Pruitt's record as coach....

[Cartervol]

Excuse? No it’s just facts. Let’s use UGA. Which roster has the advantage? QB? UGA. RB? Push. WRs? UGA. TE? Push. OL? TN. Defense? All UGA.

UF?
QB- UF
RB- TN
WRs- UF
TE- lol
DL- UF
LBs- UF
DBs- TN

Bama?
QB- Bama
RBs- Bama
WRs- Bama
TE- Bama
OL- TN
Defense- Bama

It was fact against Ole Miss too. SC beats UGA regularly as well, same can be said for their roster compared to UGA. We failed totally in the second half, team and on the sidelines.

 

[igotworms]

Sorry, year three, you don’t give up 44 points to ANYONE. Pathetic. This excuse is no longer acceptable. Losing maybe, but not getting manhandled like we did. Talk about change in culture all you want, but giving up 40+ to GA in subsequent game is NOT TN football.
This was a loss by heart and passion. Period. And that is all on the Head Coach. Same problem as we had with Dooley and Jones. We have better athletes but they are still getting whipped and giving up.

Why be sorry then?

 

[Rickyvol77]

It was fact against Ole Miss too. SC beats UGA regularly as well, same can be said for their roster compared to UGA. We failed totally in the second half, team and on the sidelines.

Did Ole Miss win? oh...no they didn't AND they lost to UK too, a team Pruitt owns

And South Carolina doesn't beat UGA "regularly" and to suggest so is crazy

 

[McDad]

The 20 plus point beatdowns have to stop.

Of course they do. By definition to win the game we cannot be outscored by 20 points.

Even though the score was similar, are you saying there is no discernible difference between the last UGA game and the 2 UGA games from the previous 2 years?

 

[05_never_again]

Disagree. Our roster isn't comparable, on paper at least, to Bama or GA. We have to change something in recruiting to win more of those battles. GA and Bama are feasting on the same 4 and 5-stars we are going after.

Our blowout losses to UF are inexcusable IMO. The roster differences there aren't near as great.

I know I'll get flamed for this, but I'm not sure we can beat Alabama and Georgia in the recruiting rankings as long as those current staffs are there. Demographics would seem to suggest that we just simply cannot out-recruit Georgia, period. They simply have too many good players located in close proximity to the school, and their current HC is a great recruiter. And the greatest coach/recruiter in the history of the sport is at Alabama and just recruits itself.

That doesn't mean we'll never be able to compete with them, but I don't think we are ever going to outrank them in the recruiting rankings as long as Saban and Kirby are there. Even LSU, which has a large amount of in-state talent, has not been able to out-recruit Alabama and Georgia over the last few years. They still won the SEC and a natty one year though.

 

[Jaws]

Pruitt is 15-13 as a head coach.

That doesn’t mean he won’t turn it around and win a championship.

But it does mean that well into his 3rd season, he remains completely unproven and average-to-below-average as a head coach. Just as a relevant comparison, Will Muschamp was 21-8 after his first 29 games as a head coach.

Time will tell on Pruitt.

 

[McDad]

It's amazing people think UGA is a 85 bears. They figured us out, we never adjusted what we were doing because i think we're limited in what we can do offensively with JG. He's stiff , robotic and just doesn't pick up on stuff quick enough.

Your first sentence is refuting something I (or others) have not asserted.

I agree with the rest of your post.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

It's a question of all of those things. Talent, scheme, preparation, confidence, inspiration, game day awareness (for coaches), adjusting on the fly, ...I mean every single thing comes into play for the ultimate team sport.

If JG is our best option at QB, then the staff hasn’t developed nor recruited that position well since they’ve been here.

Where Pruitt is so locked in on the defense, he doesn’t trust himself putting another QB out there, afraid he might do worse.

It does not make any sense to keep JG out there when clearly he was struggling to maintain the ball or at least throw it away. We’re not talking about a freshman QB, we’re talking about a 5th year senior QB still making freshman mistakes.

So many questions right now.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Of course they do. By definition to win the game we cannot be outscored by 20 points.

Even though the score was similar, are you saying there is no discernible difference between the last UGA game and the 2 UGA games from the previous 2 years?

I was talking about future games. I think our defense is way better compared to last year. If our offense brought their C game in Athens we still lose but not in embarrassing fashion. Unfortunately, everyone on offense including the coaches presented their F game.

 

[Cartervol]

Did Ole Miss win? oh...no they didn't AND they lost to UK too, a team Pruitt owns

And South Carolina doesn't beat UGA "regularly" and to suggest so is crazy

5-5 in the last 10 years Bud. You may want to check on that. I promise UGA has had a better roster every time.

 

[McDad]

Pruitt is 15-13 as a head coach.

That doesn’t mean he won’t turn it around and win a championship.

But it does mean that well into his 3rd season, he remains completely unproven and average-to-below-average as a head coach. Just as a relevant comparison, Will Muschamp was 21-8 after his first 29 games as a head coach.

Time will tell on Pruitt.

I disagree with your chosen method of comparison.

I think a more accurate comparison is UT/Pruitt to Nebraska/Frost and ut/Herman.

 

[Jaws]

I disagree with your chosen method of comparison.

I think a more accurate comparison is UT/Pruitt to Nebraska/Frost and ut/Herman.

Maybe so, I wouldn’t disagree with that. But anyhow you slice it, 15-13 is purely mediocre.

 

[McDad]

If JG is our best option at QB, then the staff hasn’t developed nor recruited that position well since they’ve been here.

Where Pruitt is so locked in on the defense, he doesn’t trust himself putting another QB out there, afraid he might do worse.

It does not make any sense to keep JG out there when clearly he was struggling to maintain the ball or at least throw it away. We’re not talking about a freshman QB, we’re talking about a 5th year senior QB still making freshman mistakes.

So many questions right now.

And this is by nature one of the reasons fan discussion exists. All we see is what's on the field. We are left to surmise, guess, speculate on how and why the coaches are doing the things they're doing.

I don't get JG conundrum, either.

 

[05_never_again]

Pruitt is 15-13 as a head coach.

That doesn’t mean he won’t turn it around and win a championship.

But it does mean that well into his 3rd season, he remains completely unproven and average-to-below-average as a head coach. Just as a relevant comparison, Will Muschamp was 21-8 after his first 29 games as a head coach.

Time will tell on Pruitt.

Muschamp also achieved that 21-8 coaching at a much easier place to recruit to and in an SEC East that wasn't great (Tennessee sucked, Georgia was good but not playing and recruiting at the level Kirby currently has them at, FSU was good but not great). And Muschamp was actually 0-2 against Georgia in the midst of that 21-8 start.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Pruitt is 15-13 as a head coach.

That doesn’t mean he won’t turn it around and win a championship.

But it does mean that well into his 3rd season, he remains completely unproven and average-to-below-average as a head coach. Just as a relevant comparison, Will Muschamp was 21-8 after his first 29 games as a head coach.

Time will tell on Pruitt.

You are what your record says you are. WM inherited a program that won a title two years prior and one year removed from a SECCG appearance. It is on Pruitt change the culture at UT and start winning big games again.

 

[McDad]

Maybe so, I wouldn’t disagree with that. But anyhow you slice it, 15-13 is purely mediocre.

Sure it is. The aggregate is mediocre. But we started the discussion about where we are compared to where we were. 7 of the 13 losses came in the first year. Only time will tell us where the ceiling is with CJP.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Pruitt is 15-13 as a head coach.

That doesn’t mean he won’t turn it around and win a championship.

But it does mean that well into his 3rd season, he remains completely unproven and average-to-below-average as a head coach. Just as a relevant comparison, Will Muschamp was 21-8 after his first 29 games as a head coach.

Time will tell on Pruitt.

Um Will Muschamp as HC

at Florida
7-6 (3-5) - 0-5 against ranked SEC teams
11-2 (7-1) - good season but needed 4 close wins including a punt return to beat La-Lafayette at the end of the game)
4-8 (3-5) - lost to Ga Southern, Vandy, etc.
6-5 (4-4) - Beat UK and UT on questionable last second refs calls

at SC
6-7 (3-5) - beat Vandy, ECU, UMass, UT, Western Carolina in close games
9-4 (5-3) - decent season
7-6 (4-4) - beat Mizzou, UT, Ole MIss in close games which was good
4-8 (3-5) - Lost to everyone BUT UGA in fluke game
1-2 (1-2) - Loses to Pruitt again

I wouldn't put too much stock in this comparison or the situation Muschamp inherited at Florida being the same as Pruitt did here...

Pruitt does have a lot to prove but I wouldnt be bragging about the Chump's record as proof

 

[Rickyvol77]

Your first sentence is refuting something I (or others) have not asserted.

I agree with the rest of your post.

lol it's hilarious that some have to throw out asisine statements and pretend that UGA isn't one of the top teams in the country

 

[butchna]

They had the snap count timed. They got such a good jump i'm not sure anyone could of blocked that effectively. That's up to your QB and OC, head coach to get together and change something. They knew after the half exactly when we were snapping the ball. They picked up on something. Goes back to the JG is too robotic argument, it was a factor there.

Like when Alex Brown and the Gators did it against Tee Martin in 99?

 

[Cartervol]

Like when Alex Brown and the Gators did it against Tee Martin in 99?

How many times had Tennessee beaten UF at Florida during the Spurrier years, i'll hang up and listen. UF was Fulmer's unicorn. The gameplan was always butt tight and conservative and Steve feasted on that over and over again again.

 

[butchna]

How many times had Tennessee beaten UF at Florida during the Spurrier years, i'll hang up and listen. UF was Fulmer's unicorn. The gameplan was always butt tight and conservative and Steve feasted on that over and over again again.

We were talking about not switching up the snap count? Always said Spurrier outcoached is...even when we won. That was Jon Hoke as the DC in this reference.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Pruitt is 15-13 as a head coach.

That doesn’t mean he won’t turn it around and win a championship.

But it does mean that well into his 3rd season, he remains completely unproven and average-to-below-average as a head coach. Just as a relevant comparison, Will Muschamp was 21-8 after his first 29 games as a head coach.

Time will tell on Pruitt.

At this point Ed Orgeron as a HC was 13-18

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

It's amazing people think UGA are the 85 bears. They figured us out, we never adjusted what we were doing because i think we're limited in what we can do offensively with JG. He's stiff , robotic and just doesn't pick up on stuff quick enough.

Nobody is saying UGAs defense is like the 85 Bears. But they are as elite as it gets in the college level. Stats prove that.

 

[Cartervol]

We were talking about not switching up the snap count? Always said Spurrier outcoached is...even when we won. That was Jon Hoke as the DC in this reference.

He does a slap thing in shotgun. Anyway he's tipping them off somehow, i can't see close enough to figure it out , but if you watched the linebacker would sneak up there and was basically in the line of scrimmage as he snapped the ball. Morris got beat badly and the RB's got ran through several times. I would of a least had that guy thinking about when he was going to jump into that line... Nobody thinks JG can win a game for us. The RB's had been stonewalled all day so they sent 8 -9 most of the second half. It was ineptitude that made it worse.

 

[GoVols64]

Agreed.
The improvement is apparent for any objective person to see. This year is most certainly a better start than last year. The team looks prepared to play each game which is something I couldn't say the previous two seasons. We are competing hard but we still have a few key pieces to sort out to put together a complete team.
Even some of our fan expectation is an indicator things are trending in the right direction. We were mostly optimistic about our chances against GA if we caught a lucky break or two. Some were even confident we could win without an assist from luck. These expectations are not something we've seen around here since Kiffin...or maybe even Butch in Dobbs' senior year. We were a double digit dog for a UGA home game...but we had hope in a victory. And, we were on track for a half. I haven't seen that in a long time.

We need more of this level headed thought. I feel like people expect miracles when we show even the slightest improvement. UGA has a MONSTER defense and they figured us out in the second half. Our much maligned QB hung a couple fantastic throws but cost us points w/turnovers. UGA is a better team, no doubt, but they are not 23 points better. In hindsight the line was pretty accurate if we hold on to the ball and put a couple drives together in the second half.

There is no miracle cure to winning in the SEC. You need talent, depth and proficiency at every position and coaching spot. We have talent, depth is still thin but improving and lack proficiency at QB and RB (at least in pass pro), and LB (11 is the only great LB). That being said we are a FAR better team than last year and we should be competitive with all but a couple teams on the schedule.

Beat KY, play tough and see what happens against Bama then rest up. Keep improving. Stay Healthy. We are on the way back but a decade of mismanagement isn't overcome in a couple years no matter how badly you want it to be different. CJP is a good coach and has us back in the conversation. Anyone who doesn't see this is willfully ignorant at best.