Pruitt Speaks to SARK and CANADA

[GAVol]

Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't he a coordinator for the past several years before being named interim head coach at Maryland? Didn't they hire someone else besides him? Top notch coordinators get coordinator jobs because that's what they do.

What I'm saying is that every head coach interjects his philosophy. Coordinators know their role going in.

 

[GAVol]

People act like coaches are falling all over themselves to come coach here. To say Oh he didn't take the job because we didn't offer it. Really? Just like it's easier to lie to someone then to convince them they have been lie to. It's easier to say we didn't offer to think someone turned UT down.

It's how things work. Both sides have deniability until the very end. No need to make up a narrative.

 

[LWSVOL]

It doesn't hurt to listen number one, and number 2 it does help his brand to be sought after or wanted. Hey look team X, team Y wants me really bad. If he wanted the job he would have taken it. 6 weeks into the search, pruitt is starting to look desperate the longer he goes without hiring someone.

Remember Mike gundy? He was really interested until he got a raise. It's almost like he used us to get more money, is it possible that's what Canada did? SMH

Dont forget, Pruitt took about 3 weeks off of searching to recruit players. He never even tried to talk to anyone

 

[Behr]

People act like coaches are falling all over themselves to come coach here. To say Oh he didn't take the job because we didn't offer it. Really? Just like it's easier to lie to someone then to convince them they have been lie to. It's easier to say we didn't offer to think someone turned UT down.

I'm sure you understand.

 

[Devo182]

What did they confirm?

Yurcich offer

 

[vfl_gbo]

What I'm saying is that every head coach interjects his philosophy. Coordinators know their role going in.

And that's why they can't hire anyone.

 

[GAVol]

And that's why they can't hire anyone.

Ever notice that all head coaches wear headsets? They're not listening to music.

 

[vfl_gbo]

I'm sure you understand.

And I'm sure you don't.

 

[vfl_gbo]

Ever notice that all head coaches wear headsets? They're not listening to music.

Remember when that post was floating around about Tyson helton putting out the word, And I'm paraphrasing, Don't judge my play calling abilities on what the offense is doing. Do you remember that? It's like he was almost rolling his eyes towards the reason why the office was struggling. Hey, don't blame me, If I was running the all fans it would look better. Or am I looking too deep into the rabbit hole?

Pretty sure up seen pruitt screaming at the top of his lungs to run the dam ball in the Kentucky game.

 

[volfannbama]

The poster is right. CJP is a million times more qualified to make a hire than anyone on this board. He also has an AD that should help him make a great hire. If he knows football and X's and O's as good as most think, which I think he does as well. You don't have to be a CEO for Amazon to know what you are looking for in a great OC. You just challenge him in a mind game of X's and O's to see how quickly he can make changes on the fly and how far he thinks ahead of the D scheme similar to a chess player looking several moves ahead across the whole board.

Couldnt we say that everyone at UT the last decade is more qualified to make hires than we are? And yet....

 

[vfl_gbo]

Couldnt we say that everyone at UT the last decade is more qualified to make hires than we are? And yet....

Based off what? Dooley? Jones? Kiffin? Seems to me they struggle to make hires.

 

[MikeVol44]

So, how does being a good defensive coordinator, translate to automatically being effective at interviewing and evaluating potential employees?

Or are you of the mindset that once hired as the head coach at UT, these personnel management skills just manifested themselves in Pruitt like the holy spirit?

Once again, sir--you are asking the WRONG questions....

CJP has been vetted by 2 other NC winning coaches to be worthy of being a DC in the SEC.
CJP has been vetted by CPF--another NC winning coach--to be worthy of being the HC at Tennessee.

Just what makes you--or anyone else on this board--QUALIFIED to make any intelligent decision concerning CJP's qualifications to hire an elite OC?
How can you--or anyone else--make an intelligent evaluation of CJP's effectiveness in this process?

All you guys can evaluate so far is rumors and innuendos from those idiots who actually think that they know something--the most famous of which is the former coach Doug Matthews, a coach whose greatest claim to fame is that he knows CPF.

And there won't be any true valid evidence concerning the quality of CJP's hire until we've played some SEC games next fall.

Nevertheless--CJP keeps demonstrating his diverse HC talents in building the nucleus of an outstanding recruiting class this year.
Those HS recruits are believing in him and the coaching staff--why can't you?

Once again--please tell me exactly what CJP has done that has given you reason to doubt his ability to hire an elite OC?
Once again--exactly what qualifies you as CJP's coaching peer? I have nothing to qualify me.
Once again--exactly what qualifies you to even evaluate CJP's process of hiring our next OC? I have nothing to qualify me.

Possession of information does not equal intelligence or wisdom any more than knowing the letters of the alphabet enables one to spell gnat!

 

[Devo182]

I just think if offer was made, who in their right mind would take a qb and passing coordinator job for less pay than being the sole oc.With that said maybe Pruitt wanted him to run his offense and he didnt want to do that. No one really knows we are all just thinking or guessing.. and if we really wanted him why wait till ohio state opening came up before offer was made.

It was reported Yurcich's motivation was not money at all, but getting to prove his offense on a bigger stage. Considering OSU is a near shoe-in for a B1G championship game and NY6 bowl every year and their coach is unlikely to bomb in the next few years, I'd say it was the better job. We needed to wrap him up when we had the chance, but it sounds like it had fallen through by the 14th.

 

[Devo182]

Once again, sir--you are asking the WRONG questions....

CJP has been vetted by 2 other NC winning coaches to be worthy of being a DC in the SEC.
CJP has been vetted by CPF--another NC winning coach--to be worthy of being the HC at Tennessee.

Just what makes you--or anyone else on this board--QUALIFIED to make any intelligent decision concerning CJP's qualifications to hire an elite OC?
How can you--or anyone else--make an intelligent evaluation of CJP's effectiveness in this process?

All you guys can evaluate so far is rumors and innuendos from those idiots who actually think that they know something--the most famous of which is the former coach Doug Matthews, a coach whose greatest claim to fame is that he knows CPF.

And there won't be any true valid evidence concerning the quality of CJP's hire until we've played some SEC games next fall.

Nevertheless--CJP keeps demonstrating his diverse HC talents in building the nucleus of an outstanding recruiting class this year.
Those HS recruits are believing in him and the coaching staff--why can't you?

Once again--please tell me exactly what CJP has done that has given you reason to doubt his ability to hire an elite OC?
Once again--exactly what qualifies you as CJP's coaching peer? I have nothing to qualify me.
Once again--exactly what qualifies you to even evaluate CJP's process of hiring our next OC? I have nothing to qualify me.

Possession of information does not equal intelligence or wisdom any more than knowing the letters of the alphabet enables one to spell gnat!

Let's see - his first 2 coordinator hires were Sherrer (doesn't call plays) and Helton...

Besides, this is a message board, what else are we supposed to do?

 

[MikeVol44]

Couldnt we say that everyone at UT the last decade is more qualified to make hires than we are? And yet....

Yes, you could...but the real problem was not Kiffin, Dooley, nor Jones. It was the non-football, pencil-necked idiots who actually LACKED the ability to accurately evaluate a man's ability to lead a SEC program as the HC.

The difference in CJP is that he was vetted by CPF--who won a NC as our HC.

Can't help if you just don't get those facts....

 

[MikeVol44]

It was reported Yurcich's motivation was not money at all, but getting to prove his offense on a bigger stage. Considering OSU is a near shoe-in for a B1G championship game and NY6 bowl every year and their coach is unlikely to bomb in the next few years, I'd say it was the better job. We needed to wrap him up when we had the chance, but it sounds like it had fallen through by the 14th.

Yurcich is no dummy. He has speed at OSU, and a cupboard full of talent, and will play in the WUSS-10--where defensive excellence is getting about as scarce as honesty in politics. And apparently he didn't want to play the best defenses in the land week in and week out. Much easier to prosper at OSU.

 

[ReelfootVol]

Tennessee is not going to put out any money for a top program. I watched those back in the 60's 70's etc. As long as all the seats are filled , give me a $10.00 program and call it a day. Football is no longer a priority in Tennessee. What we are seeing is about all we gonna get. At 72 years old doubt I will ever even see another SEC championship.

 

[BeardedVol]

Once again, sir--you are asking the WRONG questions....

CJP has been vetted by 2 other NC winning coaches to be worthy of being a DC in the SEC.
CJP has been vetted by CPF--another NC winning coach--to be worthy of being the HC at Tennessee.

Just what makes you--or anyone else on this board--QUALIFIED to make any intelligent decision concerning CJP's qualifications to hire an elite OC?
How can you--or anyone else--make an intelligent evaluation of CJP's effectiveness in this process?

All you guys can evaluate so far is rumors and innuendos from those idiots who actually think that they know something--the most famous of which is the former coach Doug Matthews, a coach whose greatest claim to fame is that he knows CPF.

And there won't be any true valid evidence concerning the quality of CJP's hire until we've played some SEC games next fall.

Nevertheless--CJP keeps demonstrating his diverse HC talents in building the nucleus of an outstanding recruiting class this year.
Those HS recruits are believing in him and the coaching staff--why can't you?

Once again--please tell me exactly what CJP has done that has given you reason to doubt his ability to hire an elite OC?
Once again--exactly what qualifies you as CJP's coaching peer? I have nothing to qualify me.
Once again--exactly what qualifies you to even evaluate CJP's process of hiring our next OC? I have nothing to qualify me.

Possession of information does not equal intelligence or wisdom any more than knowing the letters of the alphabet enables one to spell gnat!

This is your statement:

I just know that CJP and those who actually are involved in the process know a whole hell of a lot more than I DO!!!...CJP has proven he can coach DEFENSE at the highest level...And I seem to be one of the very few who will be honest enough to confess that I don't have a clue how it works to hire an OC....

So you have no clue how a college-level OC search/hire is supposed to be conducted, but you are sure that Pruitt is going about it correctly because he was a good DC, who worked for some successful head coaches?

Forgive me, but I fail to see the logic in your assertions. Especially since being a "good coordinator" is not some sort of guarantee of success as a head coach, a position which requires a different set of skills that is not necessarily attained via working as an offensive or defensive coordinator.

 

[1955bamavol]

It doesn't hurt to listen number one, and number 2 it does help his brand to be sought after or wanted. Hey look team X, team Y wants me really bad. If he wanted the job he would have taken it. 6 weeks into the search, pruitt is starting to look desperate the longer he goes without hiring someone.

Remember Mike gundy? He was really interested until he got a raise. It's almost like he used us to get more money, is it possible that's what Canada did? SMH

From reading earlier posts on VN, it is my understanding that Pruitt passed on Canada after interviewing him.

 

[LargeOrange1]

Has CJP reached out to Larry Scott yet?

 

[BeardedVol]

Has CJP reached out to Larry Scott yet?

On Christmas day, he declined.

 

[1955bamavol]

Remember when that post was floating around about Tyson helton putting out the word, And I'm paraphrasing, Don't judge my play calling abilities on what the offense is doing. Do you remember that? It's like he was almost rolling his eyes towards the reason why the office was struggling. Hey, don't blame me, If I was running the all fans it would look better. Or am I looking too deep into the rabbit hole?

Pretty sure up seen pruitt screaming at the top of his lungs to run the dam ball in the Kentucky game.

If I'm not mistaken we beat that Kentucky team fairly soundly. Hmm.

 

[BeecherVol]

People act like coaches are falling all over themselves to come coach here. To say Oh he didn't take the job because we didn't offer it. Really? Just like it's easier to lie to someone then to convince them they have been lie to. It's easier to say we didn't offer to think someone turned UT down.

And others act like every name that hits a message board as someone we may have talked to that doesnt accept the job obviously turn it down.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

I have a business and I've got friends I wouldnt hire to work for me.

He didnt seem to have a problem hiring his initial staff and to date there hasn't been a mass exodus of those guys getting out however to where ever they could.

That doesnt mean every coach loves him. But they dont always have to either.

I agree with you. I tell my teams they must be professional and work well together at all times. Nothing is to impact the working relationships. If work is impacted, then there is a problem that will be addressed by our management teams. Our Associates do not have like each other. It is better if they do, but they do have to work well together.

We try to hire people who fit into the philosophy and culture of our company, but sometimes you make a mistake. If someone is not a good fit, you tend to find out soon enough and then take the appropriate actions. It often works out for the company and the Associate, but sometimes the Associate exits the company (by their choice or the company’s choice).

 

[MikeVol44]

This is your statement:



So you have no clue how a college-level OC search/hire is supposed to be conducted, but you are sure that Pruitt is going about it correctly because he was a good DC, who worked for some successful head coaches?

Forgive me, but I fail to see the logic in your assertions. Especially since being a "good coordinator" is not some sort of guarantee of success as a head coach, a position which requires a different set of skills that is not necessarily attained via working as an offensive or defensive coordinator.

Very simple logic sir.

1. CJP has had his FB IQ and acumen vetted by at least 3 NC coaches before getting the HC job at UT.
2. CJP has the qualifications to be a HC in the SEC--which means that he has been evaluated by his coaching peers to be qualified to hire an OC.

Once again--exactly what qualifications to you have to accurately evaluate CJP's process? And I'm still awaiting an honest answer to that question.

What is it that keeps you from plainly admitting the obvious? You don't know any more than I do about what process CJP is using or what attributes CJP is looking for in his next OC? All that I do know is that CJP has repeatedly stated his philosophy that "... you cannot win in football at any level if you cannot run the ball..."

Why can't you just answer my questions?

What experience do YOU have in hiring an OC for a SEC football team?
What experience do YOU have coaching football in ANY professional capacity (getting paid for coaching)?

I have none.