Quinton Chievous Against Syracuse

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dal9 said:
"Perfect...this is the quip that will finally show all of Martin's defenders how right I am!" he thought, chuckling as finished typing "...zo"
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Now your response above to me makes sense.

One thing I won't be is too biased to be able to discuss what happens or should've happened on the court.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I don't know why that's crazy. Q should've been playing all year. Basketball is about matchups and some nights, Maymon wasn't a good matchup, so you play your better one when it calls for it, or at least the one that won't get you killed everytime down the court.
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I don't know...benching Maymon in the first minute sounds like a move you make in a video game, not real life
 
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dal9 said:
I don't know...benching Maymon in the first minute sounds like a move you make in a video game, not real life
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It's that line of thinking and inability (or just blatant, stubborn refusal) to make in-game adjustments that cost Tennessee several wins against beatable over the course of the last three seasons.
 
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dal9 said:
I don't know...benching Maymon in the first minute sounds like a move you make in a video game, not real life
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At least I have a reason and plan. Sounds like you play a guy in a bad mismatch because getting a better one makes no sense. Which makes no sense.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
At least I have a reason and plan. Sounds like you play a guy in a bad mismatch because getting a better one makes no sense. Which makes no sense.
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I think Martin played it basically right, by cutting back some on Maymon's PT, after giving him a real shot.

You got to think about the psychological impact on the rest of the team of yanking Maymon right away.

And you don't want to get a reputation as the coach who yanked--in the last game of his career, after a couple of bad plays--a senior leader who came back after a devastating knee infection and carried the team on his back for much of the year. That kind of thing is not going to help with recruiting.

You could even say, that with all he'd put into the team, Maymon was owed the chance to fight through it, even if it were true that it lowered the chances of winning.
 
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dal9 said:
I think Martin played it basically right, by cutting back some on Maymon's PT, after giving him a real shot.

You got to think about the psychological impact on the rest of the team of yanking Maymon right away.

And you don't want to get a reputation as the coach who yanked--in the last game of his career, after a couple of bad plays--a senior leader who came back after a devastating knee infection and carried the team on his back for much of the year. That kind of thing is not going to help with recruiting.

You could even say, that with all he'd put into the team, Maymon was owed the chance to fight through it, even if it were true that it lowered the chances of winning.
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Pretty much disagree with all of that. Your job is to win games and make the adjustments to win, not to play people because you feel like you owe him something. That's just plain stupid.
 
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dal9 said:
I think Martin played it basically right, by cutting back some on Maymon's PT, after giving him a real shot.

You got to think about the psychological impact on the rest of the team of yanking Maymon right away.

And you don't want to get a reputation as the coach who yanked--in the last game of his career, after a couple of bad plays--a senior leader who came back after a devastating knee infection and carried the team on his back for much of the year. That kind of thing is not going to help with recruiting.

You could even say, that with all he'd put into the team, Maymon was owed the chance to fight through it, even if it were true that it lowered the chances of winning.
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I don't think people are saying he should have sat the bench all year. But that it likely wouldn't have been his last game, had the coach put in someone else against Mich to check GR3. jmo
 
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dal9 said:
I think Martin played it basically right, by cutting back some on Maymon's PT, after giving him a real shot.

You got to think about the psychological impact on the rest of the team of yanking Maymon right away.

And you don't want to get a reputation as the coach who yanked--in the last game of his career, after a couple of bad plays--a senior leader who came back after a devastating knee infection and carried the team on his back for much of the year. That kind of thing is not going to help with recruiting.

You could even say, that with all he'd put into the team, Maymon was owed the chance to fight through it, even if it were true that it lowered the chances of winning.
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Almost every bit of that sounds emotionally driven. Martin wasn't paid to make emotional decisions. He was paid to make practical decisions that gave his team the best chance to win. The easy thing to do was play Maymon and hope for the best. The hard thing was to bench your senior leader in potentially his last game for the sake of the other 14 guys.
 
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Lefteye said:
I don't think people are saying he should have sat the bench all year. But that it likely wouldn't have been his last game, had the coach put in someone else against Mich to check GR3. jmo
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Just curious but who from last years roster could keep up with GR3? Josh was on Staukas (sp?) and McRae wasn't going to guard their 3/4 man.

Nvm. The answer would be to put Armani Moore in. I can't recall how much he played or who he guarded
 
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iKrager said:
Just curious but who from last years roster could keep up with GR3? Josh was on Staukas (sp?) and McRae wasn't going to guard their 3/4 man.

Nvm. The answer would be to put Armani Moore in. I can't recall how much he played or who he guarded
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You nailed it w/ Money, but even Davis would have had a better chance of staying in front than Maymon.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Almost every bit of that sounds emotionally driven. Martin wasn't paid to make emotional decisions. He was paid to make practical decisions that gave his team the best chance to win. The easy thing to do was play Maymon and hope for the best. The hard thing was to bench your senior leader in potentially his last game for the sake of the other 14 guys.
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Basketball is emotional game played by real people, not robots. Yanking Maymon after a couple possessions--giving up that quickly on what worked all year, and the style the team was built around--would have harmed the team emotionally. He only played 14 minutes as is.
 
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dal9 said:
Basketball is emotional game played by real people, not robots. Yanking Maymon after a couple possessions--giving up that quickly on what worked all year, and the style the team was built around--would have harmed the team emotionally. He only played 14 minutes as is.
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typical participation trophy thought process
 
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dal9 said:
Basketball is emotional game played by real people, not robots. Yanking Maymon after a couple possessions--giving up that quickly on what worked all year, and the style the team was built around--would have harmed the team emotionally. He only played 14 minutes as is.
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hokum
 
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dal9 said:
I think Martin played it basically right, by cutting back some on Maymon's PT, after giving him a real shot.

You got to think about the psychological impact on the rest of the team of yanking Maymon right away.

And you don't want to get a reputation as the coach who yanked--in the last game of his career, after a couple of bad plays--a senior leader who came back after a devastating knee infection and carried the team on his back for much of the year. That kind of thing is not going to help with recruiting.

You could even say, that with all he'd put into the team, Maymon was owed the chance to fight through it, even if it were true that it lowered the chances of winning.
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It didn't lower their chances of winning, lol! UT lost by 2 to a very good Michigan team. Maymon only played 17 min. Those 2 points 'could've' been made up elsewhere. Dem's da breaks.
 
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dal9 said:
Basketball is emotional game played by real people, not robots. Yanking Maymon after a couple possessions--giving up that quickly on what worked all year, and the style the team was built around--would have harmed the team emotionally. He only played 14 minutes as is.
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Your "Hoosiers" approach would probably make for a great Lifetime movie, but it simply isn't practical to keep forcing a square peg into a round hole without at least trying something else in crunch time. If you want to speak emotionally about it, Martin could have possibly extended Maymon's career by one game by trying another (unconventional perhaps) strategy instead of strictly playing it by the book.
 
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Happy for him...thought Zo did him dirty while here. We could've used him this year.
 
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