Question to those in the "Fire Debord" camp?

#76
#76
I wouldn't mind getting rid of Mahoney and bringing in a co-OC. Let Debord focus solely on the oline.
 
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Stark_Vol said:
It's obviously that we pass too much
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Because of the issues on the O-line. If the O-line play were better, we'd get more production on 1-down runs and DeBord would look like a genius. When you couple the injuries with the lack of execution you get that debacle we had against Bama.
 
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#78
#78
When you run on 1st down EVERY time NOBODY can be successful. UT has shown it is not very successful yet they keep doing it like clock work. People I watch the game with are calling out the plays before they happen most of the time.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
Just curious, let's say Coach Jones does fire DeBord at the end of the season. Who exactly could he go out and hire as OC that would run the same style offense and do it any better? I'm not saying I'm for or against getting rid of DeBord. I'd just like to know who we could get that would vastly improve the offense, yet at the same time run the same style of offense (because you know completely overhauling the offense is not an option under CBJ).
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1) Butch's O is one variation of an offense that has been ran for years now. Alabama's offense is very similar. Wasn't the case 3 years ago. We run a power spread.

2) I would say 1/2 the OCs in NCAA can adjust to this offense and improve it. It's got great potential.

3) Jimmy's and Joe's. WRs have to catch better. Lineman have to be better. Recruit.

4) Debord and Butch are of the same mind. IOW whoever would replace Debord, would be fighting Butch the whole time. The whole time. Our offenseive inconsistencies are because of Butch Jones.
 
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#81
#81
Could you guys just stop for a second and imagine what we would look like with Jim bob and a pro style attack next year. My heart rate increases just thinking about it.
 
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#82
#82
Wouldn't mind Tony Franklin. People saying Art Briles, how about Kendall Briles once they get a permanent new coach in and he brings in his own staff?
 
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#84
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Let's recruit and get some offensive linemen that can pass block and open up some seams, and if Debord is not effective at that point- we can talk.
 
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#87
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If he finishes 10-2 Debord will stay unless he decides to quit.
Not sure about Mahoney. He's way past due.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
So you're saying its an evaluation problem, recruiting problem or a development problem?
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IMO you can't separate evaluation and recruiting. Getting the talent here is the most important thing. Period. While I realize that the O-line position requires a ton of technique that must be taught and developed, it's really hard to coach up the less talented players to compete the way we need them to against top tier SEC schools. It's gonna take good mental and physical talent. We took some steps forward this season, only to be set back by lack of depth due to injuries. I would have liked to have seen the o-line that was coming together during Georgia and Florida play healthy the rest of the way. Concerning development - Coaches can coach up with all they've got and players can give all they can, but at the end of the day the most talented team with players that want to be the best will probably win. The last sentence was typed by Captain Obvious and not me. He simply wanted to ... well... state the obvious. Obviously.
 
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#89
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I just want to see a 3rd down play where our receivers run to/past the 1st down marker instead of 4 yards in front of it. I'll hang up and listen....
 
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#90
#90
Chill u guys ...dobbs will get good reads on sc. he will run all over them. Lots of man coverage. Just chill and watch
 
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Question to those in the "Fire Debord" camp?

I for one cannot jump on this bandwagon yet because I have no friggin' clue as to what responsibilities he has in calling the plays. (that is an opening for someone to enlighten VN on this subject...!)
If though, DeBord is responsible for reading our opponents Defense, assessing our players strengths & weaknesses and then calling in a play, then he is clearly not an SEC caliber coach. His schtick might work in the Big 10, but not in the SEC.
Lastly, if CBJ is pulling his strings and he doesn't agree with CBJs offensive scheme, then stand up and confront Butch and change it.
 
#93
#93
This is CBJ offense and signs off on the offensive script. Go after debored need to go after butch!
 
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#94
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Funny how this offense hasn't changed since last year except for the fact the OL isn't blocking.

This falls on coaching decisions with putting the right personal into position. Injuries have plagued us this year but I'm sticking to my original point about our S&C coach and program.

We didn't get beat this many times last year, and the line opened nice holes for hurd. The kicker is the OL was more sound and produced results. Guess we lost the beating a dead horse emoticon, so I'll say this for the umpteenth time, HIRE A PROVEN S&C Coach. We are being pushed around by smaller guys and that screams we aren't physically strong where we need to be.

Trust me, The time I spent lifting in college was insane and it's a wonder I ever had anytime to study, and the S&C coach made sure we did EVERY REP. The only notable difference from this year to last year is the absence of a proven conditioning coach.

This is going to fall on so many deaf ears but watch our line get MANHANDLED by players that give up weight and height. It's called conditioning.

The fan base wanted the last S&C coach gone because we had weight room injuries, but one thing was certain, we didn't get pushed around last year.

I'm done with this subject and sorry I wasted your time!
 
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#95
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I may get flamed for this but we basically run a spread. I know there are different variations and styles but honestly, we'd pick someone up that runs a spread. No way Jones would want to hire a pro style OC to throw at his team.
 
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One can gleem whatever conclusion that they want from stats. What sticks out to me and points directly to Debord is this:

1st half points:
Appy State: 3
VT: 24
OH: 14
FL: 3
GA: 7
AM: 7
Bama: 7

Injuries or no, the production of the offense in the 1st half of these games, at least half or more against inferior defenses in respect to the Vols skill players, points directly at Debord. Sure, the second halves of these games, other than Bama, have produced but the pattern of not being prepared or make in-game adjustments shouldn't, and can't be defended imho. Lucky to be 5-2 instead of 3-4 or 2-5.
 
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OriginalCoach said:
One can gleem whatever conclusion that they want from stats. What sticks out to me and points directly to Debord is this:

1st half points:
Appy State: 3
VT: 24
OH: 14
FL: 3
GA: 7
AM: 7
Bama: 7

Injuries or no, the production of the offense in the 1st half of these games, at least half or more against inferior defenses in respect to the Vols skill players, points directly at Debord. Sure, the second halves of these games, other than Bama, have produced but the pattern of not being prepared or make in-game adjustments shouldn't, and can't be defended imho. Lucky to be 5-2 instead of 3-4 or 2-5.
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CBJ was gungho about bringin him in. CBJ has alot to do with offense too. It is as much fault to butch as is debored
 
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jbr82 said:
CBJ was gungho about bringin him in. CBJ has alot to do with offense too. It is as much fault to butch as is debored
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So replace Butch and Debord? Ok then with who? Consider that any good coach is probably going to look at a program who would just fire a coach who brought its team from the dumpster back to relevance in just 4 years as a negative.

So who is on the list? Factoring in Butch's buyout and all.
 
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