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g8terh8ter_eric

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Told you Foster haters that Foster was our best back. Coker hasn't done crap this game. Foster has 3 TD's. Coker maybe fast, but power makes up for Foster's lack of agility. Coker is our 3rd best back with Hardesty healthy. Coker needs to be a WR, IMO. We can utilize him better that way.
 
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You're absolutely crazy if you think Coker is our 3rd best back behind Hardesty. Same goes if you think it's that obvious that Foster is our best back. I guess you've forgotten how Coker made any sort of running game we had last year.

What has Coker done? He's got 10 touches for 80 yards and a touchdown. That's 8 yards per touch. Soooo....your point?

Anyone is going to run well with the way our offensive line is running. Boasting about Foster's 3 tds is like boasting about Jerome Bettis getting all of the TD's two years ago after Willie Parker ran them inside the 5.

Don't get me wrong, Foster has played well and he's a good runningback, but keep in mind the costly fumbles he's had that have single handily cost us a few games.
 
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NationofVols said:
You're absolutely crazy if you think Coker is our 3rd best back behind Hardesty. Same goes if you think it's that obvious that Foster is our best back. I guess you've forgotten how Coker made any sort of running game we had last year.

What has Coker done? He's got 10 touches for 80 yards and a touchdown. That's 8 yards per touch. Soooo....your point?

Anyone is going to run well with the way our offensive line is running. Boasting about Foster's 3 tds is like boasting about Jerome Bettis getting all of the TD's two years ago after Willie Parker ran them inside the 5.

Don't get me wrong, Foster has played well and he's a good runningback, but keep in mind the costly fumbles he's had that have single handily cost us a few games.
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Foster is our best back, go ahead and ride a 4 play wonder from last year if you want. Other than the 4 plays Coker had last year, he was as ineffective if not more than Foster. Keep in mind that Foster was injured last year as well and Hardesty was too. Coker is our third best back, when both Foster and Hardesty are healthy. If Coker was our best back, he would be first string.
 
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AF has had an amazing day today. Every shot of him showed focus all over his face.
 
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NationofVols said:
You're absolutely crazy if you think Coker is our 3rd best back behind Hardesty. Same goes if you think it's that obvious that Foster is our best back. I guess you've forgotten how Coker made any sort of running game we had last year.

What has Coker done? He's got 10 touches for 80 yards and a touchdown. That's 8 yards per touch. Soooo....your point?

Anyone is going to run well with the way our offensive line is running. Boasting about Foster's 3 tds is like boasting about Jerome Bettis getting all of the TD's two years ago after Willie Parker ran them inside the 5.

Don't get me wrong, Foster has played well and he's a good runningback, but keep in mind the costly fumbles he's had that have single handily cost us a few games.
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ANd a 56 yards TD catch on a trick play is what inflated those numbers...Rushing hes 9 for 24...less than 3 per touch
 
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I'll ride my "4 play wonder" like you'll continue to forget about the 2 huge games Foster has cost us. I'm an Arian Foster fan, but just because he's having a good game today when EVERYONE on our team is having a good game, doesn't make him better than he is.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all be millionaires......You're using injuries, which tend to happen quite often with Foster and Hardesty, as an excuse last year while Coker was averaging 6.4 per carry to Foster's 3.6, is pathetic. I could easily blame Coker's suspension and personal matters on why he isn't starting this year, but I guess that would be different eh? When Foster got healthy last year, he didn't reclaim his job after Coker ran with it.

Try to spin 6.4 per carry and 700 yards in 9 games as "negative" any way you want, but it isn't going to work.

If 6.4 is ineffective, what is 3.5? LOL!!! Think about that before responding.

There are plenty of players that are "our best" that aren't starting for one reason or another. That happens with every team and it's no different with us.
 
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NationofVols said:
I'll ride my "4 play wonder" like you'll continue to forget about the 2 huge games Foster has cost us. I'm an Arian Foster fan, but just because he's having a good game today when EVERYONE on our team is having a good game, doesn't make him better than he is.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all be millionaires......You're using injuries, which tend to happen quite often with Foster and Hardesty, as an excuse last year while Coker was averaging 6.4 per carry to Foster's 3.6, is pathetic. I could easily blame Coker's suspension and personal matters on why he isn't starting this year, but I guess that would be different eh? When Foster got healthy last year, he didn't reclaim his job after Coker ran with it.

Try to spin 6.4 per carry and 700 yards in 9 games as "negative" any way you want, but it isn't going to work.

If 6.4 is ineffective, what is 3.5? LOL!!! Think about that before responding.

There are plenty of players that are "our best" that aren't starting for one reason or another. That happens with every team and it's no different with us.
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Your a one-hit wonder lover. We all love the fact that Coker played well in wins against Marshall, Air Force, and Vandy last year. Other than that, Coker didn't do much of anything. Coker had 50% of all his rushing yards in those games. Coker is an athlete that's for sure, but he's not a RB that we will use very much until he gets bigger. Coker is our best offensive weapon, but not our best RB. Coker needs to be a WR.
 
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orangeblooded_2 said:
ANd a 56 yards TD catch on a trick play is what inflated those numbers...Rushing hes 9 for 24...less than 3 per touch
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So? Suddenly big plays don't count? LOL! I guess they should strip Reggie Bush of the Heisman Trophy and take away everything Erik Ainge did last year considering Meachem made several plays himself from short passes right?

Be excited for Foster. I'm excited for Foster. But he's shown to have ability and I spent a whole thread arguing in his defense before the season started if you care to go dig it up. However, he's screwed us a few times and just because he's having a good game doesn't mean you can boast as if he's been doing this week in and week out and it's obvious that he's the best back because that isn't so.

Rather or not he's the best back is pointless when we're using 3 every game. But trying to downplay what another player has done just to try to support your case is stupid.
 
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I'm a one hit wonder lover? haha.....what?

If I'm a one hit wonder lover, you're a game changing fumbler lover. Because as many as "one hit wonders" as Coker has given us, Foster has given us with his untimely mistakes.

Again, realize that you're arguing against someone that argued with several people on here at the start of the season IN DEFENSE of Arian Foster......please stop trying to win an argument that doesn't involve winning and losing.

Speaking of the yards that Coker got against a few teams last year, what about all of the yards that Foster accumulated against just a few opponents in 2005?

What has he reeeeeeeeeeeeally done that is so great? He hasn't been consistent, he's cost us more games than he's won for us, and he hasn't stood out amongst a crowd at any point other than 2005. At least as a "one hit wonder" in Coker has given the defense something to think about and has made big plays while we're constantly worrying when Foster is going to fumble next.
 
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NationofVols said:
I'm a one hit wonder lover? haha.....what?

If I'm a one hit wonder lover, you're a game changing fumbler lover. Because as many as "one hit wonders" as Coker has given us, Foster has given us with his untimely mistakes.

Again, realize that you're arguing against someone that argued with several people on here at the start of the season IN DEFENSE of Arian Foster......please stop trying to win an argument that doesn't involve winning and losing.

Speaking of the yards that Coker got against a few teams last year, what about all of the yards that Foster accumulated against just a few opponents in 2005?

What has he reeeeeeeeeeeeally done that is so great? He hasn't been consistent, he's cost us more games than he's won for us, and he hasn't stood out amongst a crowd at any point other than 2005. At least as a "one hit wonder" in Coker has given the defense something to think about and has made big plays while we're constantly worrying when Foster is going to fumble next.
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Your love for Coker is why I'll trust our coaches evaluation over yours anyday. I don't think Coker has played the 2nd half, gee I wonder why??
 
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NationofVols said:
So? Suddenly big plays don't count? LOL! I guess they should strip Reggie Bush of the Heisman Trophy and take away everything Erik Ainge did last year considering Meachem made several plays himself from short passes right?

Be excited for Foster. I'm excited for Foster. But he's shown to have ability and I spent a whole thread arguing in his defense before the season started if you care to go dig it up. However, he's screwed us a few times and just because he's having a good game doesn't mean you can boast as if he's been doing this week in and week out and it's obvious that he's the best back because that isn't so.

Rather or not he's the best back is pointless when we're using 3 every game. But trying to downplay what another player has done just to try to support your case is stupid.
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No I didnt say that. You did. Im just saying that whoever was on the receiving end of that...didnt matter. ANYBODY would have scored. But up front...where it counts...AF is THE back to use.

So again, I go back to the 9 carries for 24 yards.
 
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how do you feel about Coker muffing a kickoff since fumbling seems to be your sticking point. He's dropped a few this year
 
#15
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Coker is and will be the fastest back on this team. That's not taking anything away from Foster, he had a great game, but the coaching staff needs to have Coker in the game some too.
 
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I know this is not a common opinion. I have said this before. When fully healthy, our best all around RB is Hardesty. Wait and see.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Told you Foster haters that Foster was our best back. Coker hasn't done crap this game. Foster has 3 TD's. Coker maybe fast, but power makes up for Foster's lack of agility. Coker is our 3rd best back with Hardesty healthy. Coker needs to be a WR, IMO. We can utilize him better that way.
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James Stewart had 5 TDs in a NFL game. I guess that makes him one of the best NFL backs ever to you.

I am happy about Foster's performance. He got the bulk of the carries early on and did what he was supposed to do.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Told you Foster haters that Foster was our best back. Coker hasn't done crap this game. Foster has 3 TD's. Coker maybe fast, but power makes up for Foster's lack of agility. Coker is our 3rd best back with Hardesty healthy. Coker needs to be a WR, IMO. We can utilize him better that way.
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lack of agility? foster looks pretty agile to me. coker doesn't need to be a receiver. we have 2, 3, maybe 4 good running backs. last game coker was best, this game foster was on. no need to debate.
 
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It's a nice combo. You need more than one back in the SEC. I thought Hardesty ran very well and WILL be our top back when fully healthy. He has the potential with speed power, and cutting ability. No need to argue today, they all played well.
 
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NationofVols said:
You're absolutely crazy if

Don't get me wrong, Foster has played well and he's a good runningback, but keep in mind the costly fumbles he's had that have single handily cost us a few games.
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foster's fumble maybe cost us the penn state game, but i challenge you to name another. don't post silly exaggerations to try to prove your point. all it proves is that you have no point. by the way, the fumble against florida was primarily erik's fault. he handed the ball off into foster's shoulder pad.
 
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thagodfather said:
lack of agility? foster looks pretty agile to me. coker doesn't need to be a receiver. we have 2, 3, maybe 4 good running backs. last game coker was best, this game foster was on. no need to debate.
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Exactly. What is wrong with you people? Let us open up the stable to our 4 solid backs, each with their own strengths and weaknesses. I find it ridiculous you guys are so wound up over who is the better back. It is a time to be happy!
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Told you Foster haters that Foster was our best back. Coker hasn't done crap this game. Foster has 3 TD's. Coker maybe fast, but power makes up for Foster's lack of agility. Coker is our 3rd best back with Hardesty healthy. Coker needs to be a WR, IMO. We can utilize him better that way.
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i really dont know what to think about Coker. At times he looks brilliant as a rb, and then other times he looks like he doesnt have the size to run through the defense. sure he's fast but speed can only do so much in the running game. you have to have the muscle to run it between the tackles.
 
#23
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Rb's had a great game.

HATS OFF to the men in the trenches!!!!:hi:
We dominated the line of scrimmage.
 
#25
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I still think Hardesty played the best. AF had the three TD's but he still runs like he's a quick back (which he isn't) instead of a power back (like he should be). He wants to dance around and never lower his head.

Hardesty ran hard. He earned every yard he got too.
 
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