for the run.

It was dumb because we ran the ball fine the year before and we had the exact same personnel and even added more talent. There was no reason to switch running styles, IMO.
 
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bamawriter said:
Other than the QB and receiver positions, I'm really not sure that UT is a lot more talented now than they were in '09. I'm also not sure that UT wasn't better coached in '09 than they are now.
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I'm not sure Bamer-folk are sure of anything other than family reunions are sure-fire opportunities to meet their future mates. Now that's for sure! :)

I've been following Vols recruiting since the mid nineties and 2012 will field the deepest and most talented team UT has had since the 2001 season
 
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#139
King Webbsticles said:
I'm no expert on sprint draw. I think sjt18 and I had this debate a week ago. From what he tells me, it is a running style based off of fear of the passing game. The OL doesn't pick and road-grate, but rather they sit back a bit to sell pass before engaging for the run.

It was dumb because we ran the ball fine the year before and we had the exact same personnel and even added more talent. There was no reason to switch running styles, IMO.
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I highly, highly, doubt that we geared our entire running game around this one draw play, and I would assume that we stuck to alot of inside and outside zone schemes that we've been running since Chaney arrived and because those are the schemes Saban runs at AL. We all know how much Dooley tries to model his program after Sabans (although I would have to see the games again to verify that's we're running because I was too drunk and depressed to remeber most of em).

But if we really did base our entire run offense off of a draw play, then yeah that was poor coaching.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I highly, highly, doubt that we geared our entire running game around this one draw play, and I would assume that we stuck to alot of inside and outside zone schemes that we've been running since Chaney arrived and because those are the schemes Saban runs at AL. We all know how much Dooley tries to model his program after Sabans (although I would have to see the games again to verify that's we're running because I was too drunk and depressed to remeber most of em).

But if we really did base our entire run offense off of a draw play, then yeah that was poor coaching.
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It isn't based off of one play, it is a style. Ohio State runs a sprint draw attack. It is a style to capitalize on the over-aggressiveness of DL who think we are going to throw all day. Unfortunately, when our passing game went to ****, we didn't have anything to fall back on.

I doubt Dooley has instructed CJC to do anything. Dooley isn't an X-and-O's coach, and this is Chaney's offense. How good Chaney's offense is is for another day/debate.

-Weren't we all.
 
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King Webbsticles said:
It isn't based off of one play, it is a style. Ohio State runs a sprint draw attack. It is a style to capitalize on the over-aggressiveness of DL who think we are going to throw all day. Unfortunately, when our passing game went to ****, we didn't have anything to fall back on.

I doubt Dooley has instructed CJC to do anything. Dooley isn't an X-and-O's coach, and this is Chaney's offense. How good Chaney's offense is is for another day/debate.

-Weren't we all.
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But Dooley is a Saban guy, so I'm sure if he had his pick we would be running inside zone all day.

With that said, you could be right.
 
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Vol8188 said:
But Dooley is a Saban guy, so I'm sure if he had his pick we would be running inside zone all day.

With that said, you could be right.
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Probably. Unfortunately, that isn't what Chaney likes. I personally don't care either way. As long as it puts points on the board.
 
#143
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I think Tennessee can win 9 regular season games. Bammer, UGA, and USC are the games we will probably lose. And on this "sprint-draw" scheme for the OL, the remedy to that sickness is smash-mouth, in your face, man vs man, power blocking. Run the damn ball to set up the pass. Go back to a more traditional Pro-Style Offense with a few shotgun sets and some deep balls for Hunter and Rogers to go up and get. I just pray that we can find a RB with the strength and agility we need to stay in the game and get 1st downs. Dooley will be fine and earn some fan respect this season..I hope anyways.
 
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You need a pretty fast and/or agile tailback for the zone blocking scheme to be effective. In the zone, you only need to get a hand on your man for even a second or two just to let the back have the second or two he needs to find a way past him. Zone works well if you're set up for it, but are we really set for that? I dont think we have a back that has stood out in the last few years..hopefully this year will be different ;)
 
#146
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VOLorNuttin said:
I'm not sure Bamer-folk are sure of anything other than family reunions are sure-fire opportunities to meet their future mates. Now that's for sure! :)

I've been following Vols recruiting since the mid nineties and 2012 will field the deepest and most talented team UT has had since the 2001 season
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I do not believe you at all. I am sorry but when this team loses 5 or 6 games this year, please come back and tell us how it is possible with all the talent and depth that UT has.
 
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DresdenVol said:
You need a pretty fast and/or agile tailback for the zone blocking scheme to be effective. In the zone, you only need to get a hand on your man for even a second or two just to let the back have the second or two he needs to find a way past him. Zone works well if you're set up for it, but are we really set for that? I dont think we have a back that has stood out in the last few years..hopefully this year will be different ;)
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Not true in the slightest.

Do you think T. Davis, Maurice Clarrett, or the two fullbacks that they had run for over 1,000 when Alex Gibbs was in Denver, do you think any of them were known for their speed? Most zone teams want a bigger back. Look at Trent Richardson, the man is a beast. I believe it was said that he was the strongest man on Alabama's team. Or look at the back at USCjr the mans like 220. Even Mark Ingram for Alabama was in noway known for his speed.

Same thing with Arian Foster or the other back they have in Houston, or Wisconsin when they had Ron Dayne. You want a power back not a speed back to run the zone.

Since FL didn't have a power back under Urban Meyer, that's one reason they ran al ot of the bash play. It's like zone read except you make the RB go opposite the play to hold the backside DE, then the QB runs inside zone or hands to the RB depending on what the backside DE does.
 
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#149
Wylo said:
I do not believe you at all. I am sorry but when this team loses 5 or 6 games this year, please come back and tell us how it is possible with all the talent and depth that UT has.
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Had Hunter and Bray stayed healthy, you know damn well this past season would have been completely different. We very likely beat UF, UGA, USCjr, and KY. The Ark game would be a toss up, and only LSU + Bama would've been probable losses. Try again.
 
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DresdenVol said:
You need a pretty fast and/or agile tailback for the zone blocking scheme to be effective. In the zone, you only need to get a hand on your man for even a second or two just to let the back have the second or two he needs to find a way past him. Zone works well if you're set up for it, but are we really set for that? I dont think we have a back that has stood out in the last few years..hopefully this year will be different ;)
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Arian Foster disagrees.
 
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