Pruitt Should Apologize to Fans, the Team & Re-evaluate if He Still Wants to Be Coach

[Freak]

Smart may win initially (hard to argue against momentum); but once Pruitt gets things rolling, I agree with you.

I thought Smart did a good job coaching on the field this year. Combined with his record recruiting classes, it's hard for me to see any scenario where we beat them in the near future.

As to the theme of this thread, I do think Pruitt and this staff will assemble a top 10 recruiting class next year. That's a start.

 

[rickyyrs]

This recruit class took a nosedive. Multiple misses. “Sure things” flipping to other schools on NSD.

HUGE holes in the secondary and O-Line with little options to fill them. All while, Pruitt stayed at Alabama to coach in the playoffs—time that shouldve been spent working 100% on this recruit class and team.

Alabama benefits and at the same time sticks it to us twice: Pruitt helped them win another NC and it obviously negatively affected this years class and Pruitt’s ability to bring in talent.

Phil shares the blame in allowing him to coach an extra month at Alabama.

The best part of being on this site, is even the dumb ideas are able to post on here. You must still be mad because Butch is gone. Pruitt and his coaches did a good job recruiting. It will be even better next year. Pruitt will coach these guy up. Butch had 4 and 5 star players and didnt know how to coach them. Perfect example is Alvin Kamara. Shaun Peyton knows how to use a talent like that. Get him the dam* ball.

 

[allvol123]

I think 'weak' is continuing to bark out nonsense that you're repeatedly having to back peddle from.

Feb 7 was a fail. CJP would admit that if he were able to tell the truth about it, obviously there is no reason to.

I have not "barked" nonsense. I will never be ok when the HC at UT giving UT part time effort. Others are.

 

[AM64]

Glad to see tennessee benefiting from all this sec success yet again

I'm not exactly sure what statement it makes about the SEC and where it stands in the football world, but Tennessee at 8th (in the SEC) in recruiting was still ahead of Michigan (3rd in the big 10) ... and the 4th place ACC finisher. True the left coast fantasyland did pretty well in keeping players home - the same guys who probably again sit at home and won't play in the NC games.

It likely has something to do with big ponds and small ponds, the size of predators swimming in each, and whether the guy running the show grew up in a large or a small pond.

 

[VolArmy74]

75% of all 4 and 5 star players had signed before he went back to coach bama. UT likely sprung for unlimited calling on his phone and provided a laptop to watch film. He couldn't be on a field.

If these guys were so busy then how did the other playoff teams manage to do any recruiting during the dead period? Did they simply abandon recruiting during that "extremely key time of the year"?

I know several college coaches. They are all extremely busy from the end of the season until signing day. Those other teams have staff and coaches in place. Nick Saban can call guys while his assistant coaches are coaching. Plus, you know, their programs are in slightly better shape and were fine after the first signing period.

 

[volspeach]

I thought Smart did a good job coaching on the field this year. Combined with his record recruiting classes, it's hard for me to see any scenario where we beat them in the near future.

As to the theme of this thread, I do think Pruitt and this staff will assemble a top 10 recruiting class next year. That's a start.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

What a dumb reply.

" I can't comprehend or don't like your answer, so I assert you don't understand what is important in life."

If you can't handle an adult conversation, then bow out.

No one pays a guy millions of dollars to do a CEO level job and then says, keep helping our biggest competitor.

It was thrown out it was ok because it would pay dividends for us. It didn't. So it was dumb.

Don't claim you're having an adult conversation when your position is juvenile, very unsportsmanlike,... and dumb.
Your bullshiest is why when folk from other regions of the nation call Tennesseeans 'ignorant hillbillys' if they're talking about you they'd be right.

 

[allvol123]

Don't claim you're having an adult conversation when your position is juvenile, very unsportsmanlike,... and dumb.
Your bullshiest is why when folk from other regions of the nation call Tennesseeans 'ignorant hillbillys' if they're talking about you they'd be right.

Hillbillies.

Educate yourself

 

[jakez4ut]

I think you're the one reaching. I don't think anyone was selling this as "good for us" just that we'd get some recognition. That was simply a byproduct of the situation. If you have specifics of what 'good things' you or others were expecting, I'm all ears.

You said 'no one does it'. You didn't give stipulations so I gave just one example that it happens.

You can argue that Tennessee's circumstances were dire, but then you'd also have to use that as a reason the recruiting rankings weren't up to the expectations of some.

Still, we finished with the #20 class, not the #50.

all of this.:thumbsup:

 

[Freak]

Feb 7 was a fail. CJP would admit that if he were able to tell the truth about it, obviously there is no reason to.

I have not "barked" nonsense. I will never be ok when the HC at UT giving UT part time effort. Others are.

You're the one going around suggesting people's posts are dumb and idiotic while posting misinformation yourself.

I've already said that Pruitt would likely admit he was disappointed with how yesterday went. You could tell by the things he said in the recruiting celebration last night.

You, however, are using a winless conference season and multiple coaches over the last 10 years as reasons why Pruitt should have skipped the championship game (in contrast do why it's ok for guys like Kirby and Scott Frost) while refusing to allow the possibility that those factors, along with a lot of other things, impacted our class rating.

As I've said, I think the early signing period had a bigger impact on yesterday than most are admitting.

 

[jakez4ut]

Weak of you.

He failed on NSD. Finishing behind UF and USC. I don't even count UGA. Because that was not realistic.

But he failed.

and the only reason you've given so far to support the "fail" is because he coached Bama in the playoffs.

you're leaving out a lot, and the vast majority of it was done before he was even a candidate for the job.

it's still just a lazy narrative to push. as much blame as you want to put on him for finishing behind those guys, there's zero credit for moving from 56th to 20th.

just complete ignorance of the other side of that coin.

and i still haven't seen you explain what you're realistic expectation was for him, and why. but i don't hold out much hope for the "why", given your reasoning on why he's a failure 2 months in.

 

[KBVol]

We are not UGA.

They were not coming off a winless conference season.
Or multiple Hc changes over the last 10 years.

Yes. Over and over people stated they were cool with this because it would result in good things for us.

No one anywhere has mentioned a number 1 class, so now you are reaching.

You’re way short-sighted here and way overthinking all this imo.

 

[jakez4ut]

You're the one going around suggesting people's posts are dumb and idiotic while posting misinformation yourself.

I've already said that Pruitt would likely admit he was disappointed with how yesterday went. You could tell by the things he said in the recruiting celebration last night.

You, however, are using a winless conference season and multiple coaches over the last 10 years as reasons why Pruitt should have skipped the championship game (in contrast do why it's ok for guys like Kirby to do it) while refusing to allow the possibility that those factors, along with a lot of other things, impacted our class rating.

As I've said, I think the early signing period had a bigger impact on yesterday than most are admitting.

yep, he basically has. he's already said publicly that he knows, and we should expect to be, much closer to the top of those rankings than we finished this year.

to me, that's a non starter at this point.:thumbsup:

 

[jakez4ut]

You're the one going around suggesting people's posts are dumb and idiotic while posting misinformation yourself.

I've already said that Pruitt would likely admit he was disappointed with how yesterday went. You could tell by the things he said in the recruiting celebration last night.

You, however, are using a winless conference season and multiple coaches over the last 10 years as reasons why Pruitt should have skipped the championship game (in contrast do why it's ok for guys like Kirby and Scott Frost) while refusing to allow the possibility that those factors, along with a lot of other things, impacted our class rating.

As I've said, I think the early signing period had a bigger impact on yesterday than most are admitting.

it totally did. the "back up plans" were signed.

we went with high risk/reward with the guys we went after. it didn't work. and when it didn't, most of the type of back up plans coaches might have in previous cycles were gone.

nearly 80% of the recruits signed in December. was way higher than i thought would happen.

 

[allvol123]

and the only reason you've given so far to support the "fail" is because he coached Bama in the playoffs.

you're leaving out a lot, and the vast majority of it was done before he was even a candidate for the job.

it's still just a lazy narrative to push. as much blame as you want to put on him for finishing behind those guys, there's zero credit for moving from 56th to 20th.

just complete ignorance of the other side of that coin.

and i still haven't seen you explain what you're realistic expectation was for him, and why. but i don't hold out much hope for the "why", given your reasoning on why he's a failure 2 months in.

Oh calm down.

I said Feb 7 was a fail. I never said he was a failure nor have I said I don't believe he will succeed.

You want to talk about me making stuff up, while you're making stuff up.

I don't claim Feb 7 was a fail solely because of his decision to stay on at Bama. I claim you can't do your best at something giving it partial attention. And I don't change my opinion on that.

 

[Freak]

Oh calm down.

I said Feb 7 was a fail. I never said he was a failure nor have I said I don't believe he will succeed.

You want to talk about me making stuff up, while you're making stuff up.

I don't claim Feb 7 was a fail solely because of his decision to stay on at Bama. I claim you can't do your best at something giving it partial attention. And I don't change my opinion on that.

It seems as though nobody is sure what you're saying besides, "But, Bama!"

 

[AM64]

People hate Alabama, understandably, and are still throwing tantrums over Pruitt choosing to stay for the championship game, which is fine, but this really isn't about recruiting imo.

Yep, this is more about the people who believe Pruitt wasn't the guy for the job, and they will throw stones at the least provocation. Pruitt wasn't the splashy hire they wanted, and he'll never be the right one or do the right things as far as they are concerned.

 

[Freak]

it totally did. the "back up plans" were signed.

we went with high risk/reward with the guys we went after. it didn't work. and when it didn't, most of the type of back up plans coaches might have in previous cycles were gone.

nearly 80% of the recruits signed in December. was way higher than i thought would happen.

Agree. I thought the talent he got on campus this late in the game was impressive. He simply didn't have enough time to flip them, and there weren't enough other options out there. I like the fact that he had high expectations.

All that said, had we lost Peterson yesterday, I might be in meltdown mode today. lol.

 

[allvol123]

It seems as though nobody is sure what you're saying besies, "But, Bama!"

Well you stated a coach that won the SEC and was in NCG did a "good job" coaching this year.

Wow, I'll try to elevate to this level as soon as possible.

 

[Freak]

Well you stated a coach that won the SEC and was in NCG did a "good job" coaching this year.

Wow, I'll try to elevate to this level as soon as possible.

lol. The true sign of a defeated man. Continually changing the subject. But that's expected when your only continual point is, "But Bama!"

Would you now like to debate Kirby's coaching acumen, rather than acting like a ... well ... yourself?

My point about Kirby Smart was that while I think teams can win at a very high rate with superior talent (it's all about the Jimmys and Joes), I think Smart did a really good job coaching on the field in game situations, especially considering it was only his second year as a head coach. Georgia's recruiting classes are scary enough, but if Smart is also a top-tier coach on the field, it may be a long, long ride for the Dawgs. That's in contrast to those who posted they think Pruitt can beat Smart in the near future.

 

[jakez4ut]

Agree. I thought the talent he got on campus this late in the game was impressive. He simply didn't have enough time to flip them, and there weren't enough other options out there. I like the fact that he had high expectations.

All that said, had we lost Peterson yesterday, I might be in meltdown mode today. lol.

well, as the dominos literally fell yesterday, i think i'd be right there with ya.

but yeah, the other thing that gets lost with all this, is that while we did get a lot of kids on campus, for many, it was their first time, especially for some of the bigger out of state prospects that were never on our board under the last regime.

they had no connection with the program other than what little they had with the coach or coaches that got them there. no relationship with current players or other prospects, no familiarity with Knoxville or campus or facilities.

it's easy to monday morning qb it now. i didn't want to hear any of that the last couple weeks.

we'll see how it goes in 19. there's zero reason to not still be excited about the future.

 

[allvol123]

lol. The true sign of a defeated man. Continually changing the subject. But that's expected when your only continual point is, "But Bama!"

Would you now like to debate Kirby's coaching acumen, rather than acting like a ... well ... yourself?

My point about Kirby Smart was that while I think teams can win at a very high rate with superior talent (it's all about the Jimmys and Joes), I think Smart did a really good job coaching on the field in game situations, especially considering it was only his second year as a head coach. Georgia's recruiting classes are scary enough, but if Smart is also a top-tier coach on the field, it may be a long, long ride for the Dawgs. That's in contrast to those who posted they think Pruitt can beat Smart in the near future.

That was a load of hurt feelings.

 

[jakez4ut]

Oh calm down.

I said Feb 7 was a fail. I never said he was a failure nor have I said I don't believe he will succeed.

You want to talk about me making stuff up, while you're making stuff up.

I don't claim Feb 7 was a fail solely because of his decision to stay on at Bama. I claim you can't do your best at something giving it partial attention. And I don't change my opinion on that.

well you sure as heck haven't so much as insinuated that you think he will...is capable of it....or even might be..............so forgive me for connecting those dots....jeez. i'll put it this way, i didn't think i was going out on too long a limb there......

what's the difference? and you still haven't declared what difference it would make on this class had he not coached Alabama/Tennessee on a part time basis.... no one has.

nor have you acknowledged what affect anything prior to his hiring might have had on this class.

 

[Freak]

That was a load of hurt feelings.

I think you may be projecting the hurt feelings. You keep backing yourself into a corner with pointless arguments. Ask anyone.

If you have anything worthy to add to the discussion, feel free.

 

[allvol123]

well you sure as heck haven't so much as insinuated that you think he will...is capable of it....or even might be..............so forgive me for connecting those dots....jeez. i'll put it this way, i didn't think i was going out on too long a limb there......

what's the difference? and you still haven't declared what difference it would make on this class had he not coached Alabama/Tennessee on a part time basis.... no one has.

nor have you acknowledged what affect anything prior to his hiring might have had on this class.

You don't need my forgiveness.

But Yes, You have inferred a lot.

I never liked this particular decision by him and have never veered from that. I also don't like when my daughter makes a 70 on a math test but it doesn't define my belief in her.