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swampfoxfan said:
First off, I own several guns. 3 hand guns, 7 long guns. Along with 4 air rifles. And of course a red Ryder. It is insanely easy to get one. No requirement for responsible use.

Democrats running for office have been responsible for more gun sales than any security threat. How many times have I heard "their going to take your guns ". So tell me which Democratic president tried to take your guns?

I want to use the bodies of dead children to demand some effort to end their murder begins.
No more thoughts and prayers.
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Great! Then lets talk about some of your ideas
 
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swampfoxfan said:
But you posted the everyone dies defense and consider that a smart stance? Apparently so does hogg
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I posted mocking your “if one child dies argument” as pathetic. That’s not exactly the same thing.

Out of curiousity do you know where the issue of child school deaths per capita is the worst?
 
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hog88 said:
You guys mean the people who pop off with gun control everytime one of these tragic events happen. If thats not you you should have taken offense.
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That's a pretty broad group. Some in that group actually want to ban guns. Others, who own guns, think there should be more restrictions for previous felonious criminals and those who have documented mental defects. I have no reason to take offense. I am telling you why, IMO, there are clear distinctions for which you can't generalize into one group. It's more about giving you some crap than me being offended.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
That's a pretty broad group. Some in that group actually want to ban guns. Others, who own guns, think there should be more restrictions for previous felonious criminals and those who have documented mental defects. I have no reason to take offense. I am telling you why, IMO, there are clear distinctions for which you can't generalize into one group. It's more about giving you some crap than me being offended.
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Ok Karen
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Did he actually say he wanted to ban guns?

There has actually never been any serious legislation presented to ban guns in this century. Nevertheless, right wingers have used that narrative, especially the NRA, to gaslight that the 2nd amendment was being attacked, as in totally repealed. It's always been fringe groups that wanted to get rid of guns. You've eaten that narrative up because it was aimed at your ilk. Your narrative towards Swampy is absolute BS. To think you could possibly know what he believes or his motives makes your take not only silly, but uninformed and immature. Do you have the first damn clue about the shooter at the school in Colorado the same day Kirk was shot?
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He’s more than welcome to tell us if he truly has any real ideas to save all these school children he’s pretending to care about. The truth is he does not. Rather he simply intends to cry about guns and openly mocks gun rights. We both know that’s true. Unless he really just hates kids and wants to keep his solutions a secret.

No sure the relevance to the Colorado shooting. Go ahead and make your point if you have one
 
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swampfoxfan said:
First off, I own several guns. 3 hand guns, 7 long guns. Along with 4 air rifles.
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This is the black friends argument. “I’m not racist!”

Also why does an adult own an air rifle.

swampfoxfan said:
And of course a red Ryder. It is insanely easy to get one. No requirement for responsible use.
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Scary

swampfoxfan said:
Democrats running for office have been responsible for more gun sales than any security threat. How many times have I heard "their going to take your guns ". So tell me which Democratic president tried to take your guns?

I want to use the bodies of dead children to demand some effort to end their murder begins.
No more thoughts and prayers.
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Then explain yourself. If democrats have solutions and the right only offers thoughts and prayers, provide them.

What’s your solution that does not involve taking guns
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
That's a pretty broad group. Some in that group actually want to ban guns. Others, who own guns, think there should be more restrictions for previous felonious criminals and those who have documented mental defects. I have no reason to take offense. I am telling you why, IMO, there are clear distinctions for which you can't generalize into one group. It's more about giving you some crap than me being offended.
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And which of those categories do you fall in?
 
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Vol8188 said:
He’s more than welcome to tell us if he truly has any real ideas to save all these school children he’s pretending to care about. The truth is he does not. Rather he simply intends to cry about guns and openly mocks gun rights. We both know that’s true. Unless he really just hates kids and wants to keep his solutions a secret.

No sure the relevance to the Colorado shooting. Go ahead and make your point if you have one
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Save the schools? Red states, all over the country have put armed LEOs at every school in their districts. It has worked for the most part. Then you get shootings where it didn't make a difference. Still, the number of safe school districts outweigh those who have had tragic shootings.

The Colorado shooting has a high relevance to Kirk's murder. Both responsible parties had ideological motives for their terror
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Save the schools? Red states, all over the country have put armed LEOs at every school in their districts. It has worked for the most part. Then you get shootings where it didn't make a difference. Still, the number of safe school districts outweigh those who have had tragic shootings.
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Define your terms. You just seem to like to type without any clear direction. What is a “safe school district”, what is not?

BernardKingGOAT said:
The Colorado shooting has a high relevance to Kirk's murder. Both responsible parties had ideological motives for their terror
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still don’t know where you’re going with this. One person killed a celebrity. That obviously got more attention.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If you were smart, it would be reasonable to expect you to define what you mean. You referred to safe school districts. What criteria do you believe makes a school district significantly safer than any other?

It’s a reasonable question
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I am not smart like you🤭

A safe school, IMO, would be those who have never had an act of tragic violence perpetuated by an outside entity. No one can predict the behavior of a random, mentally ill student. Armed guards can't hardly prevent such an isolated attack
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
In some states, felons can purchase guns after serving their sentence
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That’s a minority of states, typically applies to nonviolent felons, often requires 5 years or even up to 15 years. Some of those states even require a court appeal to regain such rights.

If we are pretending this is related to “the right doesn’t care about dead kids” or homicides in general type argument that started the conversation;

I think we’d both have to agree that on average, rounded to the nearest whole number, the type of restriction you’re suggesting would save less than 1 life annually.
 
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