Realistic expectations for H. Bailey (Merged)

[TNVOLFN]

Just a heads up, but I feel we need to slow down with our expectations for Bailey coming on to campus and being QB1 on day one. The kid throws an elite ball, no question, but he also holds onto the ball for a long time and takes sacks and he is prone to throw interceptions.

No doubt that can all be corrected, but I'm telling you, he is a work in progress as I've seen him play multiple times. You can't simply look at stats because 1. That's not a true indicator of how a player's game translates to the next level and 2. a LOT of his throws were either perimeter throws to exceptional athletes or short passes to a generational talent in Gilbert.

I really think he can be the guy one day, I just don't think there's anyway shape or form he comes into the current QB room and leap frogs any of those guys in short order, Shrout included... To me, great thing about all of this is that he isn't needed right away and he can get a year or two in Coach Chaney's system.

 

[VOL_Lyfe]

I'll be reasonable, and not ask Bailey to do anything Joe Burrow hasn't done.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Ok Ok Ok...you are right.


We will wait until the second game for HB to become Peyton 2.0

Patiently wait

 

[irish1485]

I hope the kid redshirts next year for his sake.. a few bad drives and volnation will have the pitchforks ready

 

[volmanal]

With all the talent he had to throw with and the fact that he has had only 1 healthy season, I only hope to redshirt him and let him develop though the system.

 

[ETV]

I hope the kid redshirts next year for his sake.. a few bad drives and volnation will have the pitchforks ready

VN has a reputation for being irrational, but if you're referring to JG's 3 years as a starter, VN had every right to be frustrated.

 

[sechamp2012]

Yeah a RS would be good for HB and would have helped BM. JG & JTS got to RS as a true freshman. It’s hard to come in ready.
Although I think 6 true F started this year in P5.

 

[MarcoVol]

Just a heads up, but I feel we need to slow down with our expectations for Bailey coming on to campus and being QB1 on day one. The kid throws an elite ball, no question, but he also holds onto the ball for a long time and takes sacks and he is prone to throw interceptions.

No doubt that can all be corrected, but I'm telling you, he is a work in progress as I've seen him play multiple times. You can't simply look at stats because 1. That's not a true indicator of how a player's game translates to the next level and 2. a LOT of his throws were either perimeter throws to exceptional athletes or short passes to a generational talent in Gilbert.

I really think he can be the guy one day, I just don't think there's anyway shape or form he comes into the current QB room and leap frogs any of those guys in short order, Shrout included... To me, great thing about all of this is that he isn't needed right away and he can get a year or two in Coach Chaney's system.

Not saying you shouldn’t temper expectations but:

1) he was playing behind a mediocre OL while playing against top teams for the majority of his career in HS

2) he is not prone to INT’s - he had a 2.3% INT rate this season throwing for 44 TD’s, and a 2.2% INT rate for his career while throwing 93 TD’s

 

[Mjewell]

I watched him play Saturday night in the Championship game and thought he looked really good. I don't think he will start the season at #1 Qb, but could see him taking over at some point. Remember his early enrollment will allow him the spring and summer camps. GBO!!!

 

[Zues1]

"The kid throws an elite ball, no question, but he also holds onto the ball for a long time and takes sacks and he is prone to throw interceptions" Is this ground hog day.

 

[MarcoVol]

"The kid throws an elite ball, no question, but he also holds onto the ball for a long time and takes sacks and he is prone to throw interceptions" Is this ground hog day.

No, just bad analysis

 

[ETV]

If Beano were still with us, I'd say he'd predict Bailey as a 3 time Heisman trophy winner.

 

[smokey90]

Ah man, I was having a good day until Scrooge starts this thread. Could you have waited for after Christmas to start this?

 

[BearCat204]

Heisman.....................as a freshman

 

[Gandalf]

I am perfectly calm when I say that I fully expect him to win not one but TWO Heisman Trophies in the same year - and that would be just his true freshman year. Yes, I know it has never been done before but they still owe us one for Peyton so they should allow it.

 

[Behr]

Dont you worry about the speed of my expectations, they are moving along at the perfect speed, thank you very much.

 

[madbamahater]

He will likely redshift his Freshman season since JG will be the starter until otherwise not.....

 

[SandoVOL]

Just a heads up, but I feel we need to slow down with our expectations for Bailey coming on to campus and being QB1 on day one. The kid throws an elite ball, no question, but he also holds onto the ball for a long time and takes sacks and he is prone to throw interceptions.

No doubt that can all be corrected, but I'm telling you, he is a work in progress as I've seen him play multiple times. You can't simply look at stats because 1. That's not a true indicator of how a player's game translates to the next level and 2. a LOT of his throws were either perimeter throws to exceptional athletes or short passes to a generational talent in Gilbert.

I really think he can be the guy one day, I just don't think there's anyway shape or form he comes into the current QB room and leap frogs any of those guys in short order, Shrout included... To me, great thing about all of this is that he isn't needed right away and he can get a year or two in Coach Chaney's system.

Incredible analysis, especially the being prone to interceptions part (incredibly bad analysis)

 

[Pride85]

I'll be reasonable, and not ask Bailey to do anything Joe Burrow hasn't done.

Well, Joe Burrow is a Senior, not a true freshman. If he meets that level next year, we will enjoy three good years of his services. I am confident he will be in the running for top dog if his college career follows the same track as his high school group.

 

[Orange Alert]

With all the talent he had to throw with and the fact that he has had only 1 healthy season, I only hope to redshirt him and let him develop though the system.

The best case scenario for us is that he comes in and looks really good in the spring and fall camps but JG still wins the job. The competition should push JG but if he falters you have Bailey to fall back on.

 

[rickyb712]

Just a heads up, but I feel we need to slow down with our expectations for Bailey coming on to campus and being QB1 on day one. The kid throws an elite ball, no question, but he also holds onto the ball for a long time and takes sacks and he is prone to throw interceptions.

No doubt that can all be corrected, but I'm telling you, he is a work in progress as I've seen him play multiple times. You can't simply look at stats because 1. That's not a true indicator of how a player's game translates to the next level and 2. a LOT of his throws were either perimeter throws to exceptional athletes or short passes to a generational talent in Gilbert.

I really think he can be the guy one day, I just don't think there's anyway shape or form he comes into the current QB room and leap frogs any of those guys in short order, Shrout included... To me, great thing about all of this is that he isn't needed right away and he can get a year or two in Coach Chaney's system.

thanks coach

 

[Tennesseefan2019]

I think Harrison Bailey will be an All SEC level quarterback

 

[RollerVol]

gonna let the coaches do what they get paid for...

 

[TNVOLFN]

Not saying you shouldn’t temper expectations but:

1) he was playing behind a mediocre OL while playing against top teams for the majority of his career in HS

2) he is not prone to INT’s - he had a 2.3% INT rate this season throwing for 44 TD’s, and a 2.2% INT rate for his career while throwing 93 TD’s

When boiled down like that, yes, he has a very low interception rate. But, there's more to it than that considering many, many, many of his throws were routes out of the backfield, quick game (3 step) throws, or perimeter screens to elite high school athletes.

To be more accurate, I should've said he's interception prone on drop back passes - I think 9 interceptions this season is a lot, but it's more or less that I have seen him throw countless balls into traffic when he shouldn't have and missed a lot of throws on deep balls that were easy interceptions, but were dropped.

I'm rooting for the kid. My whole point is that we gotta be patient with this extremely talented kid who I hope has the best career ever as a QB at the University of Tennessee!

 

[therealitytheory]

I look for Harrison to put up a solid numbers his freshman year.....say, 40 TDs and 5,000 yds passing. A nice start; something he can build on his remaining two years.