QB of the future

[zydane47]

Bo has been around the Auburn system for years
Casey Clausen is arguably one of the best we’ve ever had. He’s named the ice man for a reason.
Tua is a generational player like him or not he can sling it and stays cool under pressure.
Ainge and Schaefer could have been great had they been used correctly.

Your really talking about a group of guys who don’t come along very often

North Carolina’s QB is a True Freshman, is he a once in a generation player?

We’ve seen TF all around the country start and win but only here at Tennessee is that not possible apparently.

 

[GetEmVols]

Can’t afford not to from what we’ve seen from our QBs.

Two words... Kasim Hill

 

[Dudleys87]

North Carolina’s QB is a True Freshman, is he a once in a generation player?

We’ve seen TF all around the country start and win but only here at Tennessee is that not possible apparently.

I’ve said before it’s said that if he sticks he’s already the best we have. Speaking of Bailey.
If he’s ready I have no problem starting but I have an issue throwing him to the wolves to early and ruining him mentally.

I’d love nothing more than Tennessee getting a break and getting an elite quarterback but it’s rare they come in and win at a level these fans need

 

[keenobserver]

North Carolina’s QB is a True Freshman, is he a once in a generation player?

We’ve seen TF all around the country start and win but only here at Tennessee is that not possible apparently.

Very good point....I think it's much harder in the SEC though....For example, Fromm has been great, but I think he'll be a career backup in the NFL

 

[Remy]

If HB is everything he is supposed to be, there's no reason he can't start next year. Again freshman QBs all over the country seem to do very well, but us being Tennessee, well you know we just can't have freshman starting to much, even though frosh QBs at UF & UGA clean our clocks on a routine basis. Let me suggest what may be a novel idea to some of you. How 'bout we allow the staff to get HB on campus and allow them to make an evaluation as to whether he can or should play next year and support their decision either way?

 

[Power T-Rev]

Kasim Hill will start next year

 

[1vol8]

Good post...I'd like to see if Mauer will be too good to sit through

He will be. Trust me, once the game slows down there isn’t another qb on our roster more accurate (although we don’t see it now) nor will we have one with his running abilities. He was 4-11 and that’s not good. I get it. But several of those were batted at the line due to a good adjustment by Mullen. The int was a bad decision but it WAS on target. What looked bad as far as accuracy was the deep passes against Florida. I’m 90% sure 2 of those were throw aways. If you get a wild hair to watch it again you’ll see what I mean. He threw them from inside the pocket therefore it had to be in the area of the receivers. And Chaney did him NO favors by going pass happy after seeing Mullen backed off into coverage the moment BM came in. The defensive ends stopped rushing and stayed in the passing lanes to the flats. Chaney should’ve mixed it up better and ran the ball 50% and I think BM would’ve looked better. JMO

 

[keenobserver]

He will be. Trust me, once the game slows down there isn’t another qb on our roster more accurate (although we don’t see it now) nor will we have one with his running abilities. He was 4-11 and that’s not good. I get it. But several of those were batted at the line due to a good adjustment by Mullen. The int was a bad decision but it WAS on target. What looked bad as far as accuracy was the deep passes against Florida. I’m 90% sure 2 of those were throw aways. If you get a wild hair to watch it again you’ll see what I mean. He threw them from inside the pocket therefore it had to be in the area of the receivers. And Chaney did him NO favors by going pass happy after seeing Mullen backed off into coverage the moment BM came in. The defensive ends stopped rushing and stayed in the passing lanes to the flats. Chaney should’ve mixed it up better and ran the ball 50% and I think BM would’ve looked better. JMO

Man, I agree with everything you said....especially asserting he should be our QB now.....I just dont see anyone with his size and skill set that is considered a great QB (aside of Manziel, Mayfield, Russell wilson, or a random PAC 12 QB)....They have him listed at 6'3, 190, but hes no where close to that

 

[1vol8]

I’ve said before it’s said that if he sticks he’s already the best we have. Speaking of Bailey.
If he’s ready I have no problem starting but I have an issue throwing him to the wolves to early and ruining him mentally.

I’d love nothing more than Tennessee getting a break and getting an elite quarterback but it’s rare they come in and win at a level these fans need

“It’s said” being the key quote. No one really knows. He plays for one of the best teams in the country. He’s coming TO one of the worst teams in the SEC. Arik Gilbert (provided he comes with him) will no longer be the “man child” he is in HS for HB to rely on. Look at Keyton..... he was a man amongst boys himself last year. BM threw him a damn near perfect deep ball against UTC and an FCS corner won that matchup.

 

[1vol8]

Man, I agree with everything you said....especially asserting he should be our QB now.....I just dont see anyone with his size and skill set that is considered a great QB (aside of Manziel, Mayfield, or a random PAC 12 QB)....They have him listed at 6'3, 190, but hes no where close to that

He’s actually bigger tbh. Last I heard he is up to 202. That was about a month and a half ago. And he’s also 6’4(according to his senior measurements) His frame is ideal at 215 so he may not be as far from it as we think. Those listings are hardly ever updated. You can believe them for about a month. Lol. Manziel and Mayfield are both quite a bit shorter I think. I think he just looks small standing next to some of those other guys but he does need another 10 lbs, no doubt.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Bo Nix, Casey Clausen, Tua, Ainge/Schaeffer ......but yes it’s a tall order to ask a True Freshman to start

All the guys you mentioned had a much better supporting cast

 

[keenobserver]

He’s actually bigger tbh. Last I heard he is up to 202. That was about a month and a half ago. And he’s also 6’4(according to his senior measurements) His frame is ideal at 215 so he may not be as far from it as we think. Those listings are hardly ever updated. You can believe them for about a month. Lol. Manziel and Mayfield are both quite a bit shorter I think. I think he just looks small standing next to some of those other guys but he does need another 10 lbs, no doubt.

Look at him real time the next time he runs out (hopefully against GA)......hes listed at 6'3".....hes more like 5'11".....he's by far the shortest and lightest player on the field....Russell Wilson?

 

[1vol8]

Look at him real time the next time he runs out (hopefully against GA)......hes listed at 6'3".....hes more like 5'11".....he's by far the shortest and lightest player on the field....Russell Wilson?

Lol. Trust me man. He’s not 5’11. He’s 6’4. I’m 5’10 and he towers over me. I from his area and know his old coaches very well. Met him quite a few times. I’m telling you it’s just when he’s standing beside the big guys he looks smaller.

 

[1vol8]

Look at him real time the next time he runs out (hopefully against GA)......hes listed at 6'3".....hes more like 5'11".....he's by far the shortest and lightest player on the field....Russell Wilson?

JG is also 6’4. Need any more proof? Lol

 

[JMSqb11]

I realize it's off week and there's not alot to be positive about when thinking about the immediate future of the program, but I have a few thoughts and more importantly, some questions for volnation.

Regardless of what coaches spew to the media about the QB position being "just one" position and surrounding them with great support can lead to success...... They know what we all know... There are very few championship caliber teams that dont at least have good QB play...In fact, it most always requires great QB play..I know we agree our QB play has been pretty bad.....IMO, I believe, regardless of what else happens this year or what anyones opinions are of him, JG will use his last year of eligibility somewhere else.

It seems as if we have an elite blue chipper committed in the Bailey kid from Marietta....He has the build and arm talent of someone who might be an NFL QB one day.....He'll be a true freshman next season when Grad transfer Kasim Hill competes for the starting job. Hill led Maryland to an enormous upset of Texas last season....and of course Mauer, who looks like a great competitor, but to me he looks really really tiny out there....I like him, just not sure if hes SEC caliber...I'm hoping we see soon : )

My questions are:

Shouldn't TN be an attractive place for another grad transfer to give Bailey a year? Perhaps one that's really good? Shouldn't the best graduate non SEC QB from a struggling power 5 program be our QB next season?

Do we see Bailey starting as a true freshman? I'm sure immediate playing time is attractive to him as well as a grad transfer.......

Pruitt may or may not be the answer. But it would be alot more clear if we had a good QB

If things go as they should post Bama game, Maurer or Shrout will basically get a 5 game tryout for starter going into next year. If one doesn’t separate from the other, Kasim Hill would likely get a shot at starting next year as well. I don’t expect Bailey to come in and play right away.

I fully expect Maurer to start out the rest of the season or Atleast post Bama game and we let JG take brunt of damage over the next 3 games.

 

[jeff1vol]

Ok... heres the deal with playing a true fesh.

ALL of those you mentioned have one thing im common... A RUN GAME!
The best way to protect a QB is to have a good run game.

IF our OL can keep improving, we should be a run first team, which will take a TON of pressure off of ANY Qb.

 

[jwilliams]

If things go as they should post Bama game, Maurer or Shrout will basically get a 5 game tryout for starter going into next year. If one doesn’t separate from the other, Kasim Hill would likely get a shot at starting next year as well. I don’t expect Bailey to come in and play right away.

I fully expect Maurer to start out the rest of the season or Atleast post Bama game and we let JG take brunt of damage over the next 3 games.

Good post.

I have an issue with waiting until post-bama. Everyone says you can't throw these guys out there against Georgia or Alabama as their first game, but why the F not? If Shrout or Maurer started against GA, the situation would be explained to them... they're not dumb. And they're young, so I don't think a beat-down from GA or AL is going to demoralize them for the rest of their careers. It's not going to break their brains. And when they get out on the field against SC, Kentucky, Vandy, etc... they may just say "oh, hey... this is way easier. I can do this."

Now, if you want to wait until post-bama to give JG a chance to turn things around, that's another matter. I feel he should have already lost the job.

 

[bpalmer28]

Good post.

I have an issue with waiting until post-bama. Everyone says you can't throw these guys out there against Georgia or Alabama as their first game, but why the F not? If Shrout or Maurer started against GA, the situation would be explained to them... they're not dumb. And they're young, so I don't think a beat-down from GA or AL is going to demoralize them for the rest of their careers. It's not going to break their brains. And when they get out on the field against SC, Kentucky, Vandy, etc... they may just say "oh, hey... this is way easier. I can do this."

Now, if you want to wait until post-bama to give JG a chance to turn things around, that's another matter. I feel he should have already lost the job.

When you say “beat down” it sounds like you’re talking about the scoreboard but what people would be concerned about is the beat down that MAUER would receive and how that would affect his confidence.

 

[OleRockyTopTennessee]

It is a tall order to ask a Freshman, even a spectacularly talented one, to come in and start as QB. It's even tougher to expect them to be successful and excel.

It’s happening all around college football now and those “freshmen” you are referring to are handling it quite well.

 

[jwilliams]

When you say “beat down” it sounds like you’re talking about the scoreboard but what people would be concerned about is the beat down that MAUER would receive and how that would affect his confidence.

Ya, good call... not sure what to say about that. Personally, I wouldn't want to see Maurer doing too much with his legs. I realize that's part if who he is, but he's got to understand that he has to survive first and foremost. Might be a good reason to lean towards Shrout as well. I'm not convinced (yet) that he's worse than Maurer.

 

[1vol8]

Ok... heres the deal with playing a true fesh.

ALL of those you mentioned have one thing im common... A RUN GAME!
The best way to protect a QB is to have a good run game.

IF our OL can keep improving, we should be a run first team, which will take a TON of pressure off of ANY Qb.

We have a great run game. And I can point out proof. During the Florida game in the first half the run game didn’t look so good. With JG in there it’s no secret he likes to keep it short and safe. So the entire defense plays downhill. A lot of blitzing ext. Which is why DWA had the blown coverage. Once BM got in there Mullen immediately adjusted to play coverage and Eric Grey was chewing up yards the 3 times he got his number called.

 

[PrattvilleVol]

If Harrison Bailey comes to Tennessee in 2020 I would redshirt him and take my lumps in 2020

Why? Bo Nix, Trevor Lawrence, Jake Bentley, Tua....I’m not going to make a list, but freshman can and do come to college game ready.

 

[1vol8]

Why? Bo Nix, Trevor Lawrence, Tua....I’m not going to make a list, but freshman can and do come to college game ready.

Bo Nix was prepped as a starter from day 1 and has a defense to bail him out of his mistakes. If you watch him play he’s not as “ready” as Auburn’s record indicates. Trevor Lawrence came from a great team and went to a great team. He was still riding pine outside of packages for 4 weeks. Tua.... well let’s face it. He plays for Bama. He’s surrounded by Bama players but also rode pine as a freshman until the second half of the N.C. game. What you may not be taking into consideration is Bailey is coming from a great team to a bad team. None of those guys you listed did that.

 

[McDad]

Everyone pointing to true freshmen starting at QB are guilty of thinking exceptions to the rule disprove the rule. Teams, QB expectations, coaches are different. To think it will happen at UT because it has happened other places is an outlook based on hope. It isn't based on facts and historical observations. If HB starts, i hope he balls out. But i wouldn't expect it. Odds are not favorable.

 

[johnsonbrewer]

All the more reason to get Maurer tons of reps RIGHT NOW in live action.

LIVE ACTION!!!