Really thin at QB next year

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butchna said:
Because I THINK that both would transfer in that situation. Definitely not HOPING for it, but if that happens, JG's backup is going to be more immediately critical than EVENTUAL options in 2018 and 2019. There are a lot of posters who seem to agree with you that Sheriron has abandoned any and all personal ambitions in favor of being a VFL. I personally feel that he has given himself every chance to start at QB for this team...and that's his preference. Failing to achieve that, he'll complete his dream elsewhere...jmo.
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Where did you get the bold above from me about Jones? I've never said anything like that about Jones dude for posters to agree with me. That was somebody else & not me for sure. I've not even talked about Jones on these forums until this discussion we're having now. Thanks!
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Yep, BOT, you're right. If we didn't sign a QB in '17, and JG or QD transferred, we'd be dangerously thin. Absolutely.

Just not gonna worry about it unless all those conditions come into play. Mainly because I'd be surprised if we didn't recruit at least one (maybe two?) QBs in the '17 signing class. With that, we'd be okay even if a current member of the squad transferred out.
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We're going to get either Bubba Thompson or Urich one from the 2017 class. This will give us 4 QB's if one like Dormady or JG decides to transfer. I think JG is too good not to be our QB but Dormady is awfully good passing the ball as well. However, I think the one that gets beat out is gone.

That would leave Jones as a backup & we also have Jancek plus whoever we get for 2017 in either Thompson or Urich. We then go after a top QB recruit really hard for either 2018 or 2019. That's the way I see our QB situation.
 
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tonybologna said:
Where did you get the bold above from me about Jones? I've never said anything like that about Jones dude for posters to agree with me. That was somebody else & not me for sure. I've not even talked about Jones on these forums until this discussion we're having now. Thanks!
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When you say you don't believe Jones will transfer if he loses out, THAT'S what you're essentially saying...because that's what he would be doing. He'd be the QB in waiting for a pretty decent rebuilding program in Colorado. He came back because he wanted to be the guy in Tennessee. Hes not out of the running for that, but he's a starting QB for some program...I don't think he abandons that to be a backup.

FTR I don't see JG transferring if he finishes second...four years of eligibility and constantly competing with a QB that has two remaining (if it's Dormady)...math doesn't add up.
 
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tonybologna said:
We're going to get either Bubba Thompson or Urich one from the 2017 class. This will give us 4 QB's if one like Dormady or JG decides to transfer. I think JG is too good not to be our QB but Dormady is awfully good passing the ball as well. However, I think the one that gets beat out is gone.

That would leave Jones as a backup & we also have Jancek plus whoever we get for 2017 in either Thompson or Urich. We then go after a top QB recruit really hard for either 2018 or 2019. That's the way I see our QB situation.
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Could end up that way. I do like the idea of taking 2 QBs in 2017. That would at least buffer things a bit when it comes to transfers. Although, if we just take 1 QB in 2017, that would likely be good as well. Unless for some unknown reason, 2 pf QD, SJ and JG were to transfer. Then that would be a disaster scenario. I dont think that will happen though.
 
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butchna said:
When you say you don't believe Jones will transfer if he loses out, THAT'S what you're essentially saying...because that's what he would be doing. He'd be the QB in waiting for a pretty decent rebuilding program in Colorado. He came back because he wanted to be the guy in Tennessee. Hes not out of the running for that, but he's a starting QB for some program...I don't think he abandons that to be a backup.

FTR I don't see JG transferring if he finishes second...four years of eligibility and constantly competing with a QB that has two remaining...math doesn't add up.
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Bold above. That's not true butchna. You're now assuming things.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Could end up that way. I do like the idea of taking 2 QBs in 2017. That would at least buffer things a bit when it comes to transfers. Although, if we just take 1 QB in 2017, that would likely be good as well. Unless for some unknown reason, 2 pf QD, SJ and JG were to transfer. Then that would be a disaster scenario. I dont think that will happen though.
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I don't think that would happen either. I think the loser of who gets beat out at starting QB between Dormady & JG will transfer to another school. I don't think Jones is going anywhere so he would fall into the backup role with also Jancek as possible our 3rd string or either Bubba Thompson or Urich following behind.

I don't think neither one of these 2017 recruits are college football ready except for maybe Urich because of his size & ability but I still think throwing a redshirt on either one of them would be the case. More solid QB options down the line in 2018 & 2019.
 
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3rd string could be 2 plays away from starting.

One may end up transferring but I doubt 2 will.

We've been lucky with Dobbs being very durable.
 
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butchna said:
You're SAYING it Tony! If he were to stay? That's what he would be doing!
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Butchna, I'm saying WHAT MY BUDDY? By me saying if he was to stay has nothing to do with what you accused the posters agreeing with me on.

Where are you coming from with this stuff? I never tried or even mentioned Jones leaving or staying at UT before tonight when we started our discussion about this QB situation.

I swear to you I haven't even brought his name up in that fashion. Please could we let this go about Jones now? Holy Toledo Charlie! :crazy:
 
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tonybologna said:
Butchna, I'm saying WHAT MY BUDDY? By me saying if he was to stay has nothing to do with what you accused the posters agreeing with me on.

Where are you coming from with this stuff? I never tried or even mentioned Jones leaving or staying at UT before tonight when we started our discussion about this QB situation.

I swear to you I haven't even brought his name up in that fashion. Please could we let this go about Jones now? Holy Toledo Charlie! :crazy:
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If he doesn't transfer after not winning the starting QB position at Tennessee...as you opined. That's what he would be doing. Giving up on that to help Tennessee. Doesn't matter if you said it BEFORE tonight. You stated it TONIGHT. Easy concession.
 
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Alto1 said:
Reference 1994 Peyton's freshman year.
He was third string behind Jerry Colquitt and Todd Helton.

Peyton Manning was briefly Todd Helton's backup QB at Tennessee - CBSSports.com
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Was actually neck and neck with Branndon Stewart...both were slated to redshirt. Key point of that reference is that Stewart transferred after the end of that season established Peyton. We were razor thin the next season because Helton went baseball and Colquitt's application for a 6th season got shot down by the NCAA. We were very lucky that Manning was durable...like Dobbs has been.
 
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volmandu said:
I am not going to predict who wins the job next year. Whether it is JG, QD or Sheriron, chances are other two will transfer. No way 4-star guys stay here to be career back-up. What that leaves us with is one 4-star QB, Zack Jancek and some unheralded incoming freshman.

What are your thoughts ? Could two of them stay and only one transfer ? I think highly unlikely.

Do we get a JUCO guy or is there some big name freshman that we are pursuing ?

Could JJ come to rescue if needed ?
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Sheez, they could put Medley at QB and we'd be in better shape than we are now.
 
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butchna said:
I think he moves on. If by "managing" you mean blatantly lie your ass off? It works only so far.
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No. Just point out that first choices when replacing a QB often do not work out. When they do, there's always the possibility if not likelihood of injury at some point. And.... football isn't the only reason they chose UT and wouldn't be the only reason they left.

Years ago I had a basic training soldier in my unit that was determined to quit. He hated the army and everything about it.... especially after he learned his first duty assignment was Germany far from home and his HS girlfriend. Finally, a chaplain took him into his office and showed him pictures of Europe and talked about the experiences he could have. He stayed.

Nothing to do with any of the things he complained about or even the army. That appears to have been a big factor in SJ's return.
 
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there's a lot of assuming going on here. i think it's just mainly overreaction to Hurd, Williams etc..
 
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Whole lotta folks underestimate QD. He's going to be a junior. He will start. JG and Jones to back up. JG will be able to start when he's a jr or QD loses the job.
 
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I was raised not to buy trouble before it went on sale so I'll wait 'til 4/17 to start worrying about who's QBing.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Whole lotta folks underestimate QD. He's going to be a junior. He will start. JG and Jones to back up. JG will be able to start when he's a jr or QD loses the job.
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If QD loses the job, I hope it's in the Spring or before the season starts. Cause if it's during the season, That means we have some losses. There's gonna be some sad singin and flower bringin on this site if that happens.
 
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2017 Vols will run the wildcat with Drew Richmond taking the direct snaps. He's a 5 star you know.
 
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A lot of posters here seem to believe atleast one or both of our QBs will stay once the third one wins the job. I find that scenario hard to comprehend. JG will be a RS Freshman, SJ will be a RS Sophomore and QD will be a junior.
If QD wins the job, other have a two year wait or hope for QD to play bad/get hurt before they get their chance. They can transfer, sit out a year in system and compete immediately for the job.
If either of the other two wins the job, remaining two will only get a chance if starter gets hurt or gets benched. How many 4-star QBs are willing to sit and wait for it.

A lot you cited scenarios where 4 and 5 start QBs waited. We have 3 waiting right now. That is coz starter will be graduating this year leaving an open competition.
 
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