Questions For The Wannabe AD's

#27
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Sudden Impact said:
2 points

Members should have a 500 post restriction before they are allow to start a thread
or Members with less than 500 post that post threads like this should be banned for a month.
It is either a kid, a troll, or drug/alcohol related. In this case it may be all three combined.
A member since 2014 must have remembered his password. I guess he slept for 11 years because he does not remember the 14 years before CJH got here.

Some need to realize that SEC schools have fired not 1, but 4 with 3 possibly moving on or in the hot seat Ky, SCe & Sark (looking around the NFL). We could have possibly internal SEC moves as well. Drink and Kiffin. 9 possible moves overall.
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So if you post 500+ whiney posts you apparently think that makes you smarter? Interesting!
Posts like yours is the very reason I rarely visit this site but thanks for reminding me
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Thing is, most of the loudest complainers donate zero to very little to the program. Their participation consists of adjusting the rabbit ears and making sure there's a case of Mich Ultra on hand.
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Very true. I have memories of complainers like that intimidating a weak AD with the effect of almost destroying our football program.
Dont think that will happen now due to a competant AD. But still have no love for the habitual complainers.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
I can think of plenty who would want that job, but they aren't upgrades.
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Durkin, austin armstrong, Blake Baker, and maybe even Dave Arranda if he is let go at Baylor would all be upgrades and are very good recruiters as well.

Dont get me wrong Banks has his moments but his safeties have been a liability since he got here as has the secondary minus one season. He got a lot of goodwill after last season though and his D’s have been average every other season.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Durkin, austin armstrong, Blake Baker, and maybe even Dave Arranda if he is let go at Baylor would all be upgrades and are very good recruiters as well.

Dont get me wrong Banks has his moments but his safeties have been a liability since he got here as has the secondary minus one season. He got a lot of goodwill after last season though and his D’s have been average every other season.
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DJ Durkin is trash. He has had one good year with Auburn, but his A&M and Ole Miss defenses were crap.

And once again, you have to have these coaches WANT to be DC in Heupel's system that emphasizes keeping the defense on the field as much as possible.
 
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roadvol said:
1) Suppose we fire Haupel who supposedly has a $37.5 million buyout.
We then would have to empty the bank to hire a "bettet coach".
Where's the NIL money coming from to buy future players and transfers?
2) With vacancies at UF, UCLA, Auburn ,Arkansas and Penn St what reputable coach would raplace a coach who had pulled UT out of a dumpster fire and won 30 games over the last 3 years?
The answer is no one unless they have an iron clad $50-$100 million buyout.
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Why do you start this crap? Heupel doesn't need to be fired. If he doesn't get rid of some assistant coaches, he will be in a year or two
 
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JMSqb11 said:
DJ Durkin is trash. He has had one good year with Auburn, but his A&M and Ole Miss defenses were crap.

And once again, you have to have these coaches WANT to be DC in Heupel's system that emphasizes keeping the defense on the field as much as possible.
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durkin has had top defenses everywhere he’s been. He’s also a heckuva recruiter. We would be lucky to upgrade
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Now you’re cherry picking. He was top 4 at mIchigan
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DJ Durkin coached at Michigan 10 years ago. This whole convo centered around his most recent tenure in the SEC which started in 2020 with Ole Miss then A&M and now Auburn.

There is no cherry picking at all.

Literally my comment which is very specific to the last 5 seasons and this current season: "DJ Durkin is trash. He has had one good year with Auburn, but his A&M and Ole Miss defenses were crap."

Literally my next comment: "Durkin has never had a top 10 defense in the time he's been coaching at Ole Miss, A&M, Auburn."


If you are having to invoke a season 10 years ago and a school that was never part of the discussion to have a debate about current performance, you are losing.... Hold this L
 
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JMSqb11 said:
DJ Durkin coached at Michigan 10 years ago. This whole convo centered around his most recent tenure in the SEC which started in 2020 with Ole Miss then A&M and now Auburn.

There is no cherry picking at all.

Literally my comment which is very specific to the last 5 seasons and this current season: "DJ Durkin is trash. He has had one good year with Auburn, but his A&M and Ole Miss defenses were crap."

Literally my next comment: "Durkin has never had a top 10 defense in the time he's been coaching at Ole Miss, A&M, Auburn."


If you are having to invoke a season 10 years ago and a school that was never part of the discussion to have a debate about current performance, you are losing.... Hold this L
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Since you love stats….

In his first season at Texas A&M, Durkin’s defense led the nation allowing the fewest passing yards per game at 156.2. The Aggies held opponents under 150 yards through the air in six games, including three games under 100 yards. Texas A&M ranked No. 17 in the nation and No. 4 in the SEC in passing defense efficiency (117.10) and ranked No. 22 in the country allowing 20.7 points per game, which ranked fourth in the SEC.

In addition to his significant experience on the field, Durkin has been equally accomplished on the recruiting trail. The Rivals’ Recruiter of the Year in 2012, Durkin has helped ink nine top-25 classes, including five which ranked in the top 10 nationally. During his time with the Gators, Durkin helped land four-straight top-11 recruiting classes and nine five-star prospects.

Prior to his time in Oxford, Durkin spent one season in the NFL as a consultant for the Atlanta Falcons in 2018 after serving as the head coach at Maryland for the 2016 and 2017 seasons. He doubled the Terrapins’ win total during his first season at the helm and excelled on the recruiting trail, bringing in consecutive top-30 signing classes for the first time in program history.

Prior to his head coaching debut, Durkin served as the defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at Michigan, leading a defensive unit that ranked fourth in the country. Under Durkin, the Wolverines limited opponents to 17.2 points per game in 2015, in addition to shutting out three consecutive opponents – the longest such streak at Michigan in 35 years.

Durkin’s immediate impact in Ann Arbor was also displayed in player development. Michigan had nine defensive All-Big Ten honorees, including a pair of first-team defensive backs: Jourdan Lewis and Jabrill Peppers. In addition, three Wolverines (Ryan Glasgow, Lewis and Peppers,) were named semifinalists for national defensive awards in 2015.

As the defensive coordinator at Florida from 2013-14, Durkin led the Gators to consecutive top-15 rankings in total defense with the 15th-best mark in the country in 2014 (329.0 yards/game) and the eighth-best (314.2 yards/game) in 2013.

Florida’s 2014 team finished the year ranked in the top 10 in the nation in yards allowed per play (4.45), yards allowed per rush attempt (3.16) and yards allowed per pass attempt (5.9).

The group was highlighted by All-SEC First Team selections Dante Fowler Jr. and Vernon Hargreaves, along with second-team all-conference honoree Antonio Morrison. Fowler was subsequently selected third overall in the 2015 NFL Draft by the Jacksonville Jaguars.

In Durkin’s first season as defensive coordinator, Florida finished first in the SEC and seventh in the country in pass defense (171.8 yards per game). The Gators were sixth nationally in first downs allowed (16.1 per game) and 15th in scoring defense (21.1 points per game), while allowing only 27 touchdowns, the sixth-fewest in the nation in 2013. Defensive tackle Dominique Easley was drafted by the New England Patriots in the first round of the 2014 NFL Draft.

From 2010-2012, Durkin served as special teams coordinator and linebackers coach at Florida. Durkin’s coaching on special teams helped produce punter Chas Henry, the winner of the Ray Guy Award in 2011, and kicker Caleb Sturgis, a two-time finalist for the Lou Groza Award.

Prior to Florida, Durkin spent three seasons at Stanford coaching defensive ends and special teams. Under Durkin’s tutelage, Stanford’s defensive ends helped the Cardinal rank 11th nationally in sacks per game in 2007 and 2009. Durkin also helped the Cardinal bring in its highest ranked recruiting class in eight years in 2009.

He’s clearly an upgrade which is how I started my post that you just want to argue about.

Now im officially done.
 
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VOLfrombama said:
Since you love stats….

In his first season at Texas A&M, Durkin’s defense led the nation allowing the fewest passing yards per game at 156.2. The Aggies held opponents under 150 yards through the air in six games, including three games under 100 yards. Texas A&M ranked No. 17 in the nation and No. 4 in the SEC in passing defense efficiency (117.10) and ranked No. 22 in the country allowing 20.7 points per game, which ranked fourth in the SEC.

In addition to his significant experience on the field, Durkin has been equally accomplished on the recruiting trail. The Rivals’ Recruiter of the Year in 2012, Durkin has helped ink nine top-25 classes, including five which ranked in the top 10 nationally. During his time with the Gators, Durkin helped land four-straight top-11 recruiting classes and nine five-star prospects.

Prior to his time in Oxford, Durkin spent one season in the NFL as a consultant for the Atlanta Falcons in 2018 after serving as the head coach at Maryland for the 2016 and 2017 seasons. He doubled the Terrapins’ win total during his first season at the helm and excelled on the recruiting trail, bringing in consecutive top-30 signing classes for the first time in program history.

Prior to his head coaching debut, Durkin served as the defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at Michigan, leading a defensive unit that ranked fourth in the country. Under Durkin, the Wolverines limited opponents to 17.2 points per game in 2015, in addition to shutting out three consecutive opponents – the longest such streak at Michigan in 35 years.

Durkin’s immediate impact in Ann Arbor was also displayed in player development. Michigan had nine defensive All-Big Ten honorees, including a pair of first-team defensive backs: Jourdan Lewis and Jabrill Peppers. In addition, three Wolverines (Ryan Glasgow, Lewis and Peppers,) were named semifinalists for national defensive awards in 2015.

As the defensive coordinator at Florida from 2013-14, Durkin led the Gators to consecutive top-15 rankings in total defense with the 15th-best mark in the country in 2014 (329.0 yards/game) and the eighth-best (314.2 yards/game) in 2013.

Florida’s 2014 team finished the year ranked in the top 10 in the nation in yards allowed per play (4.45), yards allowed per rush attempt (3.16) and yards allowed per pass attempt (5.9).

The group was highlighted by All-SEC First Team selections Dante Fowler Jr. and Vernon Hargreaves, along with second-team all-conference honoree Antonio Morrison. Fowler was subsequently selected third overall in the 2015 NFL Draft by the Jacksonville Jaguars.

In Durkin’s first season as defensive coordinator, Florida finished first in the SEC and seventh in the country in pass defense (171.8 yards per game). The Gators were sixth nationally in first downs allowed (16.1 per game) and 15th in scoring defense (21.1 points per game), while allowing only 27 touchdowns, the sixth-fewest in the nation in 2013. Defensive tackle Dominique Easley was drafted by the New England Patriots in the first round of the 2014 NFL Draft.

From 2010-2012, Durkin served as special teams coordinator and linebackers coach at Florida. Durkin’s coaching on special teams helped produce punter Chas Henry, the winner of the Ray Guy Award in 2011, and kicker Caleb Sturgis, a two-time finalist for the Lou Groza Award.

Prior to Florida, Durkin spent three seasons at Stanford coaching defensive ends and special teams. Under Durkin’s tutelage, Stanford’s defensive ends helped the Cardinal rank 11th nationally in sacks per game in 2007 and 2009. Durkin also helped the Cardinal bring in its highest ranked recruiting class in eight years in 2009.

He’s clearly an upgrade which is how I started my post that you just want to argue about.

Now im officially done.
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Hold the L.

Just say you were wrong.

And it remains, Durkin in his time as Ole Miss, A&M, and Auburn has never had a top 10 defense. Banks has.

But but but Michigan
 
#41
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VOLfrombama said:
Durkin, austin armstrong, Blake Baker, and maybe even Dave Arranda if he is let go at Baylor would all be upgrades and are very good recruiters as well.

Dont get me wrong Banks has his moments but his safeties have been a liability since he got here as has the secondary minus one season. He got a lot of goodwill after last season though and his D’s have been average every other season.
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Agree, but Banks is terrible
 
#44
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GetYouSomeofThat said:
Thing is, most of the loudest complainers donate zero to very little to the program. Their participation consists of adjusting the rabbit ears and making sure there's a case of Mich Ultra on hand.
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Can you tell us what the donation limit is to be able to complain? I ask bc I may need to up my donation.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
We're not firing Heupel, not because of the money, but because it would be so stupid to do so given the fact he's brought our program back to life. These message board ADs are both an entitled and uninformed bunch, not representative of the majority of the fan base.
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I intentionally stay off this message board after a loss for several days. The idiocy displayed by a handful of our fans is too much to stomach. Idiots..........freaking idiots.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
2 points

Members should have a 500 post restriction before they are allow to start a thread
or Members with less than 500 post that post threads like this should be banned for a month.
It is either a kid, a troll, or drug/alcohol related. In this case it may be all three combined.
A member since 2014 must have remembered his password. I guess he slept for 11 years because he does not remember the 14 years before CJH got here.

Some need to realize that SEC schools have fired not 1, but 4 with 3 possibly moving on or in the hot seat Ky, SCe & Sark (looking around the NFL). We could have possibly internal SEC moves as well. Drink and Kiffin. 9 possible moves overall.
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I think you should learn to read. Ole boy isn’t advocating to fire coach.
 
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roadvol said:
1) Suppose we fire Haupel who supposedly has a $37.5 million buyout.
We then would have to empty the bank to hire a "bettet coach".
Where's the NIL money coming from to buy future players and transfers?
2) With vacancies at UF, UCLA, Auburn ,Arkansas and Penn St what reputable coach would raplace a coach who had pulled UT out of a dumpster fire and won 30 games over the last 3 years?
The answer is no one unless they have an iron clad $50-$100 million buyout.
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Ask Penn State. Ask LSU. Thinking that Heupel has peaked and is on the course to being replaced is not the same as wanting him fired now. I think it would be horribly disruptive, and I can’t see him getting fired unless he lost every remaining game including NM State. I think there’s a real chance we go 7-5 and if you don’t think the coming heat is justified, then you’re a doofus.

Here’s the catch. At 9-3, Heupel isn’t going to make the needed changes. The excuse will be, we’re just a missed field goal from 10-2. The broader reality is Heupel has managed one legit defense in 8 years as a HC. His teams are consistently among the most penalized in the nation. His clock management issues are too big to ignore. Further, Heupel is just not a great recruiter. That’s fine if both your Coordinators are strong, but neither are. UT will get guys simply because they pay, but they’re never going to crack top 5 with Heupel.

This would actually be a reason to be more portal driven. Portal players aren’t HS players. It’s a different game. The romancing and spending years investing isn’t required. Identify a need, identify a fit, make an offer and let’s go. In a year where he really needed to hit the portal hard, he was barely active. In year 5, he has the youngest roster in the SEC. Inexcusable, with a free agent market available to instantly mature your roster.

Development. His best two QBs, were 24 year old cast offs that he didn’t develop. How does a guy show up on April and lead the conference in passing yards by a wide margin. Strength and conditioning appears to be a concern, as his teams lose gas at year end.

He’s had two embarrassing situations with Nico and Boo, that just look really bad. In light of Nico, he should have cut bait with Boo. Does anyone have any doubt that Boo is hitting portal as soon as it opens?

Perhaps the biggest concern is that UT has had two of its easiest schedules in 24/25 than it’s had in the last 20+ years. I don’t think most people get it. We are probably coasting into the playoffs if we add 4-5 more experienced portal players, specifically at safety, LB and D-line. Crap is going to get real next year with the 9 game schedule. No where to hide.

Those are the reasons I think he’s peaked, and it’s inevitable. He has the right to adapt and change, but he’s never fired a coach and he’s not upgraded his staff when openings occurred. The promotion from within of the special teams coach is a huge red flag.

You can talk about money and all that garbage you want. They are playing with Monopoly money over there.
 
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