Publicly declaring "This team is no good"

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VOLorNuttin

VOLorNuttin

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...all season long is why this team quit on Dooley yesterday. He's been the most (publicly) critical coach I've ever seen, calling out his players before the media when they have the flu and such. Every interview has had some negative tint to it. This is why he has had no success in his HC'ing tenure, and will have little to none in the future.

If Gary Patterson were named the new head coach two weeks from now, I doubt many players would be disappointed.
 
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So if CDD is critical of the players he's "Throwing them under the bus".
If he builds them up he's "Babying them" and sugar coating the situation for the fanbase.

Seems like hes in a no win situation.

I always appericated it when my coaches/superiors were straight with me and others about our performances. I made it so that when I DID do well (which wasnt often) and received praise I knew it was genuine. Thats just how Im geared though, I know everyones not wired like that.
 
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In the real world (the private sector) this team and coaching staff would be fired for poor performance.:redface:
 
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ShanMan said:
So if CDD is critical of the players he's "Throwing them under the bus".
If he builds them up he's "Babying them" and sugar coating the situation for the fanbase.

Seems like hes in a no win situation.

I always appericated it when my coaches/superiors were straight with me and others about our performances. I made it so that when I DID do well (which wasnt often) and received praise I knew it was genuine. Thats just how Im geared though, I know everyones not wired like that.
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If your boss takes you into his office and "tells you like it is," that's fine. But broadcasting it to the whole office is totally unprofessional, either in the Military or civilian sector.
 
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The only thing he could possibly gain by continually reminding everybody (publicly) of how bad this team is would be to garner sympathy when things go bad.

You tell somebody under you that they suck long enough they will eventually believe it, or quit on you.

Most people that follow the UT program understood what he took over, we don't need a history lesson. We need a coach that has the attitude and is able to fix the problem. Not one that is looking for sympathy because things are bad. Right now, we are getting neither.
 
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As others have said, he should be straight with them, brutally honest even, in the context of constructive criticism and motivation BUT that should be done one on one and out of the media.

To do what he does publicly shows that he's studied more military history than we thought. He uses critical info r personal details about the players publicly to lay down cover for himself.

He will say generically that coaching wasn't good and that they will get things "fixed" (nice and vague), but he doesn't publicly criticize his own performance or his staffs in the specific areas of motivation, creating a culture of success, team unity and game planning. Instead he mentions the running game, which gives the appearance of discussing coaching by directing attention to an assistant or two and asking heat away from the other issues I just mentioned, because those issues ultimately point directly at him.

I think he is a good guy but he seems to lawyerly, too crafty, and too interested in self-preservation. We need a leader and a teacher, not just a recruiter and CEO type. We need someone who can take lesser talent "coach 'em up", and after two seasons we can evaluate this staffs ability to do that.

Assessment: they've failed miserably at it. He needs to analyze the program from the top down, and he needs consultative help to do it b/c it needs to include a review of himself too. Hopefully Hart can help with that.
 
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If Dooley thinks this team isn't that good, then he shouldn't even talk to the media. No real reason to rehash what every fan already knows right now.
 
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Lots of coaches tell the media like it is. If he sat back and pumped sunshine after the Arkansistan game we would've all said, "This guy is completely out of touch with reality!" The point is if you look at this roster and all the injuries you really don't have much talent. He!! we gave schollies to more walk-ons this year than probably ever at UT. Dooley deserves a better roster than what he was left with. But that's the reason we are here in the 1st place
 
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This is what I've thought all year. That snippet struck me as strange because I don't think I've ever heard a coach call his team (whose performance he is responsible for) "bad".

You get what you put in and you got what you deserve, Dooley.
 
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This disturbed me as well. Labelling people empowers them to be what they are labelled. Dooley doesn't seem to be managing well and that's the thing he was supposed to be good at. Although this has been a tough year I'm not sure he's capable of consistantly getting excellence out of his players. I'm tired of getting disappointed and wish something would change.
 
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Dooley is far from an experienced head coach. He is learning the job of how to be a head coach and the UT team is learning how to play. It's what we got when it was decided he would be the coach. That is the real reason here we are losing. Inexperience at both the coaching level and at the player level.
 
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Not defending Dooley, but he's telling it like it is. It'd be a bigger joke if he went out and said we're a great team that's unlucky, or something close to that.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
...all season long is why this team quit on Dooley yesterday. He's been the most (publicly) critical coach I've ever seen, calling out his players before the media when they have the flu and such. Every interview has had some negative tint to it. This is why he has had no success in his HC'ing tenure, and will have little to none in the future.

If Gary Patterson were named the new head coach two weeks from now, I doubt many players would be disappointed.
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Wrong. It would have been wrong to say something like that before the season ended. Now that the season is over, he is just stating the obvious. It's not like it's a surprise to most of us. We knew the realities going into this season and that we were far outmanned in talent. This is nothing but people trying to be disruptive and turn everything he says into something negative.
 
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govols120 said:
Not defending Dooley, but he's telling it like it is. It'd be a bigger joke if he went out and said we're a great team that's unlucky, or something close to that.
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or he could take the blame himself and say him and his staff need to do a better job.
 
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govols120 said:
Which is true. But saying "we're not a good team" is also true.
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He's going about it the wrong way. He says it week after week and the players are taking a negative mentality to it. He needs to be a leader and take responsibility. Everyone knew this team wouldn't win the NC this year, but the players are listening to their coach put them down because "they're young and not good, but that's ok".
 
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