Pruitt still coaching in the past...

[Dougie_D]

We’ve heard it before... offense wins games but defense wins championships...
Well, I think that trend is flipped. Just a theory, but I think our problem is that Pruitt is too defensive minded and thinks you can win with your defense. After the firing of a DL coach, this proves that he’s willing to make a quick change to defense than the offense. So now his mind to the offense is “I trust you guys to figure it out”- to Chaney, Tee, Weinke, Graham, etc... I think the offense players feel a disconnect to other players. And it gets dirty in the locker room. Who knows if the offensive coaches are on the same page?

 

[tbones0711]

Do all of us a favor and quit posting without confirmation. It's 6:30 a.m EST and your post is 40 minutes old. Show me the media outlet that "confirmed" that Pruitt fired DLine coach Brumbaugh. There's all kinds of circumstances that could surround this supposed departure.

 

[74charger]

Just In: Vols DL Coach Jimmy Brumbaugh Relieved of Duties

 

[njvols]

On the Offense side, I think Pruitt gets rap that he just wants to run. On the contrary, he's the one pressing Chaney, from what was mentioned, earlier in the year, to get the ball vertical...obviously he want's balance. He was pretty quick to defend each of JG's missteps on where something else broke down, except for the int where he should have checked down. He also defended OL for a pretty good day. Most of his criticism was on D from what I heard. However, of everything he mentioned, or people asked, not one mention of defending the slant... He may have to fire himself if that nonsense keeps up.

 

[Volatility]

I think the Georgia/Alabama game shows you can’t win at the highest level with a game manager at QB. You need a QB who can take over games like Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I think the Georgia/Alabama game shows you can’t win at the highest level with a game manager at QB. You need a QB who can take over games like Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields.

It would be nice to have the 2 Heisman front runners.

 

[aRmo]

Do all of us a favor and quit posting without confirmation. It's 6:30 a.m EST and your post is 40 minutes old. Show me the media outlet that "confirmed" that Pruitt fired DLine coach Brumbaugh. There's all kinds of circumstances that could surround this supposed departure.

so Austin Price and Brent Hubbs posted a video about Bumbaugh getting let go at midnight last night and you wanna bash the guy for having false information 5 hours later? get that crap out of here man.

 

[VolForLife83]

I think the Georgia/Alabama game shows you can’t win at the highest level with a game manager at QB. You need a QB who can take over games like Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields.

I think it proves offense is the new defense. Gone are the days of smash mouth football and the defense wins championship mentality. You've got to score 45+ points. I like Chaney and maybe things will change when we get another QB, but really wish we would have went with someone a little more innovative. That's one thing keeping Saban going for so long, is that he was willing to adapt with the offense.

On the other hand, Im really surprised we're not recruiting better defensively with Pruitt here. He does not seem to have the draw Kirby did at Georgia.

 

[EODVOL]

Do all of us a favor and quit posting without confirmation. It's 6:30 a.m EST and your post is 40 minutes old. Show me the media outlet that "confirmed" that Pruitt fired DLine coach Brumbaugh. There's all kinds of circumstances that could surround this supposed departure.

This comment hasn't aged well.

 

[Dudleys87]

Should have been here but Tennessee can’t get the right HC..

 

[McCat]

We’ve heard it before... offense wins games but defense wins championships...
Well, I think that trend is flipped. Just a theory, but I think our problem is that Pruitt is too defensive minded and thinks you can win with your defense. After the firing of a DL coach, this proves that he’s willing to make a quick change to defense than the offense. So now his mind to the offense is “I trust you guys to figure it out”- to Chaney, Tee, Weinke, Graham, etc... I think the offense players feel a disconnect to other players. And it gets dirty in the locker room. Who knows if the offensive coaches are on the same page?

Gotta have both. Defense worked pretty good the last 2 games for us.

 

[MiramarVol]

Who's TE/ST coach? Climaglia kicks aren't right and we've nothing out of the TE group. They should have been fires 1st.

 

[The Original Fade]

We’ve heard it before... offense wins games but defense wins championships...
Well, I think that trend is flipped. Just a theory, but I think our problem is that Pruitt is too defensive minded and thinks you can win with your defense. After the firing of a DL coach, this proves that he’s willing to make a quick change to defense than the offense. So now his mind to the offense is “I trust you guys to figure it out”- to Chaney, Tee, Weinke, Graham, etc... I think the offense players feel a disconnect to other players. And it gets dirty in the locker room. Who knows if the offensive coaches are on the same page?

So you’re posting that there are problems in the locker room.......please confirm with non-anonymous quotes or links. Or are you just throwing ish against the wall to see if any of it sticks?

 

[savannahfan]

I think the Georgia/Alabama game shows you can’t win at the highest level with a game manager at QB. You need a QB who can take over games like Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields.

Lawrence and Fields....... There ain't many of those guys around..

 

['Boro-vol]

We’ve heard it before... offense wins games but defense wins championships...
Well, I think that trend is flipped. Just a theory, but I think our problem is that Pruitt is too defensive minded and thinks you can win with your defense. After the firing of a DL coach, this proves that he’s willing to make a quick change to defense than the offense. So now his mind to the offense is “I trust you guys to figure it out”- to Chaney, Tee, Weinke, Graham, etc... I think the offense players feel a disconnect to other players. And it gets dirty in the locker room. Who knows if the offensive coaches are on the same page?

Is there a statute against having BOTH? It seems like a defensive minded HC could handle that side of the ball, turn the offense loose to a big-time proven OC, and say "Run-it...I need 35 points per game."

 

[Proud Army Wife]

Is there a statute against having BOTH? It seems like a defensive minded HC could handle that side of the ball, turn the offense loose to a big-time proven OC, and say "Run-it...I need 35 points per game."

That would be my plan. Something like Clemson, OSU, 2017&18 Bama, and 2019 LSU. Would require a dynamic QB to pull it off tho.

 

[cgrish]

On the Offense side, I think Pruitt gets rap that he just wants to run. On the contrary, he's the one pressing Chaney, from what was mentioned, earlier in the year, to get the ball vertical...obviously he want's balance. He was pretty quick to defend each of JG's missteps on where something else broke down, except for the int where he should have checked down. He also defended OL for a pretty good day. Most of his criticism was on D from what I heard. However, of everything he mentioned, or people asked, not one mention of defending the slant... He may have to fire himself if that nonsense keeps up.

You must have not listened to the same press that I did. What I heard was he criticized everyone but jg. He took up for jg. His turnovers were someone elses fault. Qb is the main problem with this team, get this fixed and we have a pretty good team. The whole team plays better when they trust their qb, this has been shown from last year. Ut played with much more intensity when Maurer started and it continue the rest of the season. Now they are not playing with much intensity and I feel it is all because they don't like jg to be continually trotted out there every game.. I noticed no one even talked to jg after his turnovers on the bench,, which is very unusual for that to happen. And Chaney doesn't want to call down field throws for jg, because he just can't do it consistantly, and when he does jg usually checks down unless the receiver is wide open.

 

['Boro-vol]

That would be my plan. Something like Clemson, OSU, 2017&18 Bama, and 2019 LSU. Would require a dynamic QB to pull it off tho.

Tyler Bray did it with Doohickey and Chaney. We just didn't have a defense.

 

[BeecherVol]

Is there a statute against having BOTH? It seems like a defensive minded HC could handle that side of the ball, turn the offense loose to a big-time proven OC, and say "Run-it...I need 35 points per game."

Not at all. Spurrier at UF was a prime example of how to make that work.

You mentioned Chaney above and he would seem to fit the bill given his track record. He's (Chaney) also catching a lot of heat over the past 2 weeks.

My opinion (and could be completely wrong), Pruitt is having a hard time completely trusting Chaney to take the reins. And while that sounds dumb to not allow, its also not the easiest thing to do for a young HC. IF thats what is going on he's going to struggle ever getting it right until he changes.

 

['Boro-vol]

Not at all. Spurrier at UF was a prime example of how to make that work.

You mentioned Chaney above and he would seem to fit the bill given his track record. He's (Chaney) also catching a lot of heat over the past 2 weeks.

My opinion (and could be completely wrong), Pruitt is having a hard time completely trusting Chaney to take the reins. And while that sounds dumb to not allow, its also not the easiest thing to do for a young HC. IF thats what is going on he's going to struggle ever getting it right until he changes.

You mentioned everything I was thinking. If Pruitt, as a defensive minded coach, doesn't fully trust Chaney a couple of things could be true....neither good. Either Chaney isn't as advertised, which hardly seems to be the case based upon his body of work. If this is the case Pruitt's hiring can be called into question. Or Pruitt can't let go of the reigns, which indicates he has control issues and may never be able to get out of his own way.

 

[BeecherVol]

You mentioned everything I was thinking. If Pruitt, as a defensive minded coach, doesn't fully trust Chaney a couple of things could be true....neither good. Either Chaney isn't as advertised, which hardly seems to be the case based upon his body of work. If this is the case Pruitt's hiring can be called into question. Or Pruitt can't let go of the reigns, which indicates he has control issues and may never be able to get out of his own way.

Neither are good and IF its true, I think it has more to do with Pruitt instead of Chaney.

The first requires a new OC and more time to change yet again.
The later, (while not easy) is easier to fix.

The funny thing is you see it with both young and old HC coaches.

 

['Boro-vol]

Neither are good and IF its true, I think it has more to do with Pruitt instead of Chaney.

The first requires a new OC and more time to change yet again.
The later, (while not easy) is easier to fix.

The funny thing is you see it with both young and old HC coaches.

I would have hoped Fulmer would counsel him against control issues, but Phil struggled with the same problem from time to time.

 

[BeecherVol]

I would have hoped Fulmer would counsel him against control issues, but Phil struggled with the same problem from time to time.

Yep. He was the first that came to mind.

I know each person is different but the ".....old dog, new tricks" rings true.

In general, I think its an easier issue to fix for a younger coach.

 

[Dougie_D]

So you’re posting that there are problems in the locker room.......please confirm with non-anonymous quotes or links. Or are you just throwing ish against the wall to see if any of it sticks?

I was just assuming that if somehow these players are disconnected to other players, (defense guys vs offense guys), that the locker room isn’t as friendly as usual.

 

[Dougie_D]

You mentioned everything I was thinking. If Pruitt, as a defensive minded coach, doesn't fully trust Chaney a couple of things could be true....neither good. Either Chaney isn't as advertised, which hardly seems to be the case based upon his body of work. If this is the case Pruitt's hiring can be called into question. Or Pruitt can't let go of the reigns, which indicates he has control issues and may never be able to get out of his own way.

What if Pruitt is actually giving the reigns to Tee Martin to handle Offense duties.. Isnt he the “associate head coach” or something? Plus Tee used to be an OC... Fulmer will favor Tee before Chaney.. maybe Pruitt is afraid to get involved