Qb situation better than some believe

[k-town_king]

The only stats that I post is his win/ loss record.

Is that a lie too???

We're the Tennessee Vols, not the Tennessee Tuff Gauranatos. We should want better and be willing to accept it when it arrives. It has arrived.

You made my point for me. The VOLS have a win loss record. Not the Guarantanos.

 

[TennJoe06]

Awesome chart.
BUT...

The 3rd down "throws" conversation doesn't factor in sacks. Him just eating the ball sometimes. Not all the time.

And the player A vs B thing is silly.

Player A- 3,190 yds passing 30 tds 9 ints
Player B- 1,190 yds passing 12 tds 4 ints

THAT IS THE REALITY. not the "ratio".

Imagine what our season would have been with 18 more tds!!

Definitely agree, but gives me hope that a better Oline will take him to a new level.

 

[LittleVol]

So now JG is a bowler or tennis player or golfer?

By your definition he could throw for 500 yards and 5 tds a game but if Tennessee loses 7 games despite that this year, then he still sucks? Or he could have the worst QBR in the SEC this year but if Tennessee wins 9 games then he’s suddenly great? What the what? Guessing you’re a big Trent Dilfer fan?

You know who did throw for 500 yards and 5+ tds in one game...?

Brain Maurer.

 

[LittleVol]

You made my point for me. The VOLS have a win loss record. Not the Guarantanos.

That's right were all Vols.

That includes Brian Maurer.

 

[sjt18]

His average pass completion was 12.5 yards; roughly on par with Drew Lock, Jarrett Stidham, and Kyle Shurmur.

I get "sick and tired" of people making up phony stats because they are trying to justify their irrational dislike for JG. And then claiming "stats can be misleading." Yes, they can be very misleading when you make them up out of thin air.

The O did not score points behind him. The coaches could not trust the OL to protect him consistently but they couldn't trust him to make good pre-snap reads and hit hot routes to help the OL.

All of the QB's you listed above threw for at least 700 more yards. Shurmur and Lock were both over 3,000 yds to JG's 1907. Both threw more than twice the number of TD's as JG. Stidham was thought of as a massive disappointment for Auburn. Parsing the stats without considering the net effect is indeed misleading. Each of the O's led by those guys scored at least a TD more per game than UT. Each won more games than UT. Auburn and Vandy were comparable in sacks and Mizzou thrwarts the pass rush by hitting quick passes as a standard part of their O.

I hope JG becomes as good as some seem to think he already is. I hope he learns to make good pre-snap reads and complete the quick passes that punish D's for stunts and blitzes.

I don't "hate" or dislike JG. But UT's problems on O last year were a combination of him and the OL. Both have to improve for UT to become effective on O.

 

[sjt18]

That's right were all Vols.

That includes Brian Maurer.

No. No. No. You just don't understand because of your hatred of JG. If you don't love and support him exclusively while not criticizing him and totally condemning anyone else... you aren't a real fan.

k-town has been at this same thing since before Dormady beat JG out. After he did, he blamed QD for many things he has since blamed receivers, coaches, and OL's for.

He's not a Vol fan. He's a JG fan.

 

[1vol8]

You know who did throw for 500 yards and 5+ tds in one game...?

Brain Maurer.

Actually he threw for 3 tds and ran for 195 and 3 tds in that game. Lost 77-67. The games he threw 5/6 tds he was just under 500 yds passing but there were a few of those.

 

[LittleVol]

Definitely agree, but gives me hope that a better Oline will take him to a new level.

That's the thing many people on here don't connect. The QB is supposed to make the O-line better as well.

So if you have an average in talent O-line, a good QB can protect them with his knowledge of the pressuring defense. Check downs - slide protection- CALLING OUT THE BLITZ...
He can protect them with his feet- sliding or outright running against the defense to make them pause. This takes the bite out the pass rush and gives the O-line a chance to set their feet.

On the other side...a "not so good" QB makes the average O-line look dreadful.

There is one certainty I have in why the O-line will look improved.

Brian Maurer...

 

[LittleVol]

Actually he threw for 3 tds and ran for 195 and 3 tds in that game. Lost 77-67. The games he threw 5/6 tds he was just under 500 yds passing but there were a few of those.

Dang imagine if that defense had D Taylor, Bryce Thompson and Daniel Bituli!!

 

[LittleVol]

No. No. No. You just don't understand because of your hatred of JG. If you don't love and support him exclusively while not criticizing him and totally condemning anyone else... you aren't a real fan.

k-town has been at this same thing since before Dormady beat JG out. After he did, he blamed QD for many things he has since blamed receivers, coaches, and OL's for.

He's not a Vol fan. He's a JG fan.

I would also be a fan of Jarrett Gaurantano if he won games.

Like Peyton
Tee Martin
Casey Clausen
Josh Dobbs...you know...QBs that all played at UT and we're successful.

 

[Behr]

No. No. No. You just don't understand because of your hatred of JG. If you don't love and support him exclusively while not criticizing him and totally condemning anyone else... you aren't a real fan.

k-town has been at this same thing since before Dormady beat JG out. After he did, he blamed QD for many things he has since blamed receivers, coaches, and OL's for.

He's not a Vol fan. He's a JG fan.

Seems Little Vol isn't actually a Vol fan but a Brian Maurer fan. "LittleMaurer"

 

[VOLfrombama]

I don't care who plays what as log as we are stacking W's.

All I really care about is everyone who ends up being wrong ITT comes back to publicly eat their collective crow.

 

[LittleVol]

Seems Little Vol isn't actually a Vol fan but a Brian Maurer fan. "LittleMaurer"

Maurer4Heisman?

I'm a fan of anyone who can lead Tennessee to the level success that Vol fans have come to know. And that's Brian Maurer.

I'm certainly not a JG fan. That's true. But WHY IS THAT??

Soon... you'll be a Brian Maurer fan too.
That's what winning does.

 

[1vol8]

I lived right in his back yar

Dang imagine if that defense had D Taylor, Bryce Thompson and Daniel Bituli!!

I lived in central Florida and just happened to move to the Atlanta area around the time his senior season ended. So I was lucky enough to watch most of his HS career live. The defense was the worst I’ve ever seen and I’ve coached football for years from peewee- hs. His o line wasn’t much better. Especially his junior yr. Scouts and fans get misguided by his junior yr but what doesn’t show up on a stat sheet is his team averaged 10 drops a game. 11 of those drops would’ve been tds. And iirc the article I read said 8 ints that yr were tip drills.

 

[Behr]

You know who did throw for 500 yards and 5+ tds in one game...?

Brain Maurer.

Does Pruitt know about this?

 

[Behr]

Maurer4Heisman?

I'm a fan of anyone who can lead Tennessee to the level success that Vol fans have come to know. And that's Brian Maurer.

I'm certainly not a JG fan. That's true. But WHY IS THAT??

Soon... you'll be a Brian Maurer fan too.
That's what winning does.

Did you pay attention to what you just typed? You kids these days crack me up.

 

[The Original Fade]

He's been failing....

That's what is silly about this whole thing.

Me and others want the TENNESSEE VOLUNTEERS to win! Not going to happen with JG at QB. There's two years of evidence for that...

What’s silly is your simplistic view of football that the QB is solely responsible for wins and losses. Give JG Bray’s offensive line and Ainge’s WRs and he’d probably win a Heisman

 

[Behr]

What’s silly is your simplistic view of football that the QB is solely responsible for wins and losses. Give JG Bray’s offensive line and Ainge’s WRs and he’d probably win a Heisman

You don't know football, son, Only M4H and Nationdom/D4H know football.

 

[LittleVol]

I lived right in his back yar

I lived in central Florida and just happened to move to the Atlanta area around the time his senior season ended. So I was lucky enough to watch most of his HS career live. The defense was the worst I’ve ever seen and I’ve coached football for years from peewee- hs. His o line wasn’t much better. Especially his junior yr. Scouts and fans get misguided by his junior yr but what doesn’t show up on a stat sheet is his team averaged 10 drops a game. 11 of those drops would’ve been tds. And iirc the article I read said 8 ints that yr were tip drills.

Part of that is his frantic energy. WRs that aren't on the same page can not be ready and drop passes.

He needs to continue to learn patience. But man he can read defenses already. Had the strongest arm at every camp he went to. Very quick feet and will hurt you if you leave him running lanes. He's a gamer.

The WRs on the team already LOVE the kid.
He plays with a lot of passion. He needs to learn to control it in some areas.

 

[USMC-TNVOL]

Look at JG's senior stats from high school, he averaged 1 TD per game. Are you surprised when he finally starts a full year here he averages 1 TD per game? No, just blame the O line and the receivers for everything.

Unless Chaney/Weinke do some QB magic on him and can establish a decent run game, the offense is going to be down in the gutters again.

 

[The Original Fade]

Maurer4Heisman?

I'm a fan of anyone who can lead Tennessee to the level success that Vol fans have come to know. And that's Brian Maurer.

I'm certainly not a JG fan. That's true. But WHY IS THAT??

Soon... you'll be a Brian Maurer fan too.
That's what winning does.

Mr. Maurer, I’m sure your son will be a great QB someday. Tell him to keep working hard

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Did you pay attention to what you just typed? You kids these days crack me up.

Why arent Vol fans just fans of any Vol QB?

 

[LittleVol]

What’s silly is your simplistic view of football that the QB is solely responsible for wins and losses. Give JG Bray’s offensive line and Ainge’s WRs and he’d probably win a Heisman

What?????

Haha. This can't be serious.

What about Bray's WRs??? Hunter, Patterson, Rodgers/ Rogers?? He was nowhere near winning the Heisman and those guys were getting their stats on ANYBODY!

JG would have similar stats AS HE DOES NOW with that personnel. Because he is the MAIN problem.

 

[The Original Fade]

Look at JG's senior stats from high school, he averaged 1 TD per game. Are you surprised when he finally starts a full year here he averages 1 TD per game? No, just blame the O line and the receivers for everything.

Unless Chaney/Weinke do some QB magic on him and can establish a decent run game, the offense is going to be down in the gutters again.

How many QBs average 5 TDs a game in high school and aren’t even offered scholarships? Answer: PLENTY

 

[Behr]

Why arent Vol fans just fans of any Vol QB?

Just the way some were taught, it's not their fault.