rajon neal needs to start at running back. period.

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QUOTE=cleonard1;5560544]That's bull****.All this negative talk will stop very soon. He might not run like Lattimore but who does.The kid is not soft and he had the best attitude you can have when you have played a position all your career and all of a sudden you r moved.That's alot to take in.
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justingroves said:
I assume you're either a relative or a family friend of Neal.
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Cleaonard is right...Neal would NEVER have turned down Kick return duty. You guys speculate on what goes on. Have you actually talked to him? That's what I thought.

Oh and in case you're wondering...I'm not a friend but I have watched this young man since he was a Freshman in High School. He has always done whatever the coaches asked of him. I'm sure that hasn't changed.
 
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Dooley has unambiguously shown he'll put anyone out on the field if they've earned the position in practice. This has been clearly demonstrated by the influx of Fr he's willing to play at any position where the player warrants it. If Neal can't break into the starting role it's because he hasn't, at least to this point, shown he's earned it.
 
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Patriotdad said:
cleonard1 said:
That's bull****.All this negative talk will stop very soon. He might not run like Lattimore but who does.The kid is not soft and he had the best attitude you can have when you have played a position all your career and all of a sudden you r moved.That's alot to take in.
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Cleaonard is right...Neal would NEVER have turned down Kick return duty. You guys speculate on what goes on. Have you actually talked to him? That's what I thought.

Oh and in case you're wondering...I'm not a friend but I have watched this young man since he was a Freshman in High School. He has always done whatever the coaches asked of him. I'm sure that hasn't changed.
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I don't understand why you're so pissed off. The way cleaonard takes up for Neal makes it seem he's a family member or close friend.

I doubt Neal refused to try his hand at returning kicks. Does he really want to be a kick returner? I don't know, but it's a huge void and a quick way to see the field for him.

I'm not knocking the kid or making smartass comments. I'm not questioning the kid's desire to play.
 
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hndog609 said:
Dooley has unambiguously shown he'll put anyone out on the field if they've earned the position in practice. This has been clearly demonstrated by the influx of Fr he's willing to play at any position where the player warrants it. If Neal can't break into the starting role it's because he hasn't, at least to this point, shown he's earned it.
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+1

There's obviously some skill that he is lacking in running the ball. Period.


But i'd still be intrested in just seeing him in a game.
 
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I have no idea how people can think that Dooley is keeping some amazing play maker on the sidelines out of......spite? dislike of the kid? I mean get serious. There are obvious reasons. With the problems we have running the ball there is NO WAY we are keeping some superstar RB on the bench. And him not wanting to return KOs is just more evidence to that fact.
 
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cleonard1 said:
That's bull****.All this negative talk will stop very soon. He might not run like Lattimore but who does.The kid is not soft and he had the best attitude you can have when you have played a position all your career and all of a sudden you r moved.That's alot to take in.
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You are relatively new so you get the benefit of the doubt.

Almost everyone here posts alot of "opinion" blended with a few facts. Many (including me) blather on and on and are later embarrassed by being wrong.

Larry is one of the few guys here with genuine inside contacts with the program. He does not go out on limbs and very, very, very seldom states an opinion without specifically saying it is.

I am pulling for Neal but if Larry says that attitude has kept him off the field or the coaches consider him soft then you can pretty much bank it.
 
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Neal looked really good at times last year, so I don't see why this is so far fetched. Obviously Poole has shown nothing so far this year and all the Marlin Lane hype was a bit premature, so I don't see what the big deal is. We need big plays from the running game and that's the kind of speed Neal has.
 
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Patriotdad said:
Oh and in case you're wondering...I'm not a friend but I have watched this young man since he was a Freshman in High School. He has always done whatever the coaches asked of him. I'm sure that hasn't changed.
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By every account I have seen, Askew was a good kid and great HSFB player. His physical talent was never questioned. For whatever reason, he either could not or did not wish to compete in college.

I hope that is not the case with Neal... but it does happen.
 
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sjt18 said:
You are relatively new so you get the benefit of the doubt.

Almost everyone here posts alot of "opinion" blended with a few facts. Many (including me) blather on and on and are later embarrassed by being wrong.

Larry is one of the few guys here with genuine inside contacts with the program. He does not go out on limbs and very, very, very seldom states an opinion without specifically saying it is.

I am pulling for Neal but if Larry says that attitude has kept him off the field or the coaches consider him soft then you can pretty much bank it.
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Ditto. For the Neal defenders there could be shades of gray to this situation like maybe Neal wants to be 100% healthy. In the end though there is ample smoke between coach quotes, Larry, and RN not seeing the field to say it isn't all on coaches just keeping a good player down.
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I'm thinking we need to get someone else in and get them ready for next season like we did with Bray last season. Get off Pooles jock strap. Last yr was a fluke, like Fulmer, Pooles good days are behind us. I know it sucks and hard to swallow, but it is what it is.
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This entire thread is full of fail.. if he was ready to go in and was better then poole then he would already be starting.. God I don't even understand why I should need to point this out..or why I bother as none of you will understand
 
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I didn't know about his attitude or softness though. That would make sense considering his abilities and why he isn't on the field more.
 
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These guys obviously don't know who Justin and Larry are! Cuz when it comes to this board they are the most trusted posters! They actually know what they're talking about because of inside connections! I applaud them for their consistency defending Neal
 
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ImportedVoL said:
This entire thread is full of fail.. if he was ready to go in and was better then poole then he would already be starting.. God I don't even understand why I should need to point this out..or why I bother as none of you will understand
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Well who had the best spring and practices? According to everything I have read it was never Poole. Maybe he is there because of last years stats, or because he is the only sr. on O and DD is doing it based along those lines
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VolForLife83 said:
Well who had the best spring and practices? According to everything I have read it was never Poole. Maybe he is there because of last years stats, or because he is the only sr. on O and DD is doing it based along those lines
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You cracked the case Sherlock. Dooley has consistently shown that he will not play underclassman over juniors and seniors.....:whistling:
 
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VolForLife83 said:
I'm thinking we need to get someone else in and get them ready for next season like we did with Bray last season. Get off Pooles jock strap. Last yr was a fluke, like Fulmer, Pooles good days are behind us. I know it sucks and hard to swallow, but it is what it is.
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Dude... Really?
 
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therickbol said:
You cracked the case Sherlock. Dooley has consistently shown that he will not play underclassman over juniors and seniors.....:whistling:
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Knew that would be said, but really when you think about it Poole is never mentioned as having the better practice, nor did he have a better spring. And before season started all we heard was how good Lane looked. Not only from Coaches, but players too. So you have to wonder if he is sticking with Poole based on last years fluke and the need of experience and leadership on O
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VolForLife83 said:
Knew that would be said, but really when you think about it Poole is never mentioned as having the better practice, nor did he have a better spring. And before season started all we heard was how good Lane looked. Not only from Coaches, but players too. So you have to wonder if he is sticking with Poole based on last years fluke and the need of experience and leadership on O
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Also he is always saying Poole steps up in big games. Maybe he thinks despite the bad practices that Poole is bound to get it going again. I mean based off last yr you kinda have to go with Poole, but its not working so now you kinda have to move someone else back there to see. We all knew Simms needed to be replaced with Bray just like we all know Poole needs be replaced by a healthy Neal, or Lane.
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VolForLife83 said:
Knew that would be said, but really when you think about it Poole is never mentioned as having the better practice, nor did he have a better spring. And before season started all we heard was how good Lane looked. Not only from Coaches, but players too. So you have to wonder if he is sticking with Poole based on last years fluke and the need of experience and leadership on O
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LOL@U. Last year was a "fluke"? Three 100 yd games vs top 25 opponents.... six 100 yd games plus another 99... give me that kind of "fluke" anytime. When you only play four top 25 teams... that is pretty consistent too.

Poole has shown the coaches more in practice. When you look at stats and such coming from practice or scrimmage, you have to balance those with the situations they put the players in. Sometimes... the results are more of a reflection of the coaches challenging some guys more than others based on what they're ready to handle.

You really don't have to "wonder" about anything. Neal and Lane have both gotten opportunities in games.... and have certainly done no better. You can also take note of the UF game. Poole was hurt. Neal didn't go in... and Lane got almost no carries.

Poole may not be great or even good right now... but he is most definitely the only one to have earned the coaches' confidence.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Also he is always saying Poole steps up in big games. Maybe he thinks despite the bad practices that Poole is bound to get it going again. I mean based off last yr you kinda have to go with Poole, but its not working so now you kinda have to move someone else back there to see. We all knew Simms needed to be replaced with Bray just like we all know Poole needs be replaced by a healthy Neal, or Lane.
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Right... your OL isn't opening holes or holding blocks. They're consistently missing assignments. Your QB may not be getting the team into the right play. WR's had the QB screaming at them on the sideline for not run blocking.... no one else has done anything either... but the answer is to replace the only guy out of the whole group to ever show that they can get the job done vs the SEC.
 
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sjt18 said:
Right... your OL isn't opening holes or holding blocks. They're consistently missing assignments. Your QB may not be getting the team into the right play. WR's had the QB screaming at them on the sideline for not run blocking.... no one else has done anything either... but the answer is to replace the only guy out of the whole group to ever show that they can get the job done vs the SEC.
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I have seen Poole have plenty of chances to break big plays, but fails. Its not always the line. Is his bad vision, not breaking tackles, or trying to run over someone when he could have got a chunk if he saw the open field to his left or right. IDC.what anyone says about last yr. He didn't get those yards by constantly grinding it out. It was a busted play of 20+ yrds here and there. He hardy ever MADE anything happen. He looked good against Oregon that was about it. I pray he proves me wrong. Disagree all you want, but like I said before, its like people who can't get over Fulmer. TP ain't got it
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