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Orangeslice13 said:
Every gun guy in America is wondering 2 things

How did he not know it was loaded?
And
Why did he point it at someone and pull the trigger?
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Because he’s an actor, probably not a gun guy, and an assistant director had handed it to him and said it was safe?
And
They were shooting a scene, and it called for him to shoot at a character, and they filmed it so that in the resulting film, he would have been facing the audience, and therefore at the time, he was facing the camera?

I’m not trying to be an a-hole or defend Baldwin. I guess I’m just trying to interpret from the point of view of people who are not familiar with guns, and who believe someone when they hand them a prop gun and indicate that it’s safe. They are expecting it to fire the usual blanks.
 
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VolNExile said:
Because he’s an actor, probably not a gun guy, and an assistant director had handed it to him and said it was safe?
And
They were shooting a scene, and it called for him to shoot at a character, and they filmed it so that in the resulting film, he would have been facing the audience, and therefore at the time, he was facing the camera?

I’m not trying to be an a-hole or defend Baldwin. I guess I’m just trying to interpret from the point of view of people who are not familiar with guns, and who believe someone when they hand them a prop gun and indicate that it’s safe. They are expecting it to fire the usual blanks.
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No actor should ever handle a gun if they have not had gun safety training. Also, there’s no such thing as a prop gun that fires. If it shoots it’s a firearm. The prop gun is just an attempt to make it sound less deadly. And nobody with any training would take someone’s word, they’d check it themselves. And lastly even during filming you don’t have offscreen people down range from a trigger pull. You just don’t. Even in scenes where someone is shot, they are filmed from an angle where it appears the gun is pointing at the other actors but actually is not.

As an advocate of firearms and their safety this really upsets me.

This was absolutely ridiculous and avoidable. There’s no defense for it and someone should be charged with some type of criminal negligence.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
No actor should ever handle a gun if they have not had gun safety training. Also, there’s no such thing as a prop gun that fires. If it shoots it’s a firearm. The prop gun is just an attempt to make it sound less deadly. And nobody with any training would take someone’s word, they’d check it themselves. And lastly even during filming you don’t have offscreen people down range from a trigger pull. You just don’t. Even in scenes where someone is shot, they are filmed from an angle where it appears the gun is pointing at the other actors but actually is not.

As an advocate of firearms and their safety this really upsets me.

This was absolutely ridiculous and avoidable. There’s no defense for it and someone should be charged with some type of criminal negligence.
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I read a comment by one of the victim’s friends, I think, criticizing the lack of safety awareness in Hollywood. Bruce Lee’s son Brandon died in much the same way in 1993. Nothing much seems to have changed since then.

Brandon Lee - Wikipedia
 
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VolNExile said:
I read a comment by one of the victim’s friends, I think, criticizing the lack of safety awareness in Hollywood. Bruce Lee’s son Brandon died in much the same way in 1993. Nothing much seems to have changed since then.

Brandon Lee - Wikipedia
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I love firearms.
They are fun to shoot and collect.

They have to be taken very seriously. Not just at the range but everywhere.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
No actor should ever handle a gun if they have not had gun safety training. Also, there’s no such thing as a prop gun that fires. If it shoots it’s a firearm. The prop gun is just an attempt to make it sound less deadly. And nobody with any training would take someone’s word, they’d check it themselves. And lastly even during filming you don’t have offscreen people down range from a trigger pull. You just don’t. Even in scenes where someone is shot, they are filmed from an angle where it appears the gun is pointing at the other actors but actually is not.

As an advocate of firearms and their safety this really upsets me.

This was absolutely ridiculous and avoidable. There’s no defense for it and someone should be charged with some type of criminal negligence.
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My original questions stand.
1) Why were there live rounds on a movie set?
2) Why did he not check to see that the firearm was loaded properly for him to do what he was supposed to?
 
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hmanvolfan said:
It’s been reported several people working on the set walked off about an hour before the shooting happened protesting the unsafe conditions on the set because of he way they were handling the firearms.
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NBC news at 530 led with story anddidnt bury fact that guns had been mishandled
baldwin also was one of movie's producer
 
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