Prince out 3 to 4 weeks

[volbreaker]

Bruin fan here, came back from Knoxville very appreciative of how gracious and cool everyone at Neyland was, even after the game: we were invited to countless tailgates after the game. We enjoyed the pre-game, saw the Vol Walk, got to Calhoun's Friday night, all in all a great and memorable experience in one of the best college football atmospheres around.

That said, I do think UCLA managed to kinda quiet the crowd, except for the obvious third-down plays and your early TD. But after Cromp's second pick, you could sense the crowd turned on him, and the crowd barely cheered the Vols when they came out for the 2nd half. After the third pick our defense got confident and dominated the 3rd quarter, then hung on for dear life.

We were calling for the kneel-down ( to be followed by an intentional safety) on second down, and even though it looked like the ball crossed the goal line, the play-call was ridiculous. Neuheisel said in the LA Times that he made the play call, trying to get a first down and kill the game. The only way we can lose the game is a stupid turnover down there, and we were quite lucky that Franklin recovered his own fumble (watch the replay and you'll see Franklin toss the ball to the ref while still on his back), and then that Prince didn't cough it up in the end zone after the vicious (and legal) hit in the end zone.

I hope Tenn. fans now respect our defense, and don't blame it all on Cromp. Our team showed guts and deserve at least some credit: we have a great pair of corners and a fine young safety in Moore. I hope the cries of "soft Pac-10 defense" were sufficiently dismissed. We all hope you rebound and shock the Gators and regroup to whack the rest of your SEC opponents, in spite of your Trojan-dominated coaching staff. (and thanks to Coach Orgeron for the "soft" bulletin board material: once a Condom always a ......)

Glad you had a good time. The reason for a quieter run out after the half is because of our history with watching Crompton week in and week out. Most knew without a shadow of a doubt that he was going to continue the melt-down. Your D is solid and I'm NOT trying to take anything away from them by saying this, but, hey, let's be honest, Crompton makes it easy. Staring down recievers, missing open ones, making the team one dimensional. Against a D like yours, that is suicidal.

 

[allvol17]

Bruin fan here, came back from Knoxville very appreciative.... <snip>

Glad you enjoyed your time in K-town. It was a good game. Prince is a tough kid and your D is for real. Sorry to hear he had a broken jaw - really. Tough way to get hurt on the next to last play. I really thought our D would pull it out. With an average QB I think we might have. Hope our next set of games isn't 10 years in the making. Good luck with your season.

 

[Smokey'sDad]

Anyone know how many (if any) teeth he lost?

 

[Bassmanbruno]

I'm sorry but only 1 of the 4 TOs were due to the Bruin's defense. Crompton flat out locked on to Denarius Moore on one INT were he was complete blanketed by Verner from the start of the play to the end (and there was also safety help) - continued to stare him down and throw it right into Verner's hands, one was a horrible throw by Crompton where he missed a wipe open Gerald Jones by a mile, and Cody Sullins snapped the ball too early on another. I don't remember Crompton's 3rd INT so I have no idea if that was due to UCLA's d-line pressure or a great play by a corner/LB/safety - but I wouldn't be surprised if it was unforced as well.

UCLA's defense is great and Price is an all-american, but Crompton gave you 2 without a doubt as did our former walkon center (1). You all did pretty good against the run and good defending any rollout plays. The d-line tore the inside of our O-line up and had Crompton running for his life several times - but his picks seemed to come from the plays he actually had some time in the pocket sadly.

 

[PPPpartsp3]

Form the NCAA rule book regarding a safety:

As I read this, the position of the ball doesn't matter but the position of the player does. Not what I always thought but it does seem to read that way.

This has to do with spotting of the ball and forward progress. If the player is past the goal line with ball, and then gets knocked back, with the ball now inside the goal line, its not a safety, as the forward progress had been established already past the goal line. The ball is dead when forward progress is stopped by the defending team, or when the knee or elbow touches the ground. It can be a little bit of a judgment call, if someone is diving out of the end zone, in order to not get the safety.

 

[oUTKickedCoverage]

ARTICLE 1. It is a safety when:

a. The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, except from an
incompleted forward pass, or becomes dead in the possession of a player
on, above or behind his own goal line, or becomes dead by rule, and the
defending team is responsible for the ball being there (A.R. 6-3-1-IV and
V; A.R. 7-2-4-I; A.R. 8-5-1-I-III, VIII and XI; A.R. 8-7-2-V; and A.R.
9-4-1-IX).

on a safety the ball simply has to be touching the plane made by the goal line.

 

[oUTKickedCoverage]

An interesting interpretation could occur in the event in which the offense is considered solely responsible for a dead ball behind their own goal line.