QB Play Hurts Too

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BigPapaVol

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Posted this under another title, but decided it needs something more appropriate. Ainge made some horrible throws in big situations yesterday. Seniors are supposed to be the guys that get it done in pressure situations.

Near the end zone he snapped off some awful looking ducks and missed receivers with consistency, from all angles. Additionally, the 4Q decision on 4th and 7 was as freshman-like as it could have been. Danielson made some excuse about the finger when he has to react quickly, but that was just pitiful. Looked like he was afraid he might get hit.

If we're in the position that the best QB we have is one who hands off backhanded with his left and that we can expect 20% of his passes to go anywhere besides where intended, we can expect to lose many more again next year.
 
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Erik Ainge=Casey Clausen. A lot of stats, a lot of media hype, a four year starter...........but, didn't win JACK!!!
 
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Well you have to look at it. Ainge has NO help none nada nothing.Our recievers suck so badly its almost laughable. Foster runs like he's in 5 feet of water. Coker is our best back but he almost never sees the field.
Also, When you abandon the run as quickly as we like to do in big games you are in free fall state.I feel bad for Ainge.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Well you have to look at it. Ainge has NO help none nada nothing.Our recievers suck so badly its almost laughable. Foster runs like he's in 5 feet of water. Coker is our best back but he almost never sees the field.
Also, When you abandon the run as quickly as we like to do in big games you are in free fall state.I feel bad for Ainge.
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does that somehow excuse the turd throws when his protection has been phenomenal. Those early FG attempts hurt a ton and every one of them came on the heels of poorly thrown passes in the red zone.
 
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Erik Ainge is the offense right now. Every time he makes a throw that is slightly off you notice it because his margin of error is almost zero. Look at what happened on the first series . . . He threw a perfect strike on 3rd down to Austin Rogers who dropped it and then we got a punt returned for a TD. Ainge isn't perfect, but on the list of problems he's way down the list.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
does that somehow excuse the turd throws when his protection has been phenomenal. Those early FG attempts hurt a ton and every one of them came on the heels of poorly thrown passes in the red zone.
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He definitely threw some ugly balls, but at the same time it wasn't like he was missing guys who were running free.
 
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GAVol said:
Erik Ainge is the offense right now. Every time he makes a throw that is slightly off you notice it because his margin of error is almost zero. Look at what happened on the first series . . . He threw a perfect strike on 3rd down to Austin Rogers who dropped it and then we got a punt returned for a TD. Ainge isn't perfect, but on the list of problems he's way down the list.
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Have to agree there. Ainge, imo, is a great QB in a bad position.
 
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GAVol said:
Erik Ainge is the offense right now. Every time he makes a throw that is slightly off you notice it because his margin of error is almost zero. Look at what happened on the first series . . . He threw a perfect strike on 3rd down to Austin Rogers who dropped it and then we got a punt returned for a TD. Ainge isn't perfect, but on the list of problems he's way down the list.
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he can't play D for us, but I thought he looked awful yesterday. those were open receivers he was missing. I agree that our receiving corps leaves a lot to be desired, but he has to be accurate in the red zone and wasn't. Balls sailing near the endzone are often picked. Ainge is a good football player, IMO, but that finger is a huge deal and he's having to play through it because we don't have a better alternative. That's the point.
 
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GAVol said:
He definitely threw some ugly balls, but at the same time it wasn't like he was missing guys who were running free.
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some were free, some were not, but the point is that they were being missed, by quite a bit.
 
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and or the coaches have to realize the big 3 are gone and stop the 4 yard out routes and stretch the field..
fl was weak if we stretch field as even Troy proved and I can only remember 2 or 3 passes thrown over 20 yards

ainge is playing EXTREMELY well considering the circumstances and his finger is hurting him on those bad throws.
 
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KTBKRUSHER said:
and or the coaches have to realize the big 3 are gone and stop the 4 yard out routes and stretch the field..
fl was weak if we stretch field as even Troy proved and I can only remember 2 or 3 passes thrown over 20 yards

ainge is playing EXTREMELY well considering the circumstances and his finger is hurting him on those bad throws.
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the point is that the circumstances merit playing someone healthy, but we apparently don't have that option because what we're witnessing (slowed Ainge) is better than the next best thing
 
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You are 100% correct. I have been calling for mental toughness and leadership from Ainge. I personally wonder if the team really has confidence in him. The botched hand off with the game on the line is really all I need to see.

The chips are down, and we have a "leaderless" football team.
 
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OUCH...I for one will reserve the bashing until Fulmer actually opens up the O. I'ts quite frustrating to watch our smallish, rather slow WRs try to get open. They do a nice job, but we really lack any resemblence of a downfield threat. That hurts the O as a whole. And as there is no excuse for a senior to be missing open WRs, he's worlds ahead of Casey Clausen.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I for one am VERY afraid of Crompton.
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I don't think Crompton should be playing over Ainge, but in defense of Crompton, I think some of the mistakes he is making are a result of a guy getting very limited snaps coming in and trying a little too hard to make something happen.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think Crompton should be playing over Ainge, but in defense of Crompton, I think some of the mistakes he is making are a result of a guy getting very limited snaps coming in and trying a little too hard to make something happen.
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I like Crompton for this football team. I think he gets an unfair shake because of the Ark. disaster last year (which IMO was the worst offensive line performance I've ever seen on any level).
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think Crompton should be playing over Ainge, but in defense of Crompton, I think some of the mistakes he is making are a result of a guy getting very limited snaps coming in and trying a little too hard to make something happen.
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Correct GA. If it weren't for the poor game plan at Arky + a healthy dose of McFadden in that game, we all might be whistling a different tune.
 
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I think Crompton played VERY well vs LSU last year. The refs don't blow that whistle on Russell's fumble and we don't waste a full quarter using an injured Ainge and I think he wins it.
 
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GAVol said:
I don't think Crompton should be playing over Ainge, but in defense of Crompton, I think some of the mistakes he is making are a result of a guy getting very limited snaps coming in and trying a little too hard to make something happen.
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I think he should be playing over the INJURED Ainge.
 
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I think Crompton could earn the respect of his team members and make players around him BETTER.

Look at it this way:Though I always disagreed with RC playing over Ainge, there was a reason that Sanders wanted RC. RC was a leader, and his teamates believed in him. I don't think that Ainge has ever really had that kind of respect from the team.
 
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This is a bad time to post something like this, but if there's one time when I trust David Cutcliffe, it's when it's time to pick a QB.
 
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GAVol said:
This is a bad time to post something like this, but if there's one time when I trust David Cutcliffe, it's when it's time to pick a QB.
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That's the point I was making originally. If DC thinks this version of Ainge is the best we can put on the field, we've got big problems come next year.
 
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I still don't think this version of Erik Ainge is really a problem. I'll see them live twice in the next few weeks, so I'll be interested to watch routes and see if the problem with the passing game is Ainge not being able to go deep or if it's a WR problem.
 
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