Pretty disturbing.

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UVA and UNC are impossible out of state, but so is Vandy. Your best shot for getting into Vanderbilt is being both very qualified and living somewhere in Tennessee that is not Nashville. Getting into Vandy from Nashville is as hard as getting in from another state.
 
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CovVol said:
Technically, they didnt accomplish the mission in Vietnam... but it was considered an Armed Conflict. Current Armed Conflict in IRAQ/AFGHANASTAN still pending.
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They not only didn't accomplish the mission (keep South Vietnam from falling into the communist bloc), they failed miserably. South Vietnam crumbled and fell to the North after we pulled out our troops.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
UVA and UNC are impossible out of state, but so is Vandy. Your best shot for getting into Vanderbilt is being both very qualified and living somewhere in Tennessee that is not Nashville. Getting into Vandy from Nashville is as hard as getting in from another state.
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Vanderbilt technically does not give preferrence to anyone based on location. However, they do value geographic diversity among their student population, so there is, in fact, a slight bias away from hometown kids.

BigPapaVol said:
seriously? Rice is the best school in the south and UVA, UNC, Davidson and W&L all have tougher entrance criteria (UVA and UNC for out of staters).
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As bad as I hate to admit it, Duke is probably the best school in the South. UVA, UNC, and Texas (my addition) are all three very good for state schools, and their best students are as educated as those from any school, however, there is no comparison in the quality of education that the middle, much less bottom, tier of their student body receives.

The fact that Davidson and W&L reject a high portion of applicants does not by itself make them better schools and, without delving too far into argument, I will opine that they are not.

Vandy is consistently ranked among the top 20 for their undergraduate programs and graduate programs alike. That puts them in a fairly select group between the handfull of schools that have (and probably will) topped the rankings forever and the ones that continually struggle for national prestige. It is as good of a school as you are going to find south of the Ivy League and east of Silicon Valley.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
UVA and UNC are impossible out of state, but so is Vandy. Your best shot for getting into Vanderbilt is being both very qualified and living somewhere in Tennessee that is not Nashville. Getting into Vandy from Nashville is as hard as getting in from another state.
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True! A kid who played bball with my son graduated two years ago with honors and a 3.75 GPA. His mother worked for Vanderbilt University. We live in Cheatham Co. and he still did not get an academic scholarship.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
They not only didn't accomplish the mission (keep South Vietnam from falling into the communist bloc), they failed miserably. South Vietnam crumbled and fell to the North after we pulled out our troops.
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This opinion coming after how many tours in the 'Nam?

We won every single battle in the entire war.... we only 'failed' to break the will of the North Vietnamese.
 
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CovVol said:
This opinion coming after how many tours in the 'Nam?

We won every single battle in the entire war.... we only 'failed' to break the will of the North Vietnamese.
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Correct our soldiers did not lose that war. We as a country lost the resolve and will power to do what was necessary to win that or any other war for that matter. It also gave the world the blueprint for how to fight a military power that is much stronger. In short you hide among the population.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
They not only didn't accomplish the mission (keep South Vietnam from falling into the communist bloc), they failed miserably. South Vietnam crumbled and fell to the North after we pulled out our troops.
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That's just wrong on so many levels.
 
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Midfielder10 said:
They not only didn't accomplish the mission (keep South Vietnam from falling into the communist bloc), they failed miserably. South Vietnam crumbled and fell to the North after we pulled out our troops.
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They???????

What a jerk!

The soldiers did every thing required of them!

The politicans failed!
 
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cotton said:
Vanderbilt technically does not give preferrence to anyone based on location. However, they do value geographic diversity among their student population, so there is, in fact, a slight bias away from hometown kids.



As bad as I hate to admit it, Duke is probably the best school in the South. UVA, UNC, and Texas (my addition) are all three very good for state schools, and their best students are as educated as those from any school, however, there is no comparison in the quality of education that the middle, much less bottom, tier of their student body receives.

The fact that Davidson and W&L reject a high portion of applicants does not by itself make them better schools and, without delving too far into argument, I will opine that they are not.

Vandy is consistently ranked among the top 20 for their undergraduate programs and graduate programs alike. That puts them in a fairly select group between the handfull of schools that have (and probably will) topped the rankings forever and the ones that continually struggle for national prestige. It is as good of a school as you are going to find south of the Ivy League and east of Silicon Valley.
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I hear what you are saying, but you graduating from Vandy hurts your objectivity here.

W&L and Vandy aren't even close in quality of overall student body and I'd say that post graduation results are a very good indicator of that fact.

I'd send my kids out of state to UVA or UNC over Vandy all day long. I think both offer a better education in general. Forget the quality of the school across the whole student body, given that UVA is obscenely difficult to get into from out of state, the upper echelon classes are loaded with top notch students, allowing for top notch instruction and learning pace. UNC is similar, though not quite the same. Ditto Davidson. Tiny acceptance rates allow for more demanding classrooms because of the quality of the students sitting in them.

And finally, I firmly believe that Rice and Duke are the best schools in the South.

Graduate programs - both UVA and Duke are well ahead of Vandy, almost across the board.

I'm not trying to bash Vandy, I believe the others are truly better schools.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
fair enough. throw Rice out, because I can't believe they can get smart kids to come to Houston in the first place.
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Anyone who would choose to go to school in either Houston or Nashville is, by definition, precluded from being considered smart.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Anyone who would choose to go to school in either Houston or Nashville is, by definition, precluded from being considered smart.
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you know my opinion of Nashville. I have no qualms with people deciding to go there. However, Vandy is for many of their best students, a fallback position for folks who couldn't get in at Ivy League schools or Duke and the like.

Houston is the worst city I've ever been in, including third world countries.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
you know my opinion of Nashville. I have no qualms with people deciding to go there. However, Vandy is for many of their best students, a fallback position for folks who couldn't get in at Ivy League schools or Duke and the like.

Houston is the worst city I've ever been in, including third world countries.
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Have you seen Bombay?
 
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Midfielder10 said:
Which school would you send your kids to?
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Any school on the planet, with one exception. I hope to give my children complete and utter freedom of choice in all matters of their adult life. Vanderbilt would be a deal breaker!
 
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Lexvol said:
Any school on the planet, with one exception. I hope to give my children complete and utter freedom of choice in all matters of their adult life. Vanderbilt would be a deal breaker!
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if they truly have the ability to excel at Vandy, I would have a tough time with them actually attending. If it's a stretch and they slip in, then maybe.
 
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#70
"If you can't find anything good to say about Tennessee then say something bad about Vanderbilt"
 
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Midfielder10 said:
Vanderbilt had no sports receive academic sanctions this past week. Tennessee had 3. Tennessee has had 2 players kicked off the team for behavior, Vandy 0. Vanderbilt dominates UT in baseball and has for about the past 3 years. Vandy was about a foot away from beating us in Neyland again for the 2nd time in the last 3 years. We only split with them in basketball.

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If my child was doing only an undergraduate degree, I would prefer Vandy. Degree prestige speaks volumes these days. In this job market, a better name opens more doors. (Before you slam me with anecdotes of your bother, cousin and best friend who got a job with a high school diploma, I'll qualify my statement by saying it's a general rule, which, of course, has exceptions).

If the child wanted to do a graduate or professional degree afterwards, I'd say go have fun at UT but you better keep your grades up and get a fancy degree afterwards.
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depends on what type of jobs you are talking about. if he/she want to go to wall st, you nead a big name school to even get an interview. but if you can rock it at UT and have a very high GPA, my guess is you can get an interview in most professions. For most big companies a very high GPA at a good school is more valuable than a low gpa at a great school. Of course in my experience private schools are usually easier than public schools because of grade inflation.
 
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droski said:
depends on what type of jobs you are talking about. if he/she want to go to wall st, you nead a big name school to even get an interview. but if you can rock it at UT and have a very high GPA, my guess is you can get an interview in most professions. For most big companies a very high GPA at a good school is more valuable than a low gpa at a great school. Of course in my experience private schools are usually easier than public schools because of grade inflation.
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yeah, they can get jobs, but if the choice is between a similar candidate with a better degree, they will lose. for me, my undergrad degree doesn't matter. no one cares where i did it because i have a grad degree. and i know for a fact i've won out against candidates from lesser schools who had a higher GPA than i did.
 
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