Pruitt: Nobody has ‘separated himself’ in Vols’ QB race

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Zues1 said:
Maybe I'm mis-remembering but I recall Pruitt saying this decision would be made quickly, or something along those lines.
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I remember him saying, and I’m paraphrasing here, but to the effect that we probably won’t know who the #1 is until the 4th quarter of the WV game. Granted, that was back during spring camp but I don’t know that his thinking is any different today and expect they may both get a shot at running the offense in that game unless the first one in has a spectacular game.
 
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sjt18 said:
Last year there were a lot of "spy" reports. Players were talking. And the media had more access to include some of the closed sessions that they weren't allowed to report on... but did "hint" about. By this point in camp, it was pretty well known that Dormady was usually going out first with the 1's and getting the most reps with them. JG was definitely chasing. Kelly let it slip indirectly about 2 weeks before the first game that QD would start.

We're not getting as much info this year. The sessions being observed by the media aren't enough. Some of the reporters could have access. They could be getting info that they can't be real obvious about... but only a couple are actually claiming to know that JG is ahead.
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Dude, you are working way too hard to discredit any positive news about a volunteer player.
 
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BloomuVol said:
Dude, you are working way too hard to discredit any positive news about a volunteer player.
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Nope. I like the reports that JG is doing better. But those reports are based on what appears to be very limited information. And... how did anything in that particular post discredit JG or anyone else? The subject and point was that we aren't getting the same info this year that we got last year. Last year, the info we got said that QD was running with the 1's. There has been one reporter say that in the portions they saw JG ran with the 1's. Now we have a rumor that KC ran with the 1's more in the scrimmage.

Oh... and just checking... is KC a Vol too?
 
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VolEngineer said:
It would be dumb to announce a starter or who is leading the race until right before the season starts. WVU has to prepare for at least two quarterbacks and look at tennessee, usc, and stanford to prepare. Giving out that info could make it easier for them to prepare
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Man, can you imagine having to prepare for Tennessee based on last season's film? I don't think this team will even vaguely resemble last season's team, except for its best components.
 
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sjt18 said:
We now have a published article by Brice saying that Chryst had significant time with the 1's and performed well.
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and i don't doubt that's what happened, but the information was still gathered from "sources close to the program"....it just is what it is. they can kinda control the narrative on this scrimmage. and that's not doubting the report as much as it is just acknowledging for what it is..."someone told me the, so here goes...."

we'll know more as camp goes on. i still think it's a bit disingenuous for anyone here to say 'it is' or 'it isn't' one way or the other at this point.
 
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jakez4ut said:
and i don't doubt that's what happened, but the information was still gathered from "sources close to the program"....it just is what it is. they can kinda control the narrative on this scrimmage. and that's not doubting the report as much as it is just acknowledging for what it is..."someone told me the, so here goes...."

we'll know more as camp goes on. i still think it's a bit disingenuous for anyone here to say 'it is' or 'it isn't' one way or the other at this point.
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Agree completely. There are people who will act like this speculation is rock solid. There have been multiple people declare JG the starter based on either just what reporters have been able to watch of practices (which isn't much at all and no live work) or that combined with their "sources close to the program".

IMO, it is a lot more murky trying to figure things out this year. The situation may be just as clear to the coaches... but the info coming out IMO isn't. We pretty much knew by this point last year that QD was leading. A week later it was all but settled. Most except for the diehard JG troopers accepted it.

The ONLY thing I have against either guy "personally" is JG's behavior while not the starter last year. I'm not saying he hasn't grown up... I just want to see it rather than assume it. Objectively I've seen JG a lot more than Chryst so I won't favor one guy over the other based on that. But I just rewatched the UK game from last year. JG has to make MUCH, MUCH better decisions and reads than that to be UT's starter. k-town king loves to cite "statistics" but that game shows how they can be deceptive. JG didn't complete a pass that traveled more than 12 yards prior to the last Hail Mary. That one pass accounted for 48 of his 242 yards... and came up several yards short of the end zone. It was poorly thrown. I think he took 7 sacks. Some were just OL's getting beaten. Some though... he just didn't pick up his pre-snap reads.

If JG becomes the guy then that's great considering his physical talent. If he doesn't then we'll have an open competition next fall after Shrout has developed a year. It will include Maurer and possibly a highly ranked QB who is out there watching to see if the job will be open.
 
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sjt18 said:
Agree completely. There are people who will act like this speculation is rock solid. There have been multiple people declare JG the starter based on either just what reporters have been able to watch of practices (which isn't much at all and no live work) or that combined with their "sources close to the program".

IMO, it is a lot more murky trying to figure things out this year. The situation may be just as clear to the coaches... but the info coming out IMO isn't. We pretty much knew by this point last year that QD was leading. A week later it was all but settled. Most except for the diehard JG troopers accepted it.

The ONLY thing I have against either guy "personally" is JG's behavior while not the starter last year. I'm not saying he hasn't grown up... I just want to see it rather than assume it. Objectively I've seen JG a lot more than Chryst so I won't favor one guy over the other based on that. But I just rewatched the UK game from last year. JG has to make MUCH, MUCH better decisions and reads than that to be UT's starter. k-town king loves to cite "statistics" but that game shows how they can be deceptive. JG didn't complete a pass that traveled more than 12 yards prior to the last Hail Mary. That one pass accounted for 48 of his 242 yards... and came up several yards short of the end zone. It was poorly thrown. I think he took 7 sacks. Some were just OL's getting beaten. Some though... he just didn't pick up his pre-snap reads.

If JG becomes the guy then that's great considering his physical talent. If he doesn't then we'll have an open competition next fall after Shrout has developed a year. It will include Maurer and possibly a highly ranked QB who is out there watching to see if the job will be open.
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yep. and i would just add, that if JG doesn't win the job, or doesn't see significant playing time in scrimmages or thru out the season, then that may confirm a lot of the concerns about him just not getting it. cause a lot of his issues with pre snap reads, or holding the ball to long etc....that's all correctable/coaching/teaching related. has nothing to do with the physical part or mechanical part of the position.
everyone please acknowledge...i did say "if" and "may" in there.....lol.
 
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jakez4ut said:
yep. and i would just add, that if JG doesn't win the job, or doesn't see significant playing time in scrimmages or thru out the season, then that may confirm a lot of the concerns about him just not getting it. cause a lot of his issues with pre snap reads, or holding the ball to long etc....that's all correctable/coaching/teaching related. has nothing to do with the physical part or mechanical part of the position.
everyone please acknowledge...i did say "if" and "may" in there.....lol.
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What some may not realize or want to admit... is that those things are talents as well as skills. It was said that Larry Bird could accurately tell you where every player was on the court... even those behind him. Some QB's just have the ability to read and anticipate while others are never able to do it effectively.

I hope that's not the case with JG... but that field awareness or whatever you call it... may not be something he can do well. Maybe it compares to "multi-tasking". Some people need to put blinders on. They can do great things but can't do well juggling tasks.
 
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sjt18 said:
We now have a published article by Brice saying that Chryst had significant time with the 1's and performed well.
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Please tell me what that has to do with you having a concerted effort at disproving any positive news about JG, while now touting one article about another player as proof of your claim?
 
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Don't know who will be the starter and maybe no one does even the coaching staff at this point. However, even if CJP and Helton had a hard lean or outright knew who they wanted as QB they're not going to say until the season starts. They don't need a QB transfer story going on during camp and the likelihood someone transfers after playing a few snaps is less likely because they either burn a year of eligibility or a redshirt. Hope JG is smart enough to stay even if he isn't the starter as a high number of starting QB's can't make every start due to injury.
 
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BloomuVol said:
Please tell me what that has to do with you having a concerted effort at disproving any positive news about JG, while now touting one article about another player as proof of your claim?
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Please demonstrate that I've done anything other than say that people are getting ahead of themselves by declaring either guy the starter? I have consistently said I don't know. I really don't care who the starter is... I just want them to be good.
 
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sjt18 said:
Please demonstrate that I've done anything other than say that people are getting ahead of themselves by declaring either guy the starter? I have consistently said I don't know. I really don't care who the starter is... I just want them to be good.
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You have spent six practices trying to discredit any and all positive news about Jg from media at the practices only to now tout the one article positive of both QBs that the author didnt actually see what he is reporting, that just so happened to be more positive for chryst. Your a clown dude, keep trying to act impartial we see better.
 
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sjt18 said:
Please demonstrate that I've done anything other than say that people are getting ahead of themselves by declaring either guy the starter? I have consistently said I don't know. I really don't care who the starter is... I just want them to be good.
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Fighting a losing battle.
Been watching this QB fan battle and 1 thing I've learned - If you point out a flaw of one QB or quote one article, you p*** off a large portion of posters.
If you point out the downside of both QBs and quote 2 articles, you p*** everyone off.

Except the few like me that don't care who starts as long as he wins.
 
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1974Vol said:
Don't know who will be the starter and maybe no one does even the coaching staff at this point. However, even if CJP and Helton had a hard lean or outright knew who they wanted as QB they're not going to say until the season starts. They don't need a QB transfer story going on during camp and the likelihood someone transfers after playing a few snaps is less likely because they either burn a year of eligibility or a redshirt. Hope JG is smart enough to stay even if he isn't the starter as a high number of starting QB's can't make every start due to injury.
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I have to disagree. JG needs to transfer as quickly as possible if he doesn't get the nod. There will always be a Chryst level grad xfer QB on the market. If this staff picks one of those over JG he has no business wasting his or the staff's time on The Hill. It's not personal it's just business.
 
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Hmmmmmmm. I took a nap today, 3 hours prior to mowing my high grass lawn due to rains. I meant to watch an animated Batman movie on Netflix. Fell asleep, I suppose due to not sleeping well last night. A dream presented itself. JG started the WV game. KC started the UTEP game.

Georgia wasn't sure which to prep for. Pruitt sent McBride out to just feed the RBs who rotated whenever one showed a bit of tiredness. Then the 2nd quarter, he put in dual threat (yes, he really is we just haven't seen it yet) JG. This made Georgia jumpy as JG can throw but he might run, he can run but he might throw. So Georgia doesn't really know what to do defensively. 4th quarter, on account Pruitt doesn't like Smart, he puts in KC to dink and dump, only to smite the the canis slobberis with fresh RBs slashing them. At game end, neither Georgia nor their coach know what the heck hit them. Then, dammit! My wife woke me up and told me to mow the lawn cause a 20% chance of rain tomorrow in these parts often means a downpour. And our lawn doesn't need encouragement to grow. A drop of sweat on it and it immediately becomes high enough to harvest as hay.
 
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With JG's reaction to not starting before, how would he react losing the starting job now?
 
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