Pruitt vs chip kelly

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05_never_again said:
Or Muschamp. Muschamp totally flamed out at Florida and might be fired by South Carolina after this year. Dude is the archetypal great coordinator, bad head coach. Unfortunately, we might have one of those too.
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Thats another one. He hasn't been terrible at SC but Spurrier now being the bar has him in the crosshairs.

Sumlin wasn't terrible at A&M just didn't make sense why he couldn't win more there if he was that good. Gets fired, goes to Arizona and has a similar record to Pruitt with a loss to a 3-9 Chip Kelly team and playing in a much weaker conference. Strong has had 1 good year since Louisville and couldn't win more than 6 games in a season at Texas.

Its interesting to watch some fall all over themselves because one of their guys didn't get picked and at that group hasn't proven to be much better if any.
 
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OriginalCoach said:
We will see how far Kelly has came along this weekend vs OU
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OU is going to break one off in UCLA....lol.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
I'd much rather have Pruitt. Not to say that I know whether Pruitt will be successful or not, but he has a blueprint that has worked successfully in the past (strong recruiting, great player development).

The problem with Chip Kelly is that his success at Oregon basically came down to a few magical factors:

(a) inheriting a great situation from Mike Bellotti, including a strong staff that he could lean on,
(b) out-scheming opponents with an innovative offense that defenses weren't prepared for,
(c) recruiting underrated talent with speed, but still getting a reasonable enough share of talent so they were ranked in the 20s in the recruiting rankings,
(d) having Nike's big money to help lure in recruits

He doesn't have any of those elements at UCLA. He does, however, have a much better recruiting footprint in his backyard, but Kelly has always been a terrible recruiter, so this advantage is being completely squandered. And now, every team in the country is prepared for his "innovative offense", because they've recruited and developed players for years to stop those types of offenses (whereas, they were caught completely off-guard in the early 10s).

Kelly doesn't get the advantage of inheriting Bellotti's staff this time around, which quite honestly, was comparable to the staff Fulmer inherited from Johnny Majors. Bellotti was excellent at building up that program over the long-run.

Chip Kelly's record at Oregon was phenomenal, but I've said this 2 years ago when everyone wanted to hire him: he's the most overrated coach in college football. I was praying that Florida would get him, because we'd be 4-0 against a Chip Kelly coached Florida team. He's basically RichRod, except with a much worse personality and deep hatred for recruiting. Not a recipe for long-term success.

If we're being honest, Chip Kelly is a great high school coach who hit the jackpot by being in the right place at the right time, but who otherwise, is still probably better cut out to be a high school coach.
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I wanted him. But, looking deeper and seeing the current results in a place where USC is down, Chip aint looking so good. That's why you shouldn't put too much stock in fan opinion. :confused:
 
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BeecherVol said:
Thats another one. He hasn't been terrible at SC but Spurrier now being the bar has him in the crosshairs.

Sumlin wasn't terrible at A&M just didn't make sense why he couldn't win more there if he was that good. Gets fired, goes to Arizona and has a similar record to Pruitt with a loss to a 3-9 Chip Kelly team and playing in a much weaker conference. Strong has had 1 good year since Louisville and couldn't win more than 6 games in a season at Texas.

Its interesting to watch some fall all over themselves because one of their guys didn't get picked and at that group hasn't proven to be much better if any.
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Charlie Strong is the most surprising to me. I always thought he'd make a good head coach and he did at Louisville.

Then, he never could succeed at Texas, but you thought maybe it was because the fans never game him a chance. They were negative on him from the very get-go.

But now, he looks awful at USF. Had the one good season when he took over, but all downhill since then.

At this point, Charlie Strong doesn't look any better than Butch Jones. And just like Josh Dobbs hid Butch's deficiencies, maybe Teddy Bridgewater hid Strong's.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Charlie Strong is the most surprising to me. I always thought he'd make a good head coach and he did at Louisville.

Then, he never could succeed at Texas, but you thought maybe it was because the fans never game him a chance. They were negative on him from the very get-go.

But now, he looks awful at USF. Had the one good season when he took over, but all downhill since then.

At this point, Charlie Strong doesn't look any better than Butch Jones. And just like Josh Dobbs hid Butch's deficiencies, maybe Lamar Jackson hid Strong's.
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Strong never coached Lamar Jackson.
 
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RollerVol said:
well, Chip should be able to recruit better at UCLA...he's a been there, done that coach, so overall I'd say Chip is better, right now...he needs some time just like Coach Pruitt does...this question will be better answered in about 2-3 years...:D

GO BIG ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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But Kelly isn't recruiting better. And no I would rather have Pruitt than Kelly anyway. Kelly wouldn't be a disaster recruiting the south, he can't even recruit the west. GBO!
 
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Kelly was the flavor of the month, the one on everybody's short list (you know, the ones who everybody thinks is too good for U.T.). Pruitt was a bargain basement hire, so if Kelly is a bust (and he looks like he's on the way), the Vols come off looking smarter. FWIW.
 
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"Chip Kelly's record at Oregon was phenomenal, but I've said this 2 years ago when everyone wanted to hire him: he's the most overrated coach in college football."

There's a head coach at Michigan that would like a word with you.
 
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Chip Kelly is a proven winner in college. Has a great name and reputation. Yet for some reason he is struggling. Funny but I thought proven winners were sure fire guys who will exceed no matter what.

So obviously Kelly sucks and UCLA should fire him right?
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Charlie Strong is the most surprising to me. I always thought he'd make a good head coach and he did at Louisville.

Then, he never could succeed at Texas, but you thought maybe it was because the fans never game him a chance. They were negative on him from the very get-go.

But now, he looks awful at USF. Had the one good season when he took over, but all downhill since then.

At this point, Charlie Strong doesn't look any better than Butch Jones. And just like Josh Dobbs hid Butch's deficiencies, maybe Teddy Bridgewater hid Strong's.
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Also once they got a new AD in there they never showed much support for him internally
 
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Right now they are back to back in the coaches fired first this season odds from Vegas. Though Charlie Strong and Willie Taggert are the runaway favorites right now in Vegas. Coaches Hot Seat still has Pruitt #1 and Kelly #2. CFBNews has Pruitt #1 and Kelly #3 in their coaches who must start winning category. Chatsports.com has Pruitt #1 and Kelly at #10 on their hot seat ranking. So performance vs expectations at a program sees Pruitt as being in more trouble and performing worse currently than Kelly. Kelly has been more disappointing because more was expected of him. Both have been terrible, this year, Pruitt has been worse. GSU is inexcusable.
 
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05_never_again said:
I agree with everything except that last part. A Chip Kelly Florida team would still look like a national title contender only the week they played us. It's just fate at this point.

Some people appear to be baffled at Kelly's struggles in Philly, San Francisco, and now with UCLA. I think what those folks don't understand or appreciate is that Kelly has never built anything. You are correct in that what he did at Oregon is very similar to what Fulmer did at Tennessee - inherit a solid program and take it to new heights. Perhaps Kelly is ill-suited for rebuilding or starting something from scratch. Plus, everybody runs some version of his offense now it seems like.
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You are right, it doesn't matter what fl does before or after the TN game they will be great for those 60 minutes.
 
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Volfan93 said:
First post on here just wanted to get opinions on which coach yā€™all think is doing better Pruitt or chip Kelly
Go Vols
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Chip Kelly will be out of football in a year or two. If Pruitt doesn't make it as an HC someone will gladly have him as a DC.
 
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