Question for Medical Professionals about Trey Smith

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I know little in regards to his condition or medicine in general, but I’ve seen several people wonder if he will come back from this.

Is there any physical reason as to why he wouldn’t? They caught it before it could do any damage to his lungs, and doesn’t exercise reduce you chances of a clot related incident?

Just curious to see someone’s take that has done more than watch House....Does he have Lupus?
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
I know little in regards to his condition or medicine in general, but I’ve seen several people wonder if he will come back from this.

Is there any physical reason as to why he wouldn’t? They caught it before it could do any damage to his lungs, and doesn’t exercise reduce you chances of a clot related incident?

Just curious to see someone’s take that has done more than watch House....Does he have Lupus?
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I'm not in the medical field, but my wife is. (I also have stayed at a Holiday Inn before. :)) Anyway, I believe someone who has clots develop such as Trey has had is at risk for clots to return. Some end up on blood thinners the rest of their lives. This is the reason many feel he may never return to football.
 
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4th year Med student here. He may have an inherited blood disorder that predisposes him to clots, or it could be another disorder that causes easier coagulation. Regardless, if he has to be on blood thinners he cannot play a contact sport as any bleeding could be deadly, especially internal.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
4th year Med student here. He may have an inherited blood disorder that predisposes him to clots, or it could be another disorder that causes easier coagulation. Regardless, if he has to be on blood thinners he cannot play a contact sport as any bleeding could be deadly, especially internal.
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Not to mention that an undiscovered clot, shaken loose by a collision, could migrate and cause a pulmonary embolism, stroke, or MI.
 
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Experience with the issue due to both spouses. There was hope when Trey first developed the blood clots. Famously Tommie Frazier overcame one in his leg and went through the blood thinner regimen and they never recurred. For Trey’s to flare back up in less than 6 months? He’ll be taking blood thinners the rest of his life. Playing football is over for him. No medical authority worth their doctorate would sign their name clearing him.
 
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Situation kinda reminds me of Inky Johnson. His injury led to his father’s salvation and belief in Christ. Inky said if he had to do it all over again and could chose between the NFL or his father’s salvation, he would chose his father’s salvation 10 times out of 10. We don’t know what this will lead to but we do know it will be used for Trey’s good and God’s glory.
 
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butchna said:
Experience with the issue due to both spouses. There was hope when Trey first developed the blood clots. Famously Tommie Frazier overcame one in his leg and went through the blood thinner regimen and they never recurred. For Trey’s to flare back up in less than 6 months? He’ll be taking blood thinners the rest of his life. Playing football is over for him. No medical authority worth their doctorate would sign their name clearing him.
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Pharmacist here. This is 100% accurate from my experience.
 
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BJSforVols said:
I'm not in the medical field, but my wife is. (I also have stayed at a Holiday Inn before. :)) Anyway, I believe someone who has clots develop such as Trey has had is at risk for clots to return. Some end up on blood thinners the rest of their lives. This is the reason many feel he may never return to football.
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You could have been more helpful if you had stayed in a Holiday Inn Express.
 
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butchna said:
Experience with the issue due to both spouses. There was hope when Trey first developed the blood clots. Famously Tommie Frazier overcame one in his leg and went through the blood thinner regimen and they never recurred. For Trey’s to flare back up in less than 6 months? He’ll be taking blood thinners the rest of his life. Playing football is over for him. No medical authority worth their doctorate would sign their name clearing him.
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Do you live in Utah?
 
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One time occurrence would be okay to return after blood returns to normal coagulation. Recurrence likely means lifetime medication. Really, since it recurred, risks >>>benefits of going back to football.
 
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PT here. I personally don’t see him playing football again, but was somewhat surprised he was playing this year too. With the problem reoccurring so soon and at such a young age, I would imagine there is some sort of clotting disorder. As the med student said, you can’t play football while on anti-coagulants.
 
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I’m a pharmer... and yes he’ll be on blood thinners his whole life now that he has. Re prayed non provoked VTE..
 
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Surgeon here.
Single episode can be an anomaly.
Second flare and in short term. I think he will be forced to stop playing.
I certainly would stop my son.
My sincerest regrets go out to this very deserving young man.
 
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My father has battled clots for a long, long time.
My initial question was how could Trey play while on blood thinners....should he try to return. The risk would be too great I’d think.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
4th year Med student here. He may have an inherited blood disorder that predisposes him to clots, or it could be another disorder that causes easier coagulation. Regardless, if he has to be on blood thinners he cannot play a contact sport as any bleeding could be deadly, especially internal.
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Could the medical staff not keep the anticoagulant at a therapeutic level by checking his PT/INR often and before each game?

Asking for a friend.. ☺
 
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I’ve had PE ‘s twice once in Oct 16, then again Jan 17 while on anticoagulants, he’s done ...probably has an underlying cause such as a protein C defiency. He’ll be on meds the rest of his life, thus ending any career
 
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If these clots had appeared in his legs, then maybe, maybe there would be a chance for a return. But not in the lungs. He will be on blood thinners for the rest of his life. That fact makes him much more prone to bleeding internally even dojng simple every day things. A physical sport like football is impossible. One hit and he could start bleeding uncontrollably internally. I hate it for Trey, but the young mans career is over.
 
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jordanthegimp said:
I’ve had PE ‘s twice once in Oct 16, then again Jan 17 while on anticoagulants, he’s done ...probably has an underlying cause such as a protein C defiency. He’ll be on meds the rest of his life, thus ending any career
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Protein C disorder is awfully rare. Hopefully thats not it.
 
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I think given the information provided then most people's responses are likely correct, but not knowing his exact issue then we are making an educated guess. The answer is definitely a no as to playing while on anticoagultion therapy. Head bleed too great a risk for that.
 
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As many have said, a clot can be a one time thing, but if it reoccurs - especially this soon after the previous one - he's likely to require anticoagulants for the rest of his life. Playing football on anticoagulants is not an option.

Not a medical professional, but know a thing or two about pulmonary embolisms. A few days after shoulder reconstruction surgery, I went to the ER with multiple PEs in both lungs. In my case, no underlying cause/disorder was found and I had no recurrences, so I was cleared to resume playing baseball after completing rehab for the shoulder surgery. I was told that if I had another one, I would never be cleared to resume playing.
 
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