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With the death of Lou Holtz, they were talking about coaching legends here on a local sports talk station. Penn State has Joe Paterno. VT has Beamer. FSU has Bowden. Eddie Robinson at Grambling etc.

Obviously General Neyland is one for UT. I'd also put Fulmer in that category.

Anyone else? (maybe Majors)
 
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I don't think Fulmer gets put in the category Legend because he's still living.

Once he passes, he'll be called a legend. One of the winningest coaches in all of CFB in the 90s.

UT has been blessed with 3 true legends.
Neyland
Summit
Fulmer

Vitello may have reached that had he stayed another few years.
 
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IndianaVol said:
I don't think Fulmer gets put in the category Legend because he's still living.

Once he passes, he'll be called a legend. One of the winningest coaches in all of CFB in the 90s.

UT has been blessed with 3 true legends.
Neyland
Summit
Fulmer

Vitello may have reached that had he stayed another few years.
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I disagree on Fulmer being a legend
 
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I think legends are time sensitive. To me they need to have coached at least 20 years or longer at 1 school. When that school / sport is brought up you immediately think of them.
Fulmer had a good run of 10-12 years but only won 2 conference championships. Neyland built the program into a program that was known with the same names as other power house programs at their time, however his coaching career was broken up because of war. If not for that, he would be talked about alongside names from Army, Norte Dame. Pat basically started what women’s basketball is today. A legend talked about even today by other coaches and announcers alike.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Legend and elite are two entirely different things. Ray Broussard is a legend. Pat is a legend. Tony was elite but not a legend IMO. A Legend needs to be a coach for at least a decade
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A Legend in coaching to me is someone who ends up being revered and/or respected/feared by all. Neyland and Pat certainly are. In football, since the SEC expanded in 1992, I think there really have only been 2 in the SEC, Saban and Spurrier.
 
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Coach A
114-34 .770 winning percentage at _______
2 SEC Championships
1 National Title
1 National Runner up
Inherited very strong roster from a coach that won a natty
School claims 4 national titles
2-1 Career Record against Coach B

Coach B

151-52-1 .743 winning % at ________
2 SEC Championships
1 National Title
0 National Runner Ups
Inherited very strong roster from a coach that had won a natty
School claims 6 national titles
1-2 Career Record against Coach A


Coach B is Phil Fulmer. If you agree Coach B is a legend, would Coach A be a legend as well?




Les Miles
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
A Legend in coaching to me is someone who ends up being revered and/or respected/feared by all. Neyland and Pat certainly are. In football, since the SEC expanded in 1992, I think there really have only been 2 in the SEC, Saban and Spurrier.
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Spurrier was 3-1 against Saban. It would have been darn interesting to see more head to head match-ups between them.

Spurrier is certainly a SEC legend and probably gets a nod for his NC and for putting Florida on the National stage.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Coach A
114-34 .770 winning percentage at _______
2 SEC Championships
1 National Title
1 National Runner up
Inherited very strong roster from a coach that won a natty
School claims 4 national titles
2-1 Career Record against Coach B

Coach B

151-52-1 .743 winning % at ________
2 SEC Championships
1 National Title
0 National Runner Ups
Inherited very strong roster from a coach that had won a natty
School claims 6 national titles
1-2 Career Record against Coach A


Coach B is Phil Fulmer. If you agree Coach B is a legend, would Coach A be a legend as well?




Les Miles
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Or Coach C, 171-64, 72.7% at 2 schools
2 SEC championships
1 AP No. 2 finish, 1 AP No. 3
Followed mediocre coaches at both schools
9 claimed national championships total at both schools
3-2 record against Coach A.
5-3 record against Coach B.
 
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WillisWG said:
Spurrier was 3-1 against Saban. I would have been darn interesting to see more head to head match-ups between them.

Spurrier is certainly a SEC legend and probably gets a nod his NC and for putting Florida on the National stage.
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Spurrier was a truly excellent in-game coach, he revolutionized the conference also.
 
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IndianaVol said:
I don't think Fulmer gets put in the category Legend because he's still living.

Once he passes, he'll be called a legend. One of the winningest coaches in all of CFB in the 90s.

UT has been blessed with 3 true legends.
Neyland
Summit
Fulmer

Vitello may have reached that had he stayed another few years.
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You don’t have to be dead to be a legend lol
 
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WillisWG said:
Spurrier was 3-1 against Saban. It would have been darn interesting to see more head to head match-ups between them.

Spurrier is certainly a SEC legend and probably gets a nod for his NC and for putting Florida on the National stage.
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Spurrier was a truly excellent in-game coach, he revolutionized the conference also.
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Without him, Florida is probably never the Florida of Urban Myer and whoever else wins with them. They very well could have been as dominant as Miami and Florida State as far as the college football psyche.
 
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WillisWG said:
I don't see Holtz as a legend. He's ND's version of Fulmer, both have a NC but both fall short of being legends.
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It's not just what he did at ND IMO. He was successful at NC State and Arkansas as well (and moderately at USCjr) . I also think his career in TV makes a difference as well.

ND hasn't won a NC since either....
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
A Legend in coaching to me is someone who ends up being revered and/or respected/feared by all. Neyland and Pat certainly are. In football, since the SEC expanded in 1992, I think there really have only been 2 in the SEC, Saban and Spurrier.
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Agree. Smart getting there pretty fast. Truly appreciate Fulmer but wouldn’t put him in legend category. Now, if he stayed and won at high rate another 5 years to so or if he didn’t have the late career slide, maybe different. I mean I guess I’d say he’s a vol legend…but to the greater cfb arena prob not.
 
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