Prince out 3 to 4 weeks

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Bruleif

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He apparently suffered a broken jaw from that helmet-to-helmet hit (which the refs did not call) in the end zone when the refs called a safety that was not a safety. If you do not believe there was a helmet-to-helmet hit, look at the replay.

Why is it that both the refs and the broadcasters did not know the rule on a safety? The rule is this, as I understand it: if ANY part of the ball pierces the plane defined by the edge of the goal line NEXT to the end zone, that is the edge going out of the end zone, then there is NO safety.

And, as so many people get wrong, spotting the ball in football should not be based on where the knee touches the ground but rather on WHERE THE BALL IS WHEN THE KNEE TOUCHES THE GROUND.

Were the officials an SEC crew?

Kudos to Prince for toughing it out.
 
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Bruleif said:
He apparently suffered a broken jaw from that helmet-to-helmet hit (which the refs did not call) in the end zone when the refs called a safety that was not a safety. If you do not believe there was a helmet-to-helmet hit, look at the replay.

Why is it that both the refs and the broadcasters did not know the rule on a safety? The rule is this, as I understand it: if ANY part of the ball pierces the plane defined by the edge of the goal line NEXT to the end zone, that is the edge going out of the end zone, then there is NO safety.

And, as so many people get wrong, spotting the ball in football should not be based on where the knee touches the ground but rather on WHERE THE BALL IS WHEN THE KNEE TOUCHES THE GROUND.

Were the officials an SEC crew?

Kudos to Prince for toughing it out.
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Toughing it out? All he did after that was take one knee.
 
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Do you even realize how much that safety benefitted you guys? If that ball is ruled out of the end zone, we are bringing all our guys for the punt block and getting ball about 20 yards closer.
 
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The refs are usually from the visiting teams conference, for one. And for two, if you actually "watched" the replay, his knee was down before the ball crossed or "landed on the plane". So it is actually a safety. Kudos to prince for getting that jaw broke by a tough defense.
 
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JFreak said:
Do you even realize how much that safety benefitted you guys? If that ball is ruled out of the end zone, we are bringing all our guys for the punt block and getting ball about 20 yards closer.
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No, they take more time off the clock between 3rd and 4th down then they take a safety on purpose.
 
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Reverse the safety call, and you have to punt out of your own endzone. Yeah, I'd rather that have happened, too.

Ninja'd.

Also, I thought it was kind of cool that kid got his jaw jacked.
 
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We got a safety, he got a broken jaw

You get a win, we get a broken heart.......seems it worked in your favor regardless
 
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JFreak said:
Do you even realize how much that safety benefitted you guys? If that ball is ruled out of the end zone, we are bringing all our guys for the punt block and getting ball about 20 yards closer.
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Considering that we lost yardage on that final drive, I am not sure it would have helped.
 
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that "safety" was the best thing that couldve happened for you. im not saying that we wouldve won (considering our QB play) but it wouldve made it a lot easier for us.

you should be asking yourselves, "was that a PAC-10 crew" because it certainly benefited you, not us.
 
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Bruleif said:
He apparently suffered a broken jaw from that helmet-to-helmet hit (which the refs did not call) in the end zone when the refs called a safety that was not a safety. If you do not believe there was a helmet-to-helmet hit, look at the replay.

Why is it that both the refs and the broadcasters did not know the rule on a safety? The rule is this, as I understand it: if ANY part of the ball pierces the plane defined by the edge of the goal line NEXT to the end zone, that is the edge going out of the end zone, then there is NO safety.

And, as so many people get wrong, spotting the ball in football should not be based on where the knee touches the ground but rather on WHERE THE BALL IS WHEN THE KNEE TOUCHES THE GROUND.

Were the officials an SEC crew?

Kudos to Prince for toughing it out.
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They looked at the call and came to their opinion that it was a saftey. It's the point the ball is at when his KNEE hits, not when he's lying on his a** bleeding from the mouth.

Personally I rather they would have said he got out. I'd rather you guys be punting from the back of your endzone then us having the ball at the 40. However, it didn't work that way.

Now go away.
 
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Jake Tate said:
The refs are usually from the visiting teams conference, for one. And for two, if you actually "watched" the replay, his knee was down before the ball crossed or "landed on the plane". So it is actually a safety. Kudos to prince for getting that jaw broke by a tough defense.
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I don't know what you are smoking but his knee hit and the ball crossing the plane of the end zone were simultaneous.n
 
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Bruleif said:
He apparently suffered a broken jaw from that helmet-to-helmet hit (which the refs did not call) in the end zone when the refs called a safety that was not a safety. If you do not believe there was a helmet-to-helmet hit, look at the replay.

Why is it that both the refs and the broadcasters did not know the rule on a safety? The rule is this, as I understand it: if ANY part of the ball pierces the plane defined by the edge of the goal line NEXT to the end zone, that is the edge going out of the end zone, then there is NO safety.

And, as so many people get wrong, spotting the ball in football should not be based on where the knee touches the ground but rather on WHERE THE BALL IS WHEN THE KNEE TOUCHES THE GROUND.

Were the officials an SEC crew?

Kudos to Prince for toughing it out.
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That sucks.
 
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I don't even see why this is that big of a deal. They were not going to punt out of the end zone, they would have the punter run out of the back of the end zone, to take a safety on the next play. It would have just given the ball back to UT with about a minute left, instead of 1:45. It didn't matter though, as there was no way Crompton could pass them to victory anyway.
 
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Bruleif said:
He never lost consciousness and he beat your sorry ass QB
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No, but is he is missing about 4 teeth and will be sucking his meals through a straw.

But I guess he's just gonna stand in the pocket against us like he did against SDSU and be fine, right? LOL
 
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Bruleif said:
He apparently suffered a broken jaw from that helmet-to-helmet hit (which the refs did not call) in the end zone when the refs called a safety that was not a safety. If you do not believe there was a helmet-to-helmet hit, look at the replay.

Why is it that both the refs and the broadcasters did not know the rule on a safety? The rule is this, as I understand it: if ANY part of the ball pierces the plane defined by the edge of the goal line NEXT to the end zone, that is the edge going out of the end zone, then there is NO safety.

And, as so many people get wrong, spotting the ball in football should not be based on where the knee touches the ground but rather on WHERE THE BALL IS WHEN THE KNEE TOUCHES THE GROUND.

Were the officials an SEC crew?

Kudos to Prince for toughing it out.
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To be quite honest, I am surprised he lasted that long. He was getting knocked around all day and still out performed Crompton.
 
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tennessee391 said:
No, they take more time off the clock between 3rd and 4th down then they take a safety on purpose.
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In that situation, the difference between 1:40 and 1 minute on the clock is negligible. We are throwing the ball every down regardless.
 
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The one play I would like to see again, is the fumble before that, as I thought UT recovered the fumble, not UCLA.
 
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CanadianVol said:
They looked at the call and came to their opinion that it was a saftey. It's the point the ball is at when his KNEE hits, not when he's lying on his a** bleeding from the mouth.

Personally I rather they would have said he got out. I'd rather you guys be punting from the back of your endzone then us having the ball at the 40. However, it didn't work that way.

Now go away.
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no way. They would have burned the clock to under a minute if he got out and we still would have gotten the safety. The call was exactly what we needed (well, in theory anyway)
 
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Actually i think the rule is different for the ball coming out of the endzone than it is going in. Going in the ball just has to break the plane but coming out the whole ball has to be past the line or its a safety! I might be wrong, so if anybody can prove to me other wise then that play was a safety. Sorry to hear about Prince's broken jaw, it shoutld have been done earlier in the game.
 
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