Pruitt: This is what we have to do, and we have to do it together

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So you don’t agree with peaceful protests to improve race relations in the United States?

I think you can leave out the “If any of” part of your post.
Which peaceful protests? The one that attacked an elderly woman, the one where a handicapped women was hit, the ones where black people got shot, or the ones where white business owners were dragged in the street and beaten?

These peaceful protests have killed more unarmed black people than police did last year
 
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So you don’t agree with peaceful protests to improve race relations in the United States?

I think you can leave out the “If any of” part of your post.
1. I believe in anybody's right to peacefully protest--red, yellow, black or white (they're all precious in His sight, right?). That's one of the things that makes America great.
2. I absolutely do not believe in anybody's right to loot and burn.
3, I despise demagogues who tell others their opinion doesn't matter because it doesn't match theirs. People like you are dangerous to freedom
4. 'Protests to improve race relations'? Ha, good job.
 
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Pruitt is the man in charge here. He is trusted. We all support him and he can make things happen with Fulmer on top. He loves his team. He won't abandon them. And he knows what he is doing. Also the intangible that is rare to find has been found with him and that is: He is real and that is seen by the althletes. Back to business, beat Bammer. Take out the revenge and frustration on the field.
 
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1. I believe in anybody's right to peacefully protest--red, yellow, black or white (they're all precious in His sight, right?). That's one of the things that makes America great.
2. I absolutely do not believe in anybody's right to loot and burn.
3, I despise demagogues who tell others their opinion doesn't matter because it doesn't match theirs. People like you are dangerous to freedom
4. 'Protests to improve race relations'? Ha, good job.

People like me are dangerous to freedom? All I said that if you agree with racism, if you don’t agree with PEACEFUL protests to enhance race relations, then your opinion doesn’t matter.
 
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Which peaceful protests? The one that attacked an elderly woman, the one where a handicapped women was hit, the ones where black people got shot, or the ones where white business owners were dragged in the street and beaten?

These peaceful protests have killed more unarmed black people than police did last year

See first post on this thread.
 
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I agree with the coach who said that some of you all are the same people who worship these players on the field. But off the field and outside of the stadium you’re the same ones that wouldn’t let a player date your daughter. Or you’re the one who would cross the street if you saw a player walking your direction in the dark.

THAT is the problem with America today. That is why I’ll continue to stand with Pruitt and the players in their support of peaceful protests.
 
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People against these rioting criminals can still be against “racism”
Thats very true. However my question to those hollering about the looting is where was this vocal outrage over Floyd being murdered or the countless other blacks murdered needlessly that go un noticed? Ultimately, the systemic hate and brutality that has poisoned our law enforcement organizations is a far more pressing issue than someone stealing a TV from Electronic Express. The looting is a symptom, not the root cause of the problem.
 
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1. I believe in anybody's right to peacefully protest--red, yellow, black or white (they're all precious in His sight, right?). That's one of the things that makes America great.
2. I absolutely do not believe in anybody's right to loot and burn.
3, I despise demagogues who tell others their opinion doesn't matter because it doesn't match theirs. People like you are dangerous to freedom
4. 'Protests to improve race relations'? Ha, good job.

Opinions are the types of food you like or sports team you cheer for. There is no room for opinion on racism.
 
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I have dumped all professional sports over this democrat nonsense and I will dump the Vols if the Vols officially side with the democrat nonsense that America is racist, whites are racists and our country needs to change into a democrat communist utopia over these lies. The police are not racist or against blacks--another democrat lie. Individuals in all organizations, including the police, make mistakes and even do things clearly wrong. That does not mean that we need to use those few bad actors to push a democrat lie to smear our country and whites in general. Our country and whites have done more for this world than all other people and countries combined in history. Period. That is a fact. These protests are not peaceful and they are being organized by leftist democrat groups, including Black Lives Matter. Sports are just entertainment and not that important to me and when politics gets sold with sports I am out.
 
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I agree with the coach who said that some of you all are the same people who worship these players on the field. But off the field and outside of the stadium you’re the same ones that wouldn’t let a player date your daughter. Or you’re the one who would cross the street if you saw a player walking your direction in the dark.

THAT is the problem with America today. That is why I’ll continue to stand with Pruitt and the players in their support of peaceful protests.
You don’t know any of us so for you to say that shows your youth and emotional intelligence. You are projecting
 
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Thats very true. However my question to those hollering about the looting is where was this vocal outrage over Floyd being murdered or the countless other blacks murdered needlessly that go un noticed? Ultimately, the systemic hate and brutality that has poisoned our law enforcement organizations is a far more pressing issue than someone stealing a TV from Electronic Express. The looting is a symptom, not the root cause of the problem.
“Unnoticed”? Nearly everyone was outraged about Floyd even though he himself was a scumbag. The officer was in the wrong and is being punished.

“Countless other blacks”. The numbers don’t reflect this myth
 
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"Who is saying that some lives don't matter? News to me.... "

You are either incredibly dishonest or you are living under a rock. Democrats are saying all lives don't matter and if you say they do all matter you will be attacked by democrats. Go out to the riot with a sign that says "all lives matter" and see what happens.
 
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I have yet to hear ANYONE stand up and say "The cops actions were correct..I'm supporting the cops for killing Mr. Floyd"
IF...public official HAD taken that position..I'd be a heck of a lot more sympathetic to the protestors. (There's NO CHANCE I will be sympathetic to felons rioting in the streets, for any reason, PERIOD).
SOOooo...I gotta ask..since NOBODY has stood up for the cops, the cops have been charged with SERIOUS crimes, they are being held in jail..(not back on the street, or under "house arrest"...) WHAT THE f*** DO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROTESTING, RIOTING, ETC..ACTUALLY WANT..????
Do ya think we could have avoided all these terrible crimes...arson, looting, felonious attacks..etc,etc perpetrated on INNOCENT people..if the Mayor of Minneapolis had dragged the cops involved in Mr. Floyd's death out into the street and shot'em all in the head on live TV.???
Ya think that might have made these people happy..???
 
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These riots, protests and all the false racism talk from the leftist democrats is just a means of anti-white racism. It is all directed at whites to make people hate whites because whites are standing in the way of communism. The most racist people in America are blacks, and even blacks know that but they illogically rationalize it and say they have the right to be racist (and they cannot be racist) for "social justice".
 
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---First point---

Some say: No justice, no peace. Black Lives Matter. I can't breathe.

Some say: Destructive rioting is always wrong. All Lives Matter. Don't destroy your own community.

But which comes first? It's a chicken-and-egg problem. How do we move forward when each side demands change of the other?

Someone has to go first. Someone has to show that the other side's grievances are being heard and things are being done to make our future better. In other words, someone has to lead.

I personally think the leadership has to come from those with the greatest power (in this case, defined as access to the most lethal force). That's the law enforcement community.

We as a society have to show--no, have to prove--to our fellow citizens of ALL stripes that we care about them and want injustice to stop. We all need to do this. Black and white, brown and yellow, catholic and muslim, protestant and jew and athiest, rural and urban, old and young.

It's on all of us to show that. To show we care for each other.

I think this is more or less what CJP and the lads who spoke were saying. At least, the more insightful of them, those who can see and understand both sides of the issue.

So yes, I absolutely support their message. It's part of the way forward.

---Second point---

Ideally, all people in a position of power, particularly the police and other law enforcement agents who have the extraordinary authority to wield deadly force, immediately begin to treat all their fellow citizens with the same care and respect they would give to their own children. No one dies of a knee on the neck then. No one gets shot out of fear then.

Ideally, all those who protest injustice do so without violence, and without destruction, and without a desire to bring about anarchy. No innocent shop owner's livelihood is destroyed then. No one's home is gutted then.

But we don't live in an ideal world. There will always be "that one." The policeman with hate eating at his guts, who might be racist, who might be misogynist, who violates the values his uniform stands for. And on the other side, the anarchist who brings a baseball bat, a knife, a shotgun, or a gas can to a protest, just looking for a chance to use it.

So we, as a society, have to recognize that evil exists in the occasional twisted individual--on both sides. We can't condemn every police agency everywhere because of one sick individual. We can't condemn every young black man everywhere because of one violent criminal. We can't condemn every protester everywhere because of one crazed anarchist in their midst.

Instead, the police forces of our nation police themselves better. Find and remove the sicko before he can hurt anyone. The communities of our country stand up more strongly against their own bad apples; restore community values. And when we do gather to protest or otherwise express ourselves, we collectively refuse to shield the one among us carrying the weapon.

It will take everyone, on every side, helping to police themselves, so that things don't go off the rails.

We're never gonna live in an ideal world. But it can be a heck of a lot better than it is now, if we all _first_ put our own houses in order.

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Sorry, I rambled on. Been thinking about these two points, particularly the latter, for several days now, and this is the best i've been able to come up with so far. It's a tough issue.

Go Vols!
Well said sir.
 
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I have yet to hear ANYONE stand up and say "The cops actions were correct..I'm supporting the cops for killing Mr. Floyd"
IF...public official HAD taken that position..I'd be a heck of a lot more sympathetic to the protestors. (There's NO CHANCE I will be sympathetic to felons rioting in the streets, for any reason, PERIOD).
SOOooo...I gotta ask..since NOBODY has stood up for the cops, the cops have been charged with SERIOUS crimes, they are being held in jail..(not back on the street, or under "house arrest"...) WHAT THE f*** DO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE PROTESTING, RIOTING, ETC..ACTUALLY WANT..????
Do ya think we could have avoided all these terrible crimes...arson, looting, felonious attacks..etc,etc perpetrated on INNOCENT people..if the Mayor of Minneapolis had dragged the cops involved in Mr. Floyd's death out into the street and shot'em all in the head on live TV.???
Ya think that might have made these people happy..???
Exactly, and that is one of the things that pizzes me off about all of this stuff...and after this, I'm done talking about it because the whole thing has grown tiresome. My question is, at what point in time did we finally come to the foregone conclusion that America is a racist country? We used to have discussions and disagreements about it, based on OPINIONS. Now, sometime during the past couple of years, we have everyone act as though it is simply a fact that we are all racists---cops who put their lives on the line to protect us are a bunch of racists just looking to shoot black people. I reject this premise and I don't care how many politicians, coaches, ball players, movie stars, etc come out and pretend it's true. To me, that is where the difference of opinion lies, not in the absurd canard of how wrong it is to be racist.
 
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"I respectfully disagree. There is no worthwhile opposite opinion of standing against racism. "

Your entire premise is false. There is no America is racist problem--that is a democrat lie. People pointing out this lie are not an "opposite opinion of standing against racism". They are standing against democrat leftism that is using fake racism to destroy America for their communist revolution.
 
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Unfortunately, most of America has forgotten what the first amendment of the constitution is.

Social ridicule, blame, or hate is not going to solve anything either. We are all Americans. Lets do what Morgan Freeman suggested and stop referring to each other as " African, Caucasian, Indian, or whatever American"... Lets just be Americans.

I completely disagree with the hate. I want change. But change is often hard fought.

I want to swap hate into love.

Hard times for our country. Hard times. We all need to pray.

May peace, love, and unity join all of our heart as we navigate through this awful time.

I am personally proud to be and American. I love my country, my vols, my flag, and my FREEDOM!!!!

GOD BLESS THE USA!!!

You understand prayer is the last thing people will do and the god they'll pray to will not be the God of the Bible.
 

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