Reasons to dislike Pruitt

[GoodmanVol]

We should restart this thread. Have everyone list one reason only and you can’t post a duplicate.

Would probably still reach #176

 

[rocky top buzz]

Point taken, but I like the odds of hiring off the top of everybody's list rather than the bottom. Saban didn't come off the bargain table. Dooley, Jones, and Pruitt did.

Sure, but my point is Saban inherited a pretty stable program from Mike Shula. Saban wouldn't have considered that job had it been in the shape left behind by Jones or Pruitt, or Dooley's lack of offensive linemen.

 

[sjt18]

Sure, but my point is Saban inherited a pretty stable program from Mike Shula. Saban wouldn't have considered that job had it been in the shape left behind by Jones or Pruitt, or Dooley's lack of offensive linemen.

Bama wasn't stable when Saban went there. Shula left a mess. But Saban had already won at LSU and used that to sign great players. He ran a lot of the older guys off and won early with young players.

 

[Chad F]

I used to think we had finally hired someone who was actually good at coaching when Jeremy Pruitt was put on our sideline. But I struggle to identify any individual or position group who really got better or that he got the most out of during his tenure. The O-Line is a great example. Seemed to have tons of talent but never really became the wrecking crew that most thought they could be.

Everyone else seemed to just spin their wheels in place or regress. Hell, we couldn’t defend a slant pattern. And we consistently got smashed in the second half of games as opposing coaches made adjustments and we ... well, we just didn’t seem to know what to do.

Add to all of this the apparent overbearing jerk of a personality and the cheating and you have a recipe for disaster. I didn’t think it was possible to screw up a hire worse than our AD did with Butch Jones, but they proved me wrong.

NEVER hire anyone associated with Alabama ever again. Period.

 

[UTNoFear]

Just to be clear as I stated before, I'm not a CJP fan, he left our University in a pickle and I for one after all that has come to light am glad he's gone. Now that being said, I just don't see how a fanbase can turn on someone after the season he had in 2019. Preseason top 25 ranking in the polls and the future looked bright but soon dulled. Let's just hope CJH can right the ship.... it's going to be exciting but still holding opinion until I see results as I think we all are.

Not a troll just wanted opinions and I got them. As goodmanvol said I'm sure if we all posted one reason we as a fan base disliked him I'm sure we could reach 176!!!!!! GBO

 

[peaygolf]

MTSU

ALABAMA



enough said

 

[rocky top buzz]

Bama wasn't stable when Saban went there. Shula left a mess. But Saban had already won at LSU and used that to sign great players. He ran a lot of the older guys off and won early with young players.

They were in better shape than Tennessee was in for any other hire other than the Kiffen hire. The textbook scandal had no impact on bama moving forward and bama had gone to bowl games consistently with Shula even in his last year.

I'll say until I die, UT could have avoided all of this had they simply named an interim coach for the 2010 season. Could have named Chaney the interim for 2010 and kept the recruiting class together and provided stability. That would have given the interim a season to "audition" without making a long term coaching commitment. If it becomes obvious the interim wasn't going to work after a few games, you get a jump start on finding the 2011 coach. Instead they make a press decision to hire Dooley who was woefully unprepared for the job and with that hire/contract you have to give them several seasons.

 

[arkyvol]

They were in better shape than Tennessee was in for any other hire other than the Kiffen hire. The textbook scandal had no impact on bama moving forward and bama had gone to bowl games consistently with Shula even in his last year.

I'll say until I die, UT could have avoided all of this had they simply named an interim coach for the 2010 season. Could have named Chaney the interim for 2010 and kept the recruiting class together and provided stability. That would have given the interim a season to "audition" without making a long term coaching commitment. If it becomes obvious the interim wasn't going to work after a few games, you get a jump start on finding the 2011 coach. Instead they make a press decision to hire Dooley who was woefully unprepared for the job and with that hire/contract you have to give them several seasons.

I'll say this for ole orange pants--he certainly lived down to his resume. It's hard to say which hire was worse, him or Todd Raleigh. Thanks again, Mike Hamilton.

 

[arkyvol]

I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't expect much out of the Heupel hire. If Tennessee ever does hire another coach worth a damn, one of the impediments won't be having to follow a legend in the Saban, Rockne, Bryant mode. If Tony Vitello coached football, the Vols wouldn't have touched him with a ten foot pole.

 

[hog88]

I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't expect much out of the Heupel hire. If Tennessee ever does hire another coach worth a damn, one of the impediments won't be having to follow a legend in the Saban, Rockne, Bryant mode. If Tony Vitello coached football, the Vols wouldn't have touched him with a ten foot pole.

I expect CJH to be slightly above average, get us to a consistent 7-8 regular season wins. I don't see him winning championships.

 

[sjt18]

I expect CJH to be slightly above average, get us to a consistent 7-8 regular season wins. I don't see him winning championships.

I expect pretty much the opposite. I think he'll be one of the two extremes. Either a shocking success or also unable to beat the UK's of the world.

 

[hog88]

I expect pretty much the opposite. I think he'll be one of the two extremes. Either a shocking success or also unable to beat the UK's of the world.

Let's hope for the shocking success but I see him being run out of town in 4-5 seasons.

 

[sjt18]

They were in better shape than Tennessee was in for any other hire other than the Kiffen hire. The textbook scandal had no impact on bama moving forward and bama had gone to bowl games consistently with Shula even in his last year.

I don't think I'm picking nits when I point out that you said they were "pretty stable". They weren't. Maybe better than UT has been following one or more of the last 3 coaches.... I'm not sure you could ever prove that.

But they weren't "stable".

I'll say until I die, UT could have avoided all of this had they simply named an interim coach for the 2010 season. Could have named Chaney the interim for 2010 and kept the recruiting class together and provided stability. That would have given the interim a season to "audition" without making a long term coaching commitment. If it becomes obvious the interim wasn't going to work after a few games, you get a jump start on finding the 2011 coach. Instead they make a press decision to hire Dooley who was woefully unprepared for the job and with that hire/contract you have to give them several seasons.

I'm not sure that makes much of a difference. It is unlikely that UT and the AD then would have brought someone in appreciably better than Dooley. The string of coaches would have been different but the people choosing those coaches would have been the same... and operated under the same financial considerations.

My hope is the AD White is the key to turn things around. I think he is more important that Heupel or whoever else might have been chosen at this particular time.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

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[Tnphil]

Reasons to like Pruitt

1. No longer here.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Infractions
3-7 Final Year

But then I look at the expectations after the 8 win 2019 season, and then he dealt with more covid cases than any school in the east, and have to ask... if we had a healthy team in 2020 what would the record have been? The infractions and cause was enough to fire him and I'm not an apologist by any means but say we won 7-8 games in 20 would the fans have jumped his back as they did? Apples and oranges but personally I liked CJP and as a former college player would have loved to have played for him but that's me. But the amount of hate the fans had for him amazed me. The man gave us an 8-5 season and the first 2 losses were hard to swallow that year but he righted the ship. If we would have won those two game.... 10-3. But yeah he couldn't coach say you.

I know my opinion will not be popular and I hope CJH will right the ship but it amazes me how this fan base went from lauding him to hating him. COVID19 killed his team. On another note the man didn't forget how to coach and for the arm chairs here that never played or coached CFB, why judge him the way you do.

I like CJH and hope he turns things around but I ask myself how long will this fan base give him before they turn their back on him the way they did Pruitt?

Funny, fan base LOVED him in 2019 but in 2020, hated his guts. Personally I think our fan base is our worse enemy........... FLAME AWAY!

On a side note, these kids these days are coddled and they can't take hard coaching and sulk when they are called out. Can't count the times I calmed my son down when he played CFB. When a coach coaches you hard he see's promise and demands the best from you. If you don't get coached up that means they don't care because you don't have it. Good grief, my DC didn't seem to know a name other than mine but I played every game.

This fan base had done it with every coach since Fulmer; Kiffin is a bit different because he ran away, he wasn't run off.

Dooley was awesome and Georgia was going to steal him away until his last season after we got b-slapped by Vandy and suddenly everyone that loved him couldn't stand him anymore. Jones was awesome and Michigan/Notre Dame was going to steal him away until his last season and same thing (funny enough Jones has been the closest to getting us back to good). Pruitt was awesome and Alabama was going to steal him away until it fell apart his last year. I'm sure the same will be said about JH and how OU is going to steal him someday.

Part of the problem is the coach worship that proclaims they are THE coach before they do anything. JH is the 4th coach in a row I've heard that "now we got a real coach!"

As far as as your hypothetical about 2019 and Pruitt...if and buts; doesn't matter "if".....he didn't win those first 2 games. I don't care about hypotheticals.

 

[UTNoFear]

This fan base had done it with every coach since Fulmer; Kiffin is a bit different because he ran away, he wasn't run off.

Dooley was awesome and Georgia was going to steal him away until his last season after we got b-slapped by Vandy and suddenly everyone that loved him couldn't stand him anymore. Jones was awesome and Michigan/Notre Dame was going to steal him away until his last season and same thing (funny enough Jones has been the closest to getting us back to good). Pruitt was awesome and Alabama was going to steal him away until it fell apart his last year. I'm sure the same will be said about JH and how OU is going to steal him someday.

Part of the problem is the coach worship that proclaims they are THE coach before they do anything. JH is the 4th coach in a row I've heard that "now we got a real coach!"

As far as as your hypothetical about 2019 and Pruitt...if and buts; doesn't matter "if".....he didn't win those first 2 games. I don't care about hypothetical.

So you base your opinion on the first two games. Most people think I'm trolling but I'm not. I'm not a Pruitt fan either, i just don't see how a fan base can turn so fast on a man when they proclaimed him god send after 2019 and the preseason rankings. Everyone was cornbread and we saw it here. My questions is this, throw the 2 games aside or say we won and finished 10-3 how would the fan base felt? They loved the man after a 8-5 season but slammed him in 2020. As I said before. UT was hit with more covid cases than any other school in the conference. We had a terrible year and then the infractions for recruiting came out and the ceiling dropped but the fan base left before then but months before loved him!!!!!!

As I said before our fanbase is fickle. Goodness knows how fast they will turn on CJH. I understand we as a fan base are hurting for a winning program, but right now our fans are killing us. Something has to give and I don't know what that is. I knew when our AD was hired CJH would be our next HC. I hope he will wright the ship, but i fear he will fail and the fan base will annihilate him.

 

[BeardedVol]

So you base your opinion on the first two games. Most people think I'm trolling but I'm not. I'm not a Pruitt fan either, i just don't see how a fan base can turn so fast on a man when they proclaimed him god send after 2019 and the preseason rankings. Everyone was cornbread and we saw it here. My questions is this, throw the 2 games aside or say we won and finished 10-3 how would the fan base felt? They loved the man after a 8-5 season but slammed him in 2020. As I said before. UT was hit with more covid cases than any other school in the conference. We had a terrible year and then the infractions for recruiting came out and the ceiling dropped but the fan base left before then but months before loved him!!!!!!

As I said before our fanbase is fickle. Goodness knows how fast they will turn on CJH. I understand we as a fan base are hurting for a winning program, but right now our fans are killing us. Something has to give and I don't know what that is. I knew when our AD was hired CJH would be our next HC. I hope he will wright the ship, but i fear he will fail and the fan base will annihilate him.

There were plenty of us that were skeptical of Pruitt's coaching ability when he was first hired, and who were not swayed by the last half of the 2019 season.

This idea you are peddling, that everyone was coach-worshiping him just like you, is false.

 

[N.ohio vol]

 

[hog88]

So you base your opinion on the first two games. Most people think I'm trolling but I'm not. I'm not a Pruitt fan either, i just don't see how a fan base can turn so fast on a man when they proclaimed him god send after 2019 and the preseason rankings. Everyone was cornbread and we saw it here. My questions is this, throw the 2 games aside or say we won and finished 10-3 how would the fan base felt? They loved the man after a 8-5 season but slammed him in 2020. As I said before. UT was hit with more covid cases than any other school in the conference. We had a terrible year and then the infractions for recruiting came out and the ceiling dropped but the fan base left before then but months before loved him!!!!!!

As I said before our fanbase is fickle. Goodness knows how fast they will turn on CJH. I understand we as a fan base are hurting for a winning program, but right now our fans are killing us. Something has to give and I don't know what that is. I knew when our AD was hired CJH would be our next HC. I hope he will wright the ship, but i fear he will fail and the fan base will annihilate him.

Everyone that paid attention saw the 2019 season for what it was, pure luck and didn't fall in love with the guy. He caught lightning in a bottle with the schedule and was lucky to win the games he did. You could see in 2018 that the man and staff had no ****ing clue what they were doing.

 

[Mose Phillip's Watch]

Fooled us all

 

[VAVol85]

He wasn’t hired as head coach of Georgia.

That’s all I’ve got

Although he reportedly did do some damage there even as just an assistant.

 

[UnkieVol]

So I went to a small, private Christian high school, and in our Bible class, we had to do a book report on a biography of Martin Luther.

Well, several people in the class decided to print off an article from the internet, akin to a Wikipedia page, about Martin Luther, rather than reading the book. They all got caught.

One of the girls in the class who got caught did so because she did her report on Martin Luther King instead of Martin Luther. When her mother was told about it, her response was rumored to be, "My God. She can't even cheat well, can she?"





This is why I don't like Jeremy Pruitt. If you're going to cheat, win. He couldn't even do that.

 

[Elhanan]

Pruitt defenders would still be on here singing his praises had the school not fired him no matter his record. They would have blindly followed him right off a cliff.

It’s better he failed epically enough to be canned. They pulled off the bandaid before we wasted another 5-7 years on being bottom feeders.

Hopefully they didn’t screw the hire up... again.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

So I went to a small, private Christian high school, and in our Bible class, we had to do a book report on a biography of Martin Luther.

Well, several people in the class decided to print off an article from the internet, akin to a Wikipedia page, about Martin Luther, rather than reading the book. They all got caught.

One of the girls in the class who got caught did so because she did her report on Martin Luther King instead of Martin Luther. When her mother was told about it, her response was rumored to be, "My God. She can't even cheat well, can she?"





This is why I don't like Jeremy Pruitt. If you're going to cheat, win. He couldn't even do that.

Pruitts problem was he was starting Martin Luther King at QB when he should have been starting Martin Luther.