Ranking the SEC after weekend One

[99gator]

You guys are so prisoner of the moment. Overreacting like crazy to just one week of games.

Nothing that happened this weekend has changed my preseason rankings.

I'm sticking with:

(Tier 1)
1. Tennessee
2. Alabama
3. LSU

(Tier 2)
4. Texas A&M
5. Georgia
6. Auburn
7. Florida

(Tier 3)
8. Arkansas
9. Ole Miss
10. Miss St.

(Tier 4)
11. Kentucky
12. Mizzou
13. South Carolina
14. Vanderbilt

There is only one school that belongs in tier 1. One.

A second tier is empty.

Everyone else is 3rd tier or below. A lot of teams had and continue to show major, major problems.

The interesting thing would be to see what some of these teams would look like if you replaced the brutal with something simply adequate.

It's unreal how talented LSU os year after year and how god awful their QB situation is.

PS. Did you see Kelvin Taylor got cut?

 

[tennesseeduke]

(Realizing that Ole Miss plays FSU Monday)

West
Bama
Tamu
Ole Miss
LSU
Auburn
Arkansas
MSU

East
UGA
UF
UT
USC
VU
UK
MU

Why are people conference homers? I wish all of them lose except for us. They all suck except for UT!

Go Vols and kill VT.

:thud:

Tennesseeduke

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

There is only one school that belongs in tier 1. One.

A second tier is empty.

Everyone else is 3rd tier or below. A lot of teams had and continue to show major, major problems.

The interesting thing would be to see what some of these teams would look like if you replaced the brutal with something simply adequate.

It's unreal how talented LSU os year after year and how god awful their QB situation is.

PS. Did you see Kelvin Taylor got cut?

Alabama didn't sit on a perch by itself last year. What makes you think that's the case this year?

People overreact to week 1 because they think they know how good certain teams are. You think USC is a pretty good team. So Alabama destroying them makes you think they're a juggernaut.

What is USC is a 5-7 ball club in the Pac 12?

What if Wisconsin is a 11-1 team in the Big 10?

All of a sudden Alabama destroying a 5-7 team far away from the west coast doesn't look as impressive and LSU losing losing a de facto road game to a great Big 10 team doesn't look as bad.

Lotta season left to play guys.

 

[99gator]

Alabama didn't sit on a perch by itself last year. What makes you think that's the case this year?

People overreact to week 1 because they think they know how good certain teams are. You think USC is a pretty good team. So Alabama destroying them makes you think they're a juggernaut.

What is USC is a 5-7 ball club in the Pac 12?

What if Wisconsin is a 11-1 team in the Big 10?

All of a sudden Alabama destroying a 5-7 team far away from the west coast doesn't look as impressive and LSU losing losing a de facto road game to a great Big 10 team doesn't look as bad.

Lotta season left to play guys.

The easy thing to see is that Alabama is a different beast than everyone else on the line of scrimmage.

And thats not going to change.

Good news is that it's college football. These are amateurs. You are different team every week. Upsets happen.

But, considering the weakness of several so called contenders is up front on the line of scrimmage, I'll take Bama and you can have the field for who wins the SEC

 

[ImportedVoL]

If you are looking at game play and ranking based on that..you could put UGA ahead of UT.

Other then that your insane..UF played a much worse team then we did, and did nothing special to prove any of their question marks have been answered.

We only need better Oline play, and the rest will fall into place once we can establish the run like we should, everything else gets much easier.

Ours fans over reactions have to be the most epic on the planet..

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Why are people conference homers? I wish all of them lose except for us. They all suck except for UT!

Because those people understand logic, they get cause-and-effect, and they know that continuing to be in a conference universally respected as the best in all of college football isn't free.

Other than that, yeah, they're total idiots.

 

[allenrikvik]

It is a long season and the team will show dramatic improvement between games 1 and 2, and more improvement between games 2 and 3. At that point, after game 3, judgements will have more facts than opinions.

In addition, the various football rankings will start to take some real shape. They are not perfect, but the computer 'stat-based' ranks are not biased.

 

[SJF]

Ranking the SEC! Well it's BAMA and then everyone that they are going to beat down!

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Bama is such a well-disciplined team (on the practice and playing field, I mean) that one might expect them to come into their first game better-prepared than your average bear.

The flip side of that coin is that they don't have as much room for improvement in the first couple of weeks of the season as other teams.

So let's don't coronate them just yet. There will be SEC teams who get up to speed as September plays out, and might even be some who knock them off. I'm hoping the Vols are one of those teams.

 

[Forever151]

UGA ran all over on a team that was ranked 122 in run defense last year . Lets not t over react now

 

[coach799]

It would be kind of disappointing if our fans didn't overreact to the performance on Thursday night. We have been tortured for the last ten years with under-achieving and disappointments galore. It's a tradition that can change if the team just starts living up to the hype being spewed before the game.

I have faith that the coaching staff just tried to be too basic and the veterans' mistakes damaged the confidence of the team and the staff was shocked by it. They survived the miscues and won. Put it behind and move on to the BoB!!!

GO VOLS!!!

 

[WesternKyVol]

Because those people understand logic, they get cause-and-effect, and they know that continuing to be in a conference universally respected as the best in all of college football isn't free.

Other than that, yeah, they're total idiots.

What exactly do we get out of continuing to be in a conference universally respected as the best?

Not really seeing a Tennessee dividend there.

 

[rmeharv]

I would put us above Fla due to the fact that we beat a team ranked in the 40s and they beat a team ranked in the 120s.

 

[rmeharv]

Because those people understand logic, they get cause-and-effect, and they know that continuing to be in a conference universally respected as the best in all of college football isn't free.

Other than that, yeah, they're total idiots.

Also, that is why Houston may never be truly considered for the playoff even after beating OU. Their conference is weak so it plays to their disadvantage.

 

[WesternKyVol]

Houston wins out, there is 0 chance they miss the playoff.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Houston wins out, there is 0 chance they miss the playoff.

How so?

If Oklahoma goes 8-4 this season then that win loses it's luster.

This reminds me of Utah beating Oregon last year. Everyone thought Oregon was still elite so when Utah destroyed them everyone elevated Utah to being a top 5 team. Oregon turned out to be not that good. Same with Utah.

Houston's only chance at the playoffs is if Oklahoma runs the table and wins the Big 12.

 

[Revengevol]

If we are going by the first weekend and how they played.

(Tier 1)
Alabama

(Tier2)
Georgia
Florida
Ole Miss-to be determined

(Tier 3)
LSU
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Auburn

(Tier 4)
South Carolina
Arkansas
Kentucky
Miss State
Vanderbilt
Missouri

 

[WesternKyVol]

How so?

If Oklahoma goes 8-4 this season then that win loses it's luster.

This reminds me of Utah beating Oregon last year. Everyone thought Oregon was still elite so when Utah destroyed them everyone elevated Utah to being a top 5 team. Oregon turned out to be not that good. Same with Utah.

Houston's only chance at the playoffs is if Oklahoma runs the table and wins the Big 12.

Nope. They're already ranked in the top 10 after the first week. All they have to do is take care of business.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Houston wins out, there is 0 chance they miss the playoff.

D4H is right. Houston's chances of getting into the playoffs at this point have EVERYthing to do with (1) Oklahoma having a really good year from this point on, and (2) Louisville still being a ranked team in November.

If both those teams turn out to suck, Houston won't sniff the playoffs. If both are ranked and respected, and Houston beats Louisville (and of course wins all 10 of its scrimmages in between), then Houston has a good chance of being the first Group of 5 team to make the playoffs.

p.s. This argument using Houston at 12-0 is the same argument for a strong SEC, just with our best team at 12-1 or even 11-2 after winning in Atlanta. Those who cheer for the other teams in the SEC are following that logic, most of the time.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Also, that is why Houston may never be truly considered for the playoff even after beating OU. Their conference is weak so it plays to their disadvantage.

Yep, exactly. That's why they desperately need Oklahoma and Louisville to rock out all season long. Those are their ONLY two strength of schedule data points.

 

[FancyBoyVol]

Now that Les is once again on the hot seat, I'm expecting to see LSU jettison him, barring an SEC title, and go hard after Tom Herman.

We should go after Herman. He knows how to innovate offense, an ability which no one on our current staff possesses.

Herman is not going anywhere. He's taking Houston into the Big 12 and he's got a lot of big oil money backing the program. Anyone notice the rise of Baylor? That's the same with Houston big money and great recruiting within 100 miles.

That's not how it works. The recruiting part of your statement is valid, however.

 

[harrisonvol6]

If we are going by the first weekend and how they played.

(Tier 1)
Alabama

(Tier2)
Georgia
Florida
Ole Miss-to be determined

(Tier 3)
LSU
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Auburn

(Tier 4)
South Carolina
Arkansas
Kentucky
Miss State
Vanderbilt
Missouri

How can you possibly put Florida in tier two over Tennessee and Texas A&M? Florida beat a UMass team ranked 128 of 128 teams and went 3-9 in the MAC which kicked them out of the conference while Texas A&M took down #16 UCLA and Tennessee beat App State who was 11-2 last year and ranked close to the top 40?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

If we are going by the first weekend and how they played.

(Tier 1)
Alabama

(Tier2)
Georgia
Florida
Ole Miss-to be determined

(Tier 3)
LSU
Texas A&M
Tennessee
Auburn

(Tier 4)
South Carolina
Arkansas
Kentucky
Miss State
Vanderbilt
Missouri

You do know UMass is a North Texas quality team and the game was 10-7 in the 4th quarter?

And how is A&M below Georgia and Florida?

If we're gonna overeact to week 1 then Texas A&M should be in tier 2 with Georgia since they beat #16 UCLA. And Florida should be in Tier 4 with Arkansas since they struggled with a very inferior opponent.

App State is world's better than UMass. They went 11-2 last year while UMass was 3-9.

 

[kid50]

You can rank all you want, but in no way should UF be ranked higher than UT. Period. Will Grier getting suspended could be the worst thing to ever happen to McElwain, ever, in his entire life. He had his guy, now he's down to a former walk-on who's transferred like 3 times.

 

[Revengevol]

You do know UMass is a North Texas quality team and the game was 10-7 in the 4th quarter?

And how is A&M below Georgia and Florida?

If we're gonna overeact to week 1 then Texas A&M should be in tier 2 with Georgia since they beat #16 UCLA. And Florida should be in Tier 4 with Arkansas since they struggled with a very inferior opponent.

App State is world's better than UMass. They went 11-2 last year while UMass was 3-9.

I hope your right but IMHO after the first week that's how I see it. It may change later.