Projected depth chart vs. Bowling Green

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#77
Impossible Girl said:
Tillman is a starter at WR and I don’t think it’s even debatable at this point.
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You may be right. But we know Jones and Hyatt are two starters. So the only question is the 3rd starter. I’ve seen Payton projected by some as a starter because this offense places a premium on speed (which Payton has and Tillman doesn’t have) and because Payton has run first team a lot in practice. So I could’ve put either one as the starter there.

Again, you could be right and Tillman may start. But it’s at least debatable, given where Payton has run in practice.
 
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901 Orange said:
Wouldnt this also mean the top schools hit the portal bc they werent good enough at those position?? We cant possibly tire out more then last year, with an offense that couldnt get 1st downs let alone score. Lets be real, Morris wasnt good last year & im not sure he would be a guaranteed starter on this team. OU needed an OT so it worked out. UT replaced a 5 star LT with another 5 star. Lawerence is all potential. Flowers, Tank, & Jackson were going to be ahead of him. He would still have to battle with McDonald & Slaughter for PT. He did the right thing to transfer. They replaced him with the DB from Bama. Gray played a position thats a dime a dozen. They replaced him with the #1 Juco RB. They were good players but we went 3-7 with them. Sometimes in football its better to have more lunchpales then movie stars.
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We lost some talented mercenaries. We had a bad culture and part of correcting that means losing talented pieces that don’t make the whole better.

Also, I don’t think a lot of folks are accounting for just how much better the team will be because Guarantano isn’t the QB anymore. Improving that position (which is inevitable, given that JG was such a detriment) does so much to make a team better.
 
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jlbvols said:
Practice reports don’t tell you anything cause the media doesn’t see anything. They don’t see scrimmages etc. All they see is warm ups and certain drills. Against a weak team like BG I think they give the Davis kid the nod at RT. The staff would rather have Mays at Guard. If they opened with Pitt they probably would go with Mays at RT.
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You been to the practices? I agree Mays is better at Guard.
 
#81
#81
GregAmsler said:
QB- Joe Milton (RSSo.), Hendon Hooker (Sr.), Harrison Bailey (So.)

RB- Jabari Small (So.), Tiyon Evans (Jr.), Jaylen Wright (Fr.), Dee Beckwith (RSFr.), Tee Hodge (RSFr.), Len’Neth Whitehead (RSFr.)

WR- Velus Jones (RSSr.), Cedric Tillman (RSJr.), Kaemen Marley (Fr.)

WR- Javonta Payton (Sr.), Ramel Keyton (Jr.), Andison Coby (So.)

SL- Jalin Hyatt (So.), Jimmy Calloway (So.), Walker Merrill (Fr.), Jimmy Holiday (So.)

TE- Princeton Fant (RSSr.), Jacob Warren (RSJr.), Miles Campbell (Fr.), Julian Nixon (Fr.), Trinity Bell (Fr.)

RT- Cade Mays (Sr.), Reginald Perry (RSFr.), William Parker (Fr.)

RG- Javontez Spraggins (So.), Kingston Harris (RSJr.), Chris Akporoghene (RSSo.)

C- Cooper Mays (So.), Oliver Lane (RSJr.)

LG- Jerome Carvin (Sr.), Jackson Lampley (RSFr.), James Robinson (RSFr.)

LT- Darnell Wright (Jr.), Dayne Davis (RSSo.), Jeremiah Crawford (So.), K’Rojhn Calbert (RSSr.)



DE- Matthew Butler (Sr.), Caleb Tremblay (RSr.), JaQuain Blakley (RSSr.)

DT- Omari Thomas (So.), Aubrey Solomon (Sr.), Kurot Garland (RSJr.), Amari McNeill (Fr.)

DT- Latrell Bumphus (Sr.), Da’Jon Terry (RSSo.), Elijah Simmons (RSSo.), Dominic Bailey (RSFr.)

DE- Byron Young (Jr.), Tyler Baron (So.), Bryson Eason (So.)

WILL- Roman Harrison (Jr.), William Mohan (RSFr.), Morven Joseph (So.)

MIKE- Juwan Mitchell (Sr.), Aaron Willis (Fr.), Kawuaze Garland (RSSo.)

SAM- Jeremy Banks (RSJr.), Aaron Beasley (Jr.), Solon Page (RSSr.)

LCB- Alontae Taylor (Sr.), Kenneth George (RSSr.), Kamal Hadden (RSSo.)

RCB- Warren Burrell (Jr.), Brandon Turnage (RSFr.), De’Shawn Rucker (Fr.)

NB- Theo Jackson (Sr.), Doneiko Slaughter (So.), Tamarion McDonald (So.)

S- Jaylen McCollough (Jr.), Tyus Fields (RSSo.), Cheyenne Labruzza (RSSr.)

S- Trevon Flowers (Sr.), Christian Charles (Fr.)



K- Chase McGrath (Sr.), JT Carver (Fr.)

P- Paxton Brooks (Sr.)

KOS- Paxton Brooks (Sr.)



KR- Velus Jones (RSSr.)

PR- Theo Jackson (Sr.)
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..............and people keep wanting to know why Dee Beeckwith hasn't moved to TE?
 
#82
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butchna said:
Wanya Morris wasn’t one of our best players last season. He was running at jumbo TE at the end. Not arguing about Lawrence but that’s on POTENTIAL…not his actual production. And Gray was our best RB last season by default. He’s highly replaceable and it’s already done. We’re deeper at DL and (depending on 2-3 players) possibly at LB.
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................and we all know what Henry T. would do on passing downs........get beat. In fact Henry T. is like Peyton Manning and Larry Bird, very cerebral, but not that athletic.
 
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BACKDOC said:
..............and people keep wanting to know why Dee Beeckwith hasn't moved to TE?
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Yes. He won’t factor in at RB, but he could at TE. Bell still isn’t practicing fully, and the two behind Fant/Warren are true freshmen. Although it sounds like both have bright futures.
 
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GregAmsler said:
Yes. He won’t factor in at RB, but he could at TE. Bell still isn’t practicing fully, and the two behind Fant/Warren are true freshmen. Although it sounds like both have bright futures.
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Good point, but, RB's knees get hit a lot more than TE's. He could easily be 2nd team RB by Nov.
 
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#87
TheDirector said:
What part do you not agree with? The talent loss isn't really disputable considering Morris and Lawrence are starting for the #2 ranked team and Henry is starting for the #1 ranked team. Grey is second string to one of the best RB in CFB. It's not really accurate to say that those players weren't very good anyway when they went to the top teams and won starting positions.
Do you think the defense has more depth than expected and won't get tired from the high tempo offense we plan to run?
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I think the position is that there is not a huge drop off in those guys replacements. Depth issues are real, but it is possible with the new schemes that the guys still here are a better fit. It will be interesting to compare stats on the our RB production trends with OU and NC later in the season. I am hoping the guys we throw out there have more YAC than our departures do. Kind of counting on it. I will also look at the situational use of our FR backup brigade. I am still HOPING that my man Beckwith changes some field position and extends some drives. We will find out if he is the freak I think he is or not.... but he and the others still has four years if needed to get there. I have no idea how to project a HEALTHY Whitehead.... his SPARQ scores were off the charts and he seems motivated to be a RB. He is my sleeper contributor back there.

It is possible our tempo on offense keeps us on the field too. Three and outs are killers in our situation fast of conventional. Have to believe that our staff will factor time of possession in their game plans as well. Catching the other team off guard can yield first downs as well as touchdowns. If we reduce our drops and other busts then we can stay of the field. The opponents defensive speed will impact our game plans as well. I am guessing that we will avoid bend but don't break schemes in favor of higher risk turnover generating schemes when our depth becomes an issue. In some games I wonder if we will roll the dice and set on sides kick records hoping to get the ball at the risk of giving up shorter drives to those teams with depth advantages on defense. 50 yard drives instead of 80 yards drives are still 3 or 7 points but the play count and wear is lower. time will tell.
 
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TheDirector said:
But the fact that they are starting for teams that are way more talented than our team makes me think that it was more coaching or lack of motivation from the previous staff. I hope that you are right and they can be easily replaced but it's also August so optimism abounds this time every year.
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Eric gray is RB2 at OU. Kennedy Brooks runs that show
 
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Impossible Girl said:
I thought Carvin should have started over Kennedy a long time ago. Pretty much anyone who knows Oline knows Cooper is undersized. Gutsy kid, but this is the SEC. without question he is the least talented and body ready of the starters. Hell, one of our best centers was Bubba Miller and he was 5’10”, so who knows.
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That was just experience. Brandon was a 5th year from bama and carvin was a true freshman.. no chance he would have started
 
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TheDirector said:
What part do you not agree with? The talent loss isn't really disputable considering Morris and Lawrence are starting for the #2 ranked team and Henry is starting for the #1 ranked team. Grey is second string to one of the best RB in CFB. It's not really accurate to say that those players weren't very good anyway when they went to the top teams and won starting positions.
Do you think the defense has more depth than expected and won't get tired from the high tempo offense we plan to run?
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I think the position is that there is not a huge drop off in those guys replacements. Depth issues are real, but it is possible with the new schemes that the guys still here are a better fit. It will be interesting to compare stats on the our RB production trends with OU and NC later in the season. I am hoping the guys we throw out there have more YAC than our departures do. Kind of counting on it. I will also look at the situational use of our FR backup brigade. I am still HOPING that my man Beckwith changes some field position and extends some drives. We will find out if he is the freak I think he is or not.... but he and the others still has four years if needed to get there. I have no idea how to project a HEALTHY Whitehead.... his SPARQ scores were off the charts and he seems motivated to be a RB. He is my sleeper contributor back there by seasons end. Both of them in on goal line could be interesting. Either could lead and either could carry. Neither project to me to be 20+ carry guys, but situational backs.

It is possible our tempo on offense keeps us on the field too. Three and outs are killers in our situation fast of conventional. Have to believe that our staff will factor time of possession in their game plans as well. Some games we may need on sides kicks and 4th down attempts to try and keep the D off the field. Catching the other team off guard can yield first downs as well as touchdowns. If we reduce our drops and other busts then we can stay on the field.
 
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Impossible Girl said:
Carvin a senior this year. Do the math.
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Carvin was part of the 2018 class with Banks. They played together in Hs. Brandon Kennedy joined in 2019 as a grad transfer.. you should do the math and understand how football works lol... you said you thought “ he should have started over Kennedy a long time ago.”
That just doesn’t make sense logically speaking
 
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RockyTopTexas said:
Carvin was part of the 2018 class with Banks. They played together in Hs. Brandon Kennedy joined in 2019 as a grad transfer.. you should do the math and understand how football works lol... you said you thought “ he should have started over Kennedy a long time ago.”
That just doesn’t make sense logically speaking
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So, now the issue is what I meant by a long time ago. Maybe that doesn’t mean the same thing to me as it does to you. He should have started over Kennedy last year. When he’s playing in the NFL perhaps you’ll understand. Kennedy was not a good lineman.
 
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Impossible Girl said:
So, now the issue is what I meant by a long time ago. Maybe that doesn’t mean the same thing to me as it does to you. He should have started over Kennedy last year. When he’s playing in the NFL perhaps you’ll understand. Kennedy was not a good lineman.
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Lol don’t try to be smart with me when you sound like a Jackass... I’m a huge carvin fan hence why I corrected you... please pay attention.. I won’t ever understand any points you make if they come across as you one you TRIED to make here
 
#100
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butchna said:
Wanya Morris wasn’t one of our best players last season. He was running at jumbo TE at the end. Not arguing about Lawrence but that’s on POTENTIAL…not his actual production. And Gray was our best RB last season by default. He’s highly replaceable and it’s already done. We’re deeper at DL and (depending on 2-3 players) possibly at LB.
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This I totally agree with. Wanya Morris never set the world on fire here living up to his high ⭐️ rating. Maybe it was $#!T coaching for sure but he was beat a lot.
Eric Gray was a fun to watch RB sure…but Small/Evans/Wright have great power, wiggle, & speed so he will not be missed. Eric Gray wasn’t Charlie Garner, Travis Henry/Stephens, Reggie Cobb, John Kelly, or Alvin Kamara after all. Now you factor in a behemoth QB at 6’5” 245lbs that runs a 4.6 40 in Milton or Hooker that has a Josh Dobbs type skill set….and throw Dee Beckwith back there as another battering ram…Eric Gray who?
 
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