QD has to run the ball more.

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orange parmejohn

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It looks like shades of Worley. The defense knows the rb will get the ball 99% of the time. It would only take 5 or 6 carries a game to keep them guessing. If he can't be asked to do that, why have him running this offense?
 
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It looked like he had a couple opportunities in the first quarter to hold onto the ball and pick up first downs. I'm sure the coaching staff will see this on film and adjust. I would like to see Kelly and Chandler in the backfield like Cobb and Webb.
 
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87&91ALUM said:
It looked like he had a couple opportunities in the first quarter to hold onto the ball and pick up first downs. I'm sure the coaching staff will see this on film and adjust. I would like to see Kelly and Chandler in the backfield like Cobb and Webb.
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How do you know he had that option ? Sometimes the play call is a strait hand off to the rb know matter what the D does. So he may have not had the option to read on them plays your talking about.
 
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I'm glad he kept it in OT. Kelly would have been blasted several yards behind the line if he would have handed it off. I do agree he's going to have to keep it more though.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
It looks like shades of Worley. The defense knows the rb will get the ball 99% of the time. It would only take 5 or 6 carries a game to keep them guessing. If he can't be asked to do that, why have him running this offense?
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Worley was sacked 50% percent of the time and was not able to feel pressure. Dormady did not habe the problem and has faster release. The only shade of Worley was we will not be getting 100 yards per game. I don't want Dormady running 7 or more times per game. 3 or 4 most to keep him healthy. He showed he is will to run it Monday. Wanting him to run more because it looks like we have a pocket passer is not the answer.
 
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fossilfiction said:
Worley was sacked 50% percent of the time and was not able to feel pressure. Dormancy did not habe the problem and has a faster release. The only shade of Worley was we will not be getting 100 yards per game. I don't want Dormady running 7 or more times per game. 3 or 4 most to keep him healthy. He showed he is will to run it Monday. Wanting him to run more because it looks like we have a pocket passer is not the answer.
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If he isn't going to be a true run threat, then they need to abolish the delayed hand off.
 
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Yeah he needs to keep it more, I'd HATE if teams hold us to 6 yards per carry every game

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All he has to do is enough to make the defense wonder if he will next time.

For that, he only has to run a QB draw or a read option keeper a couple of times a game. The earlier in the game for the first one, the better. It'll be enough. Does not have to be nearly as many as 5 or 7.
 
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87&91ALUM said:
It looked like he had a couple opportunities in the first quarter to hold onto the ball and pick up first downs. I'm sure the coaching staff will see this on film and adjust. I would like to see Kelly and Chandler in the backfield like Cobb and Webb.
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Worley had miles of pasture to run the ball into, and they still wouldn't adjust. As another poster stated, it is designed playcalling. Delay the handoff to make it look like the qb is reading the defense and may possibly keep the ball. But the qb rarely ever keeps the ball. Makes absolutely no sense.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
All he has to do is enough to make the defense wonder if he will next time.

For that, he only has to run a QB draw or a read option keeper a couple of times a game. The earlier in the game for the first one, the better. It'll be enough. Does not have to be nearly as many as 5 or 7.
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But they aren't doing that when those plays are there for the taking.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
If you think that performance is going to work against SEC defenses, you are naive.
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If you think that offense won't get better as QD gets more comfortable in live games you are naive....He's a pocket passing QB that can run, he will spread defense vertically and horizontally with his arm to open up the run game, he will never be a player that defenses sell out on to keep from running like Dobbs was.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
It looks like shades of Worley. The defense knows the rb will get the ball 99% of the time. It would only take 5 or 6 carries a game to keep them guessing. If he can't be asked to do that, why have him running this offense?
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Good question. Same answer from coach as when Worley was here. "We don't run that many read options". Why run any read options? I didn't get it then and don't get it now. The only answer must be this is the only offense he knows how to run. Can't tweek for players capabilities.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
If he isn't going to be a true run threat, then they need to abolish the delayed hand off.
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But why? The offense worked very well Monday night with Dormady only keeping it twice. Once they found their groove and new playmakers the offense could not be stopped against a defense that was NOT tired. I see him as run threat but I am not sure what you mean by a true run threat. He is not Dobbs but he is not Worley either.

Geez I should have read my last two post for errors before hitting save. Brutal.
 
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We averaged 6.7 yards per carry. I know it's already been said that it won't happen against SEC defenses. Last year it didn't happen against App State (3.0) or Ohio (4.8). It didn't happen until the A&M game and only happened 4 times all year. One of those being Tennessee Tech.

I'm not disagreeing that I wouldn't mind seeing him keep it a couple more times. Just think that was low on my list of worries.
 
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87&91ALUM said:
It looked like he had a couple opportunities in the first quarter to hold onto the ball and pick up first downs. I'm sure the coaching staff will see this on film and adjust. I would like to see Kelly and Chandler in the backfield like Cobb and Webb.
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"I know its early, but please Santa.....please..."
 
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fossilfiction said:
Worley was sacked 50% percent of the time and was not able to feel pressure. Dormady did not habe the problem and has faster release. The only shade of Worley was we will not be getting 100 yards per game. I don't want Dormady running 7 or more times per game. 3 or 4 most to keep him healthy. He showed he is will to run it Monday. Wanting him to run more because it looks like we have a pocket passer is not the answer.
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:good!: spot on
We now see why Saban really wanted Dormady coming out of HS.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
It looks like shades of Worley. The defense knows the rb will get the ball 99% of the time. It would only take 5 or 6 carries a game to keep them guessing. If he can't be asked to do that, why have him running this offense?
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QD looks nothing like Justin Worley. He will be fine in this system.
 
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lilesrt said:
QD looks nothing like Justin Worley. He will be fine in this system.
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One thing I noticed is that QD's feet are very active in the pocket. I know a few throws he didn't step into, but he has "light feet".

First time we have seen that in ages.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
It looks like shades of Worley. The defense knows the rb will get the ball 99% of the time. It would only take 5 or 6 carries a game to keep them guessing. If he can't be asked to do that, why have him running this offense?
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So, he was only 3 or 4 carries short of your expectations. I'm sure they'll get right on that and get it corrected.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
All he has to do is enough to make the defense wonder if he will next time.

For that, he only has to run a QB draw or a read option keeper a couple of times a game. The earlier in the game for the first one, the better. It'll be enough. Does not have to be nearly as many as 5 or 7.
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Agree completely. His first keep should be early in the game. I saw him keep in a couple times in the game, but believe (could be wrong) his first keeper was in the second half and another in OT. Just needs to do it enough times to keep it in the back of the defense's mind and keep them honest. But, should do it once during the first or second possession of the game...he had a couple opportunities I saw where the end crashed down on the RB that he could have kept it and got 5-7 yards easily, but didn't "read" the end or was a straight handoff.

Overall, first game jitters or something. I would suspect will be corrected. Biggest improvement is from game 1 to game 2.
 
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