QB quesiton....GT vs UT

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not a QB question. TOP question. our offense is at a much bigger disadvantage as the ratio will probably be 3:1 in GT's favor
 
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I'll tell you at the end of the 1st Half.

Honestly, this question is unanswerable for now. Simply far too many variables involved, few of which we even have the first inkling of.
 
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Ratio of what? Fans? They are playing new QB same as we are. And new RB. 50/50 at best.
 
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Hard to answer since we run completely different offenses, but I think we are at a disadvantage more than they are.

We rarely see their offense but their defense see's our type of offense more often. So I think overall we are at the bigger disadvantage. As far as QB's go I don't think either one has more of an advantage, they are both "Rookies" at this point.
 
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ellisjb0 said:
not a QB question. TOP question. our offense is at a much bigger disadvantage as the ratio will probably be 3:1 in GT's favor
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2016: GT 25:27 to Georgia's 34:33.

Is sig-greater possession time necessarily a winning advantage against GT?
 
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Depends on the QB but probably GT. Their whole O is built around the performance of the QB. His decisions and ball handling are critical on every play to an even greater degree than other O's.

GT's top 3 rushers to include their QB are gone. Lynch who rushed for 415 yds last year from a wing back position is not expected to play if I understand correctly. Jordan who backed up Thomas last year may not be the starter according to GT fans here.

Those are 5 of GT's top 6 rushers from last year. They and other retired players accounted for 2854 of GT's 3355 rushing yards.

They also lost a projected OL starter in camp.
 
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Yes, the podcast at seccountry, stated that Jordan probably will not be the starter.
 
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Yeah, I know an option QB doesn't have to throw it forward as much, but they do pitch in backwards a lot more; that could spell trouble if you are starting a frosh. QB.
 
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UT-Rex said:
2016: GT 25:27 to Georgia's 34:33.

Is sig-greater possession time necessarily a winning advantage against GT?
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interesting stat. i wonder if that's an anomaly. I think it usually gives them an advantage, sure. We gotta make every possession count!

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/butch-jones-tennessee-offensive-line


The Yellow Jackets run a style of offense that is deliberately intended to keep the clock running and shrink the game — the better to place a priority on execution and ball security.

Tennessee offensive coordinator Larry Scott, who faced Georgia Tech regularly when he was an assistant at Miami from 2013-2015, said the Vols offense will adjust its play calls accordingly.

“You have to take care of the football, that becomes paramount, you cannot turn the football over,” Scott said of facing Georgia Tech. “You have to possess the football with that football team a little bit, so things you do really well that are core things, you have to have a high level of execution.
 
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sjt18 said:
Depends on the QB but probably GT. Their whole O is built around the performance of the QB. His decisions and ball handling are critical on every play to an even greater degree than other O's.

GT's top 3 rushers to include their QB are gone. Lynch who rushed for 415 yds last year from a wing back position is not expected to play if I understand correctly. Jordan who backed up Thomas last year may not be the starter according to GT fans here.

Those are 5 of GT's top 6 rushers from last year. They and other retired players accounted for 2854 of GT's 3355 rushing yards.

They also lost a projected OL starter in camp.
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This. GT's option game depends on the QB and RBs being completely in sync. With a new QB and new RBs, especially in game 1, the pitch option especially could create a lot of TO opportunities for UT.
 
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sjt18 said:
Depends on the QB but probably GT. Their whole O is built around the performance of the QB. His decisions and ball handling are critical on every play to an even greater degree than other O's.

GT's top 3 rushers to include their QB are gone. Lynch who rushed for 415 yds last year from a wing back position is not expected to play if I understand correctly. Jordan who backed up Thomas last year may not be the starter according to GT fans here.

Those are 5 of GT's top 6 rushers from last year. They and other retired players accounted for 2854 of GT's 3355 rushing yards.

They also lost a projected OL starter in camp.
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Disagree somewhat. Anytime a QB is only asked to throw the ball 7-8 times per game they are at an advantge imo. Dormady will be asked to make reads, find 2nd and 3rd option receivers, throw to mostly unproven targets, and all the while knowing if he screws up Garauntano is waiting to take his spot. Advantage GT.
 
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just means we may have to knock them loose from the ball a couple more times...no possession...no time...:)

GO VOLS!
 
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BACKDOC said:
The O line player lost was the starting center.
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He was a RT, and we won't hurt on the OL, or we shouldn't lol. Losing him just hurts us in depth. We have two pretty good backups on the OL. One OG and one OT but we have a starting OG that can move to OT and we can play our 3rd OG if needed.
 
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Crazy Ivan said:
This. GT's option game depends on the QB and RBs being completely in sync. With a new QB and new RBs, especially in game 1, the pitch option especially could create a lot of TO opportunities for UT.
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It does need a lot of sync. But we don't run the triple option every play, actually we run it well under 50% of the time if I had to guess. Coach Johnson is a straight shooter and he's not worried about the QB spot. I think he's a lot more worried about the D. But if the QB plays bad for us that could cause a lot of turnovers.
 
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fade route said:
Disagree somewhat. Anytime a QB is only asked to throw the ball 7-8 times per game they are at an advantge imo. Dormady will be asked to make reads, find 2nd and 3rd option receivers, throw to mostly unproven targets, and all the while knowing if he screws up Garauntano is waiting to take his spot. Advantage GT.
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If Jordan is not the starter then their starter will be chosen out of 3 who were apparently close... and will be looking over his shoulder at someone who has started games for GT. Jordan was the QB when GT beat VT last fall. Can't throw but his reads on the option were good and he runs well.

GT's QB has to pitch the ball blind on a lot of plays.


On both sides, pressure on the QB will be key to stopping the opponent. If UT gets penetration in the middle then they'll likely force some errors that can turn the game. OTOH, if GT can pressure UT's QB then they might produce short drives enabling them to shorten the game.
 
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Techfan1 said:
He was a RT, and we won't hurt on the OL, or we shouldn't lol. Losing him just hurts us in depth. We have two pretty good backups on the OL. One OG and one OT but we have a starting OG that can move to OT and we can play our 3rd OG if needed.
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Folks here are panicking because UT lost one guy who might have started. You have 7 serious contenders to start on the OL... lose one.. and say its no big deal. UT has 10 to 12 who were thought to be serious contenders to play... lose one... and suddenly there's no way we should be able to expect Jones to coach through the problems caused by a coach that's now been gone 5 years.

Just kind of the way things are around here right now. So far Jones has done the WORST thing he could have done... he's been too good to fire but not really done anything yet to prove he's worthy of staying.
 
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sjt18 said:
Folks here are panicking because UT lost one guy who might have started. You have 7 serious contenders to start on the OL... lose one.. and say its no big deal. UT has 10 to 12 who were thought to be serious contenders to play... lose one... and suddenly there's no way we should be able to expect Jones to coach through the problems caused by a coach that's now been gone 5 years.

Just kind of the way things are around here right now. So far Jones has done the WORST thing he could have done... he's been too good to fire but not really done anything yet to prove he's worthy of staying.
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Lol if y'all have that many Ol y'all will be perfectly fine. You can go into a game with 7 guys and be fine. 3 OG 3 OT and 1 center.
 
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Techfan1 said:
Lol if y'all have that many Ol y'all will be perfectly fine. You can go into a game with 7 guys and be fine. 3 OG 3 OT and 1 center.
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I'm a little nervous about it. They've been waiting for some "unnamed" guys to get healthy so they can give them a shot at starting. IMHO, they would have been better off taking the healthy guys and making a starting line up. When the other guys come back, they can compete.

Jones has complained about injuries preventing continuity while apparently not trying to create continuity with the guys who are most likely to be healthy and available.
 
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SMH.

We are not putting a new QB on the field. They will not be able to keep up with us so they are very obviously at a disadvantage.
 
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sjt18 said:
If Jordan is not the starter then their starter will be chosen out of 3 who were apparently close... and will be looking over his shoulder at someone who has started games for GT. Jordan was the QB when GT beat VT last fall. Can't throw but his reads on the option were good and he runs well.

GT's QB has to pitch the ball blind on a lot of plays.


On both sides, pressure on the QB will be key to stopping the opponent. If UT gets penetration in the middle then they'll likely force some errors that can turn the game. OTOH, if GT can pressure UT's QB then they might produce short drives enabling them to shorten the game.
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Good points. Solid post 👍🏻
 
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sjt18 said:
Depends on the QB but probably GT. Their whole O is built around the performance of the QB. His decisions and ball handling are critical on every play to an even greater degree than other O's.

GT's top 3 rushers to include their QB are gone. Lynch who rushed for 415 yds last year from a wing back position is not expected to play if I understand correctly. Jordan who backed up Thomas last year may not be the starter according to GT fans here.

Those are 5 of GT's top 6 rushers from last year. They and other retired players accounted for 2854 of GT's 3355 rushing yards.

They also lost a projected OL starter in camp.
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Pretty much this. GT's O requires much more "in sync" and with inexperienced QB and A/B Backs I see a good possibility for this to be a sloppy game in the turnover department for them.

But the bell curves that the GT fans created to give them the statistical edge would differ. 🙄😂🤣
 
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Techfan1 said:
It does need a lot of sync. But we don't run the triple option every play, actually we run it well under 50% of the time if I had to guess. Coach Johnson is a straight shooter and he's not worried about the QB spot. I think he's a lot more worried about the D. But if the QB plays bad for us that could cause a lot of turnovers.
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I suspect how much the QB is forced to pitch will be dictated by (1) how well the UT DTs/MLB can defend the middle against the dive, and (2) how well UT can set the edges. If UT allows the GT FB to run that dive for 6-8 yds a pop it will be a long night for our defense. But if UT can defend the inside it will force GT outside, which will likely increase the number of pitches considerably, especially if UT can attack the mesh point. Lots of 'its' to be sure, but we are all working with 'ifs' right now.
 
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Now if Kirkland is out (suspected dirty pee) and Colton has to play MLB vs GT then I think the advantage is a push. If Mackenzie is also out (again, dirty pee) then advantage GT because Tuttle most likely won't be playing in this one. That's going to be a weak, weak middle of our D if that happens. 😬😬😬
 
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