QB choice biggest mistake all season.

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BeardedVol said:
This.

The oline will be little better next year. It looks like Pruitt is going to sacrifice the first two years in the hopes fhat he can recruit well enough in the meantime to make year 3 a success.

It's a gamble.
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If your theory is correct, he will have a disastrous 3rd season and will lose the fan base, thus be on a short leash on season # 4....
 
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VOLnMiami said:
You might be right....CJP is very high on JT Shrout...He is a much better fit than JG in this style of offense.
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So being less accurate and not taking care of the ball when those are the two things Pruitt values most in a qb makes him a better fit?

What are some of you on?
 
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Tnslim1 said:
The question to ask is this: Is JG ever going to be an SEC level QB? NO. Time to cut bait and move on.
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So being one of the top rated SEC qbs with some top 4 or 5 stats means he isn't an SEC qb?

Beating two top 25 teams and being NPOTW for one of the wins means a qb isn't an SEC qb?

Y'all did that to Dobbs too. Sad.
 
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k-town_king said:
So being one of the top rated SEC qbs with some top 4 or 5 stats means he isn't an SEC qb?

Beating two top 25 teams and being NPOTW for one of the wins means a qb isn't an SEC qb?

Y'all did that to Dobbs too. Sad.
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Are you secretly being paid by JG or possibly a member of his inner circle of friends or family ?
 
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k-town_king said:
So being one of the top rated SEC qbs with some top 4 or 5 stats means he isn't an SEC qb?

Beating two top 25 teams and being NPOTW for one of the wins means a qb isn't an SEC qb?

Y'all did that to Dobbs too. Sad.
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Completions: 12th
Attempts:13th
Completion %: 8th
Passing Yards: 11th
Touchdowns: 11th
Interceptions: 2nd
QB Rating: 8th
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The biggest coaching mistake was not scheming a better offensive strategy to better protect your quarterback and mask the deficiencies of the offensive line. They should have been running the veer or triple option. Anything to get the quarterback out of the pocket in a hurry.
 
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k-town_king said:
So being one of the top rated SEC qbs with some top 4 or 5 stats means he isn't an SEC qb?

Beating two top 25 teams and being NPOTW for one of the wins means a qb isn't an SEC qb?

Y'all did that to Dobbs too. Sad.
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Dobbs is 10 times better than JG.

Dobbs can run. JG can't or won't

Dobbs threw a nice deep ball. JG's deep ball is an Underthrown jump ball
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
I think we would have done better with Dormandy this year. That is how bad I believe JG is.
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Hey look, a guy on the internet calling him Dormandy. How you gonna act like you give two poots and not know our former starting quarterback's name was Dormady, with no "n".
 
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vols 30 said:
Dobbs is 10 times better than JG.

Dobbs can run. JG can't or won't

Dobbs threw a nice deep ball. JG's deep ball is an Underthrown jump ball
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Dobbs is one of my favorite Vols ever, but he wasn't always. Dobbs earned his draft spot his senior year. Before that he was decent, but had major flaws. He also was in an offense that encouraged him to show off his running ability, which made him exceptional. His passing ability was never a strength of his until he started chucking deep balls to Josh Malone.

Point being, JG is a redshirt sophomore who shows great improvement from last year to this year. He's not a terrible quarterback, and he has time and room for improvement.
 
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orange plasma said:
IMO being stubborn about keeping JG at the helm was the biggest mistake all season. I realize that it's easy to blame the QB but he's clearly not capable of generating sufficient offense for Tn to be competitive consistently. Allowing Chryst to get more reps and gel with this offense earlier in the season would I believe made the difference in a few games like South Carolina and possibly Vandy. JG got tons of grace from throwing up a few 50 50 balls successfully. The guy is really is not very dynamic and has NO RUNNING ABILITY. Itll be extremely discouraging to see him at the top of the depth chart next season. Thoughts on the chances are that Pruitt moves to start a freshman next seaon?
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JG has the arm, he just needs the brain. Maybe that'll come over time with him
 
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k-town_king said:
So being one of the top rated SEC qbs with some top 4 or 5 stats means he isn't an SEC qb?

Beating two top 25 teams and being NPOTW for one of the wins means a qb isn't an SEC qb?

Y'all did that to Dobbs too. Sad.
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Well, Dobbs and Guarantano are now the only 2 QBs to lose to Vandy twice in 90 years. So they've got that, too.

And I just looked at ESPN, and JGs highest ranking is 6th (yards/attempt). Everything else is 8th or worse.

12th in completions, 13th in attempts, 8th in percentage, 11th in yards, 17th in longest, 11th in TDs, 8th in rating.
 
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I felt like JG had a must play contract. JJ was told he could compete for the job (lie) and would not even receive practice passes from JG at one time. Pure speculation. Must play contracts are a cancer precursor.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Well, Dobbs and Guarantano are now the only 2 QBs to lose to Vandy twice in 90 years. So they've got that, too.

And I just looked at ESPN, and JGs highest ranking is 6th (yards/attempt). Everything else is 8th or worse.

12th in completions, 13th in attempts, 8th in percentage, 11th in yards, 17th in longest, 11th in TDs, 8th in rating.
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5th ypa, 2nd interceptions.

And before the aberration of Vandy, one of his two worst games, he was top four in rating, completion percentage and ypa.

Long pass is not a stat you judge a qbs performance on. That is why it isn't listed in the relevant stats. An option qb could have a 99 yard pass. That doesnt mean he is a good passer.

Attempts are a combination of coaching philosophy, defensive stops, and all offensive players ability to extend drives. If we didn't have so many drive killing false starts or holds he would have many more attempts. Also if the coaches weren't so conservative due to the line or philosophy.

Completions go along with the attempts.

Top four in percentage and rating the whole year. He did have a bad game that brought that down.


Either way he is CLEARLY a SEC qb. Same with Dobbs.

Most people and the outsiders see that a sophomore first year starter with two top 25 wins and who completed 62% plus with a 4/1 td/int ratio and 140 rating is a great asset to have returning to start next year.
 
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k-town_king said:
5th ypa, 2nd interceptions.

And before the aberration of Vandy, one of his two worst games, he was top four in rating, completion percentage and ypa.

Long pass is not a stat you judge a qbs performance on. That is why it isn't listed in the relevant stats. An option qb could have a 99 yard pass. That doesnt mean he is a good passer.

Attempts are a combination of coaching philosophy, defensive stops, and all offensive players ability to extend drives. If we didn't have so many drive killing false starts or holds he would have many more attempts. Also if the coaches weren't so conservative due to the line or philosophy.

Completions go along with the attempts.

Top four in percentage and rating the whole year. He did have a bad game that brought that down.


Either way he is CLEARLY a SEC qb. Same with Dobbs.

Most people and the outsiders see that a sophomore first year starter with two top 25 wins and who completed 62% plus with a 4/1 td/int ratio and 140 rating is a great asset to have returning to start next year.
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Where are you getting 4th in ypa? Tua, Fromm, Ta'amu, Bentley, and Lock (tied for 5th with JG so I'll give you that much) are higher. You really can't count.
 

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#171
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k-town_king said:
5th ypa, 2nd interceptions.

And before the aberration of Vandy, one of his two worst games, he was top four in rating, completion percentage and ypa.

Long pass is not a stat you judge a qbs performance on. That is why it isn't listed in the relevant stats. An option qb could have a 99 yard pass. That doesnt mean he is a good passer.

Attempts are a combination of coaching philosophy, defensive stops, and all offensive players ability to extend drives. If we didn't have so many drive killing false starts or holds he would have many more attempts. Also if the coaches weren't so conservative due to the line or philosophy.

Completions go along with the attempts.

Top four in percentage and rating the whole year. He did have a bad game that brought that down.


Either way he is CLEARLY a SEC qb. Same with Dobbs.

Most people and the outsiders see that a sophomore first year starter with two top 25 wins and who completed 62% plus with a 4/1 td/int ratio and 140 rating is a great asset to have returning to start next year.
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Is this Vandy game part of the season? If you're not going to include that, can I take away the Auburn game?
 
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k-town_king said:
5th ypa, 2nd interceptions.

And before the aberration of Vandy, one of his two worst games, he was top four in rating, completion percentage and ypa.

Long pass is not a stat you judge a qbs performance on. That is why it isn't listed in the relevant stats. An option qb could have a 99 yard pass. That doesnt mean he is a good passer.

Attempts are a combination of coaching philosophy, defensive stops, and all offensive players ability to extend drives. If we didn't have so many drive killing false starts or holds he would have many more attempts. Also if the coaches weren't so conservative due to the line or philosophy.

Completions go along with the attempts.

Top four in percentage and rating the whole year. He did have a bad game that brought that down.


Either way he is CLEARLY a SEC qb. Same with Dobbs.

Most people and the outsiders see that a sophomore first year starter with two top 25 wins and who completed 62% plus with a 4/1 td/int ratio and 140 rating is a great asset to have returning to start next year.
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4 of the 7 above JG in rating are back next year. So he's already just 5th.
 
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k-town_king said:
JG is behind just Tua and Fromm as far as returning qbs. Qb rating point or two difference it doesn't matter. He is better than Franks and Bentley.
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He's behind Franks and Bentley in rating. That's not better than them. My god, you can't even even count. He's behind both of them in yards, completions, TDs, rating. Only ahead of Franks in percentage. That is not better.
 
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k-town_king said:
JG is behind just Tua and Fromm as far as returning qbs. Qb rating point or two difference it doesn't matter. He is better than Franks and Bentley.
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Bentley has double the TDs, 800 more yards, 2 percentage points on completions, 14 points on the rating. But yeah, JG is better. You're so dumb.
 
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