Fulmer should not have been fired in 2005 but by 2008 it was certainly justified. We were no longer competitive against the better teams, player development wasn’t what it had been, and Richt, Spurrier, Saban, Meyer, Miles, Petrino, Tuberville, etc had passed Fulmer by. 2 losing seasons in 4 years and going the wrong direction justified the decision. The problem is with what happened after that. Kiffin is a mediocre coach who left after one season and put a bad coach Dooley in a hole by basically not having a recruiting class. Almost the entire heralded class Kiffin signed didn’t contribute at all. Add an entire whiff on a class to the worst HC I’ve ever seen and the disaster begins. What baffles me is how Butch, who did get us back to some level of respectability, just fell apart that last year. I think it happened because of poor coordinator and assistant changes, especially OC and S&C, but there’s no telling for sure. But no matter what we would never have won the East with him.