Price increase coming!!

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
But they are currently getting about 102,000 votes per game that say it is.

As long as the tickets sell and both the primary and secondary markets are booming, Danny isn't listening to people who say "the experience is not worth it."

Granted, it's not worth it to the same people it used to be worth it to, but there's a new generation of wealthier, still pretty rabid UT fan out there buying the seats others feel priced out of.

I know folks who complain they can't run to Gatlinburg on a weekend getaway like they used to because of prices or have switched from beef to chicken as their regular grill meal. The struggle is real but it's not just at Neyland.
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Again, you are oversimplifying it.

You're even missing half of the point I've made, as well as others in other threads. Separating game experience (which is declined drastically as well), simply dealing with UT/AD/TN Fund/et. al is a miserable experience.

He can not listen all he/you wants and believe the gravy train will keep on rolling.

You don't just have 1 or 2 year old accounts in the $50-$250 donation level saying it. You have accounts that are both decades old, and (I would think more importantly to DW) accounts with a $15,000 to $50,000+ annual spend getting fed up with it. There's a reason they haven't asked for any legitimate feedback in the last several years beyond the normal stadium experience stuff, and don't engage with accounts the same way.

Maybe I'm just too pollyannish about it, and that's their actual goal- to clear the field for more premium/corporate customers. I'd tell them to call SMI over in Concord and see how that's worked out for them.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Again, you are oversimplifying it.

You're even missing half of the point I've made, as well as others in other threads. Separating game experience (which is declined drastically as well), simply dealing with UT/AD/TN Fund/et. al is a miserable experience.

He can not listen all he/you wants and believe the gravy train will keep on rolling.

You don't just have 1 or 2 year old accounts in the $50-$250 donation level saying it. You have accounts that are both decades old, and (I would think more importantly to DW) accounts with a $15,000 to $50,000+ annual spend getting fed up with it. There's a reason they haven't asked for any legitimate feedback in the last several years beyond the normal stadium experience stuff, and don't engage with accounts the same way.

Maybe I'm just too pollyannish about it, and that's their actual goal- to clear the field for more premium/corporate customers. I'd tell them to call SMI over in Concord and see how that's worked out for them.
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If it's a price point issue, when attendance drops the price will drop. Right now, attendance isn't dropping and there's a multi thousand person waiting list to get tickets.

Viewership is also up, so interest isn't waning.

As long as viewership is up and that waiting list is long, saying "you're causing people to stop watching UT" simply isn't true.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
It's a pretty big deal. We were better than both those teams

12 make it.

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It’s not. If anything it showed us the 12 was very overboard. Ratings will be great bc more teams can have “Cinderella” runs and it will be a cash grab, but last year showed us anymore than 4-6 is overkill.

There was a vast difference in a 1-4 team and a 8-12 team.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
It’s not. If anything it showed us the 12 was very overboard. Ratings will be great bc more teams can have “Cinderella” runs and it will be a cash grab, but last year showed us anymore than 4-6 is overkill.

There was a vast difference in a 1-4 team and a 8-12 team.
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There wasn't that much difference between us and anyone else besides Ohio St
 
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WallyBalls said:
Again, you are oversimplifying it.

You're even missing half of the point I've made, as well as others in other threads. Separating game experience (which is declined drastically as well), simply dealing with UT/AD/TN Fund/et. al is a miserable experience.

He can not listen all he/you wants and believe the gravy train will keep on rolling.

You don't just have 1 or 2 year old accounts in the $50-$250 donation level saying it. You have accounts that are both decades old, and (I would think more importantly to DW) accounts with a $15,000 to $50,000+ annual spend getting fed up with it. There's a reason they haven't asked for any legitimate feedback in the last several years beyond the normal stadium experience stuff, and don't engage with accounts the same way.

Maybe I'm just too pollyannish about it, and that's their actual goal- to clear the field for more premium/corporate customers. I'd tell them to call SMI over in Concord and see how that's worked out for them.
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No, the real test is to tune into the first home game and see how it is working out. I predict a full house.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Serious question - not that I doubt the waiting list number - but I was just thinking - I had season tickets up through the 2021 season. I then decided not to renew my tickets for the 2022 season and be selective about the games I attended. I then decided to obtain season tickets for the 2023 season. I had absolutely no problem obtaining the season tickets for 2023 which was right after the stellar year! So, when did the waiting list blow up or do they put those that lapse a year back in front of others?
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I don't believe for one minute there's some stealthy waiting list lurking around. It's manufactured to keep season ticket holders holding on.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
If it's a price point issue, when attendance drops the price will drop. Right now, attendance isn't dropping and there's a multi thousand person waiting list to get tickets.

Viewership is also up, so interest isn't waning.

As long as viewership is up and that waiting list is long, saying "you're causing people to stop watching UT" simply isn't true.
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He is chasing away long-time supporters with his lack of empathy for the fans in the chase of draining every single penny he can get out of them.
 
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Sara Clark said:
I don't believe for one minute there's some stealthy waiting list lurking around. It's manufactured to keep season ticket holders holding on.
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That is how I feel as well - I remember when my roommate graduated from UT and was able to request tickets around 1980ish. Granted it was before all the expansions to the stadium. There was definitely a waiting list, and she had to wait for an opening.

I do believe there is a list of those who have expressed interest and have bought single game tickets etc. who they would reach out to if there are available season tickets. But that is not the same as having a list of thousands waiting with money in hand for an opening.
 
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EZE said:
No, the real test is to tune into the first home game and see how it is working out. I predict a full house.
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The first game is typically always a full house even after a bad year. Anticipation and expectations are high. Folks are just ready for football.

The only thing that would temper that is a loss in Atlanta.
 
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volfan102455 said:
He is chasing away long-time supporters with his lack of apathy for the fans in the chase of draining every single penny he can get out of them.
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Viewership on TV is up and there's a waiting list for tickets in the thousands.

Those supporters being priced out of Neyland are almost certainly watching on TV. Their tickets at Neyland are sold to former TV viewers.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Serious question - not that I doubt the waiting list number - but I was just thinking - I had season tickets up through the 2021 season. I then decided not to renew my tickets for the 2022 season and be selective about the games I attended. I then decided to obtain season tickets for the 2023 season. I had absolutely no problem obtaining the season tickets for 2023 which was right after the stellar year! So, when did the waiting list blow up or do they put those that lapse a year back in front of others?
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Assuming since you were a previous season ticket holder you still had TN Fund points and rank? That could have helped you possibly move up the list over others on the waiting list that haven't had a chance to build a base of points.
 
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volfan102455 said:
That is how I feel as well - I remember when my roommate graduated from UT and was able to request tickets around 1980ish. Granted it was before all the expansions to the stadium. There was definitely a waiting list, and she had to wait for an opening.

I do believe there is a list of those who have expressed interest and have bought single game tickets etc. who they would reach out to if there are available season tickets. But that is not the same as having a list of thousands waiting with money in hand for an opening.
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There are some connective avenues available without huge donations, but those are extremely limited.
 
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volfan102455 said:
That is how I feel as well - I remember when my roommate graduated from UT and was able to request tickets around 1980ish. Granted it was before all the expansions to the stadium. There was definitely a waiting list, and she had to wait for an opening.

I do believe there is a list of those who have expressed interest and have bought single game tickets etc. who they would reach out to if there are available season tickets. But that is not the same as having a list of thousands waiting with money in hand for an opening.
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Every year that I renew, I'm asked if I would like to purchase additional season tickets.
 
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EastTNVol6240 said:
It’s not. If anything it showed us the 12 was very overboard. Ratings will be great bc more teams can have “Cinderella” runs and it will be a cash grab, but last year showed us anymore than 4-6 is overkill.

There was a vast difference in a 1-4 team and a 8-12 team.
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The vast difference was between OSU and everyone else. And dont worry, its going to get even "better" when it expands again to 16 teams.
 
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Sara Clark said:
Every year that I renew, I'm asked if I would like to purchase additional season tickets.
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The truth is that the price increases will never be enough. That’s the nature of survival. Apply it to anything or anyone and it holds true.

Does $3000 or $15000 buy more happiness with something else than it does with TN athletics? I don’t know. It’s the social aspect of it all that makes sports worthwhile. The fewer who can enjoy it, the less it is worth.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
If it's a price point issue, when attendance drops the price will drop. Right now, attendance isn't dropping and there's a multi thousand person waiting list to get tickets.

Viewership is also up, so interest isn't waning.

As long as viewership is up and that waiting list is long, saying "you're causing people to stop watching UT" simply isn't true.
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Huh? You're all over the place. "you're causing people to stop watching UT". I haven't said that so I'm not even sure why that's in there.

Are you all trying to equate viewership and ticket sales/prices? Viewership vs live gate isn't close to the same thing.

But the main point:

"....when attendance drops the price will drop."

Brother, if you believe that... I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Huh? You're all over the place. "you're causing people to stop watching UT". I haven't said that so I'm not even sure why that's in there.

Are you all trying to equate viewership and ticket sales/prices? Viewership vs live gate isn't close to the same thing.

But the main point:

"....when attendance drops the price will drop."

Brother, if you believe that... I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.
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The complaint currently that "people are being priced out of going" is true because some people are unable to justify the cost of season tickets anymore but they are merely replaced by those who can and will currently justify that cost and buy the tickets.

People here are attaching too much value to long-term attendees vs new attendees.

Folks who've been on the list, donating for years, and unable to get season tickets see it much differently when they finally get a shot at seats.
 
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