Preston Williams and why it matters

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tennrich1 said:
Sorry but on this one I'll have to lay most of the blame on the player....his effort NEVER approached his talent level at least from what I saw. He literally cost us the Arkansas game with the fumble when HE SHOULD HAVE SCORED!! Having said that I sure do hope he's figured it out now and gives 100% all the time and becomes All-American. Now that will really give the "hate CBJ" crowd some ammo....
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Is that the same game we were up 17-0? 1 player didn’t cost us that game. Maybe 1 coach, but not 1 player.
 
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HeyHeyUT said:
9 catches. 188 yards in debut with Colorado State vs Hawaii.

Another example of how our last staff turned A+ ability into C- performance. For other examples just watch any NFL preseason game where former Vols are killing it.

And it matters because... there is still plenty of A+ ability on the roster and with with this new staff wgwtfa

Go Vols 34-27 over WVU
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Who are all of these former Vols who are killing it in the preseason?
 
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Pruitt Will Do It said:
Colorado State,Bowling Green and North Carolina will probably be looking for head coaches in December and Botch Jones will probably get in touch with them:D
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Why Colorado State? Bobo’s job appears safe unless you think a bigger school snaps him up.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
Is that the same game we were up 17-0? 1 player didn’t cost us that game. Maybe 1 coach, but not 1 player.
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Technically correct...I dare say...he doesn't fumble and we win...but you're points taken...I thought surely folks would know what I meant but you're right...
 
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norrislakevol said:
Doesn't matter. Preston has all the tools to be an NFL receiver someday.....and he will be. We knew that when he was here. Sucks how things worked out. Imagine him, Calloway and Jennings on the field at the same time.
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You can have the measurables but if your attitude is junk they don’t matter.

I get the environment wasn’t the best but Patterson was here and didn’t quit. If anyone had the “right” to leave a bad spot it was him.
 
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tennrich1 said:
Sorry but on this one I'll have to lay most of the blame on the player....his effort NEVER approached his talent level at least from what I saw. He literally cost us the Arkansas game with the fumble when HE SHOULD HAVE SCORED!! Having said that I sure do hope he's figured it out now and gives 100% all the time and becomes All-American. Now that will really give the "hate CBJ" crowd some ammo....
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Do you really think they need more ammo? Butch is as bullet-riddled as James Caan in Godfather - of course well-deserved.
 
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SalVolinus said:
Sumlin got fired, and immediately got another P5 HC job.
Charlie strong got fired, and immediately got another HC job.
Lane Kiffin got fired, and immediately got another HC job.

Butch Jones and Derek Dooley got fired and got relegated to water boy status.

Make of that what you will.
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Dooley got a job as an NFL WR coach, don't know if I'd call that water boy status. Sure beats interning for Saban, I would think. It will be quite interesting to see how it goes for him as an SEC offensive coordinator this fall.
 
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#61
Besides ETSU, Charlotte and UTEP, Hawaii would be the worst defense Tennessee wold play. Relax people, the kid didn’t really want to be here in the first place and you don’t win championships with guys like him. Let it go.
 
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Volinnooga said:
Our staff did nothing to turn him into the spoiled prima donna he was. He did it to himself and he's the one that quit
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Lol...it seems this same quote has been repeated on multiple players but the only common denominator was CBJ.
 
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wmcovol said:
Besides ETSU, Charlotte and UTEP, Hawaii would be the worst defense Tennessee wold play. Relax people, the kid didn’t really want to be here in the first place and you don’t win championships with guys like him. Let it go.
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Love how we like to degrade people abilities when it doesn't follow the prescripted narrative.
 
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butchna said:
Why Colorado State? Bobo’s job appears safe unless you think a bigger school snaps him up.
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Yeah, he is probably safe. He's been 7-6 in each of his 3 seasons and it looks like that's about what they will be again. That is good enough at Colorado State. He is not a rising star, though.
 
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VolDave53 said:
Lyle having a typical day:

Idiot-at-Work.jpg
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Why you are just a negavol

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BowlBrother85 said:
Yeah, he is probably safe. He's been 7-6 in each of his 3 seasons and it looks like that's about what they will be again. That is good enough at Colorado State. He is not a rising star, though.
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Neither was Les Miles at Oklahoma State. And Gene Chizik at Iowa State?
 
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Air_Force_Vol27 said:
Our last staff also couldn't control their players properly and did nothing to help level him out
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There may be some bit of truth there, but at some point, a kid has to take responsibility for his own actions. PW decided it was time to leave so he did. I don't think hat's the type player I want on my team
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Great coaches manage personalities and egos.
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I'm with you on good leadership being able to overcome some thorny subordinate personalities...

...but from what I've seen, more often than not great coaches run roughshod over eccentric personalities and inflated egos. It's not "managing," it's "owning" them. They just smash 'em flat and leave the player no doubt about who gets to call the tune for the team.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
I'm with you on good leadership being able to overcome some thorny subordinate personalities...

...but from what I've seen, more often than not great coaches run roughshod over eccentric personalities and inflated egos. It's not "managing," it's "owning" them. They just smash 'em flat and leave the player no doubt about who gets to call the tune for the team.
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Not if they are good enough they don't. Jimmy Johnson comes to mind. Lou Holtz, Bobby Bowden, Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Bob Stoops. Manage the players within the system. Big egos are not necessarily a bad thing.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Not if they are good enough they don't. Jimmy Johnson comes to mind. Lou Holtz, Bobby Bowden, Urban Meyer, Steve Spurrier, Bob Stoops. Manage the players within the system. Big egos are not necessarily a bad thing.
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Robert Neyland, Woody Hayes, Bear Bryant, and a host of other "old guys" take exception to your first sentence.

Come to think of it, maybe this is a generational shift. "My way or the highway" was the common attitude for hard-nosed football coaches from the inception of the game up through the mid 1900s. But you're right, in recent decades a kinder, gentler version of the successful head football coach has come into being.

Then again, there's Nick Saban.

So maybe things haven't changed as much as all that.
 
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