Quote From Simms

#151
#151
TNBV said:
My point is that Simms is in a position, due to our lack of overall talent, including his to constantly feel as if he must force something to happen. In reality, after about the end of the first quarter or half, he does. Feeling you must force a good play lowers the performance % of ALL athletes. It happens at all positions. How often do you see a QB throw is first interception of the game in the last minutes while trying to lead a last quarter comeback drive. I really don't know any other way to explain it to you, but you seem to want to believe that any extra pressure on Simms in our current situation is all due to what he is lacking. I disagree.
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I do believe there would be less pressure on him if he were more skilled and made better decisions. I do believe it is those athletes who can perform under pressure that win championships. There is no right or wrong here. Just your opinion and mine.
 
#152
#152
TNBV said:
My point is that Simms is in a position, due to our lack of overall talent, including his to constantly feel as if he must force something to happen. In reality, after about the end of the first quarter or half, he does. Feeling you must force a good play lowers the performance % of ALL athletes. It happens at all positions. How often do you see a QB throw is first interception of the game in the last minutes while trying to lead a last quarter comeback drive. I really don't know any other way to explain it to you, but you seem to want to believe that any extra pressure on Simms in our current situation is all due to what he is lacking. I disagree.
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I don't see him forcing much. I see him hesitating, making bad reads, using poor foot work, locking onto the receiver he's throwing too, and throwing inaccurate passes. If that is due to all of the mental pressure he's under, then all Dooley needs to do is give him a Zanax and problem solved. You should spoken up sooner and saved us all this nightmarish season we are currently in.
 
#153
#153
Simms can't see over the line to read defenses and when he does throw it's so far off target that the receiver would have to practically become The Flash to be able to get to it. Not to mention he tips off defenses where he's going to throw because he can't keep his eyes and head turned away from the receiver from the time he leaves the huddle.

He's a terrible leader and I really hate to hear how people keep saying that he's "such a good leader". His attitude on the field reminds me of Dooley's in the postgame conferences - blame someone else, deflect any responsibility, and chalk it up to being a tough spot. Yes, it holds an element of truth but it only works for so long and part of the criticism still needs to rest on the player/coach. Plus, he's got that "My dad is Phil Simms" attitude going for him, so I'd be just fine with seeing Bray and Nance move ahead of him on the depth chart.

Ok, Im harsh on Simms.....
 
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#155
#155
Joe Vols said:
I do believe there would be less pressure on him if he were more skilled and made better decisions. I do believe it is those athletes who can perform under pressure that win championships. There is no right or wrong here. Just your opinion and mine.
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Athletes, or quarterbacks in this situation, would not win any championships with the pass protection Simms has had this year. Poor decisions come from being rushed and forced to make a play.
 
#156
#156
FuriousVOL said:
Simms can't see over the line to read defenses and when he does throw it's so far off target that the receiver would have to practically become The Flash to be able to get to it. Not to mention he tips off defenses where he's going to throw because he can't keep his eyes and head turned away from the receiver from the time he leaves the huddle.

He's a terrible leader and I really hate to hear how people keep saying that he's "such a good leader". His attitude on the field reminds me of Dooley's in the postgame conferences - blame someone else, deflect any responsibility, and chalk it up to being a tough spot. Yes, it holds an element of truth but it only works for so long and part of the criticism still needs to rest on the player/coach. Plus, he's got that "My dad is Phil Simms" attitude going for him, so I'd be just fine with seeing Bray and Nance move ahead of him on the depth chart.
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We must be watching a different quarterback and coach then. I have yet to see either of ours deflect blame on someone else.
 
#157
#157
phowell23 said:
I would be surprised if Worley didn't redshirt next year. With Simms and Bray fighting for starting QB spot one of those 2 will end up as the backup, then you also have Nash Nance as a potential dark horse.

Speaking of Justin Worley, check out this article on him: Northwestern quarterback rewriting state record book
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You may be right. I'm not going out on a limb and claiming Worley will be the starter. I just think Bray hasn't shown enough yet to convince Dooley he can be the starter next year. Not yet at least. I think the main reason Dooley is giving Bray reps is to help determine how he'll be able to handle Worley next season. If Bray continues to struggle throughout the rest of the season, I doubt Worley gets redshirted. If Bray gets it together and shows promise in meaningful snaps, it will make redshirting Worley an easier decision. Keep in mind that Bray is not a Dooley recruit whereas Worley is. I don't think Dooley is like Kiffin where he'd play his recruit no matter what, but if everything else is equal I could see any head coach going with their recruit over a previous coach's recruit.
 
#158
#158
OaklandTnVol said:
Athletes, or quarterbacks in this situation, would not win any championships with the pass protection Simms has had this year. Poor decisions come from being rushed and forced to make a play.
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See Jay Cutler and the Bears. He knows how Simms is feeling....
 
#161
#161
FuriousVOL said:
He's a terrible leader and I really hate to hear how people keep saying that he's "such a good leader". His attitude on the field reminds me of Dooley's in the postgame conferences - blame someone else, deflect any responsibility, and chalk it up to being a tough spot. Yes, it holds an element of truth but it only works for so long and part of the criticism still needs to rest on the player/coach. Plus, he's got that "My dad is Phil Simms" attitude going for him, so I'd be just fine with seeing Bray and Nance move ahead of him on the depth chart.
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so, do you have special access to the ut locker room? how do you know if simms is a bad leader or not unless you're an insider to the team? it's borderline ridiculous to make that kind of a statement when you don't even know how his teammates react to him.
 
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#163
#163
I agree with what you said no one knows what kind of leader he is unless there out there with those guys. DD appears to be a smart man and his staff alike have been around football and know the game. Im sure if they need some assistance they won't be looking on here for it. Give them a chance they are young, and remember last year everyone was ready to hang Crompton out to dry and then he started looking better. We are not going to win a title so chill out. Give the coaching staff a few years before you start judging. Its called a rebuilding program for a reason, you can't build things overnight it takes time espically a championship team.
 
#164
#164
OaklandTnVol said:
Athletes, or quarterbacks in this situation, would not win any championships with the pass protection Simms has had this year. Poor decisions come from being rushed and forced to make a play.
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No one thinks we should be winning championships. I am just saying Simms hasn't played good enough to seperate himself as the starter and to keep a promising FR on the bench.
 
#165
#165
i think you all criticize simms way to much i believe if you are so much better than him you should go play quarterback and let us criticize you for how terrible you are and lets see what you say than because to be honest he has kept us in alot of games and yes LSU game he kept us in it! so stop criticizing because no one is perfect.
 
#166
#166
Bray proved his leadership when he looked like a bobble head at the line and didn't know what to do. He is to young to be playing with the big boys this year. Oh wait maybe I should not have refrenced bobble heads might be all over the news or twisted into something else. :eek:lol:
 
#167
#167
duckman398686 said:
so, do you have special access to the ut locker room? how do you know if simms is a bad leader or not unless you're an insider to the team? it's borderline ridiculous to make that kind of a statement when you don't even know how his teammates react to him.
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Listen to the players themselves. Sounds an awful lot like they are rallying around Bray and distancing themselves from Simms. Maybe they are doing it just out of frustration with the current state of the team?
 
#168
#168
what have they been saying, though, exactly? there may have been some players talking up bray a little but that doesn't necessarily translate into them thinking that simms is a bad leader.
 
#169
#169
Good point duckman. Building up one does not mean crap on the other. I keep saying it but no one will admit it. Last year this board was the same on Crompton then he had a pretty strong finish. Can you say fair weather fans!!!!!!!
 
#170
#170
duckman398686 said:
what have they been saying, though, exactly? there may have been some players talking up bray a little but that doesn't necessarily translate into them thinking that simms is a bad leader.
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Well perhaps my wording was too strong previously, but if he (Simms) were such a good leader, I don't think we'd be hearing the other players (especially Gerald Jones) talking Bray up and praising his ability if he were to get behind center. I just don't think Simms leadership abilities, if he has them, are strong enough to overcome his shortcomings as a quarterback. In my mind, that may be why we've heard players getting talkative about Bray getting a shot behind center. Dooley apparently feels like Bray gives them a shot at winning (or building him up for the future), enough to actually start splitting duty at QB. Again, it may be the players are looking for any kind of spark to get this team going and with Simms mistakes (not entirely of his own doing, admittedly) they feel that a change of pace is needed.

But you are right, I think my original statement was a bit too harsh and misdirected.
 
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FuriousVOL said:
Well perhaps my wording was too strong previously, but if he (Simms) were such a good leader, I don't think we'd be hearing the other players (especially Gerald Jones) talking Bray up and praising his ability if he were to get behind center. I just don't think Simms leadership abilities, if he has them, are strong enough to overcome his shortcomings as a quarterback. In my mind, that may be why we've heard players getting talkative about Bray getting a shot behind center. Dooley apparently feels like Bray gives them a shot at winning (or building him up for the future), enough to actually start splitting duty at QB. Again, it may be the players are looking for any kind of spark to get this team going and with Simms mistakes (not entirely of his own doing, admittedly) they feel that a change of pace is needed.

But you are right, I think my original statement was a bit too harsh and misdirected.
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I recall an interview with Gooch and he spoke highly of Simms leadership and how tough he was. How at the LSU game he got drilled by a D-lineman from LSU and was told to "get ready that he'd be here all day", and Simms popped right up, got in his face, and said "I'll be here too." Gooch said that was impressive and inspiring to know he QB was ready to play. I think Jones and Gooch were just talking up their teammates and not stating one was a better leader than the other. Lets not read more into something than we need to. Not that anyone on this board would do such a thing.
 
#172
#172
Bray is on hit away from playing on a regular basis. Simms is tough for sure but he hurt his knee Saturday. I'm glad it did not put him out. DD had to put Bray in and give him a few snaps. It only make sense.
 
#173
#173
PeytonBerry said:
"I believe my performance in the game wasn't great, but it was good enough to show everyone the reason why I'm the starter and the leader of the offense,"

I have heard a few quotes like this from Simms, and honestly it kind of rubs me the wrong way. They sound derrogatory towards his fellow teammate, and he has not performed well enough to justify that kind of cockiness.

I'm sure many of you may disagree, and that is fine. Let me know what you think.
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most quarterbacks are cocky which is why many are successful. Has Simms has enough success to be "cocky"? Always open for debate and there is porbably not a good answer in regards to that. Doesn't bother me but I'm rarely bothered by something someone says which doesn't impact me.

I will make this point on the Simms / Bray debate. Once the decision is made by the staff that Bray should get the starting reps over Simms due to performance, they have to be damn sure that is the right choice. Because if Bray goes down hurt, then you turn back to the guy you have just deflated by replacing him.

So you have a guy who may not have the drive necessary to lead the team. That is always a huge factor when you replace starting quarterbacks. You have to be right with that choice.
 
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#174
OaklandTnVol said:
I recall an interview with Gooch and he spoke highly of Simms leadership and how tough he was. How at the LSU game he got drilled by a D-lineman from LSU and was told to "get ready that he'd be here all day", and Simms popped right up, got in his face, and said "I'll be here too." Gooch said that was impressive and inspiring to know he QB was ready to play. I think Jones and Gooch were just talking up their teammates and not stating one was a better leader than the other. Lets not read more into something than we need to. Not that anyone on this board would do such a thing.
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Just because he's numb to pain because he has enjoyed the medicanal benefits of his personal choice of herb doesn't mean he's a leader. just means he's thick headed.
 
#175
#175
UNAVol89 said:
This might sound harsh, but Crompton sounded more like a leader his senior year than Simms does.
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Really?

I can't believe so many people piled on Simms. I think if he had said something meally-mouthed / team-speak people would have said, "Well that proves he's not ready to fight for his job! Start Bray!"

I hope whichever QB gives us the best chance to win starts and plays the whole game until it is out of hand one way or the other.

But I'm not sure VN believes in QB competition.
 
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