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BeardedVol said:
Lol, you literally cited the CBO when you erroneously thought that it was $177 billion/year increase.

So why are you trying to discredit them now?

Is it really that hard for you to accept that you were wrong?
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I did quote the CBO I misread it .. That why I followed up with the paragraph below and the following post that you ignore... Is it hard to accept that illegal immigration is a loss to society...?


For grok

based on the figures provided, the annual entitlement costs for illegal immigrants and their U.S.-born children (approximately $182 billion, per the 2023 FAIR study) exceed their tax contributions (approximately $96.7 billion, per the 2024 ITEP study), resulting in a net fiscal loss of about $85.3 billion annually.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
No illegal has taken advantage of my family, only times I have been cheated or robbed was Americans.

So what exactly eggs on your hatred of immigrants? What advantages have they taken of you?
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Then you’re not paying attention.

Don’t confuse my love for my community/country as hatred for immigrants. My issues is with ones who crossed illegally and are not here legally. Know the difference.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
How have you, specifically, been taken advantage of by undocumented immigrants?
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Illegal immigration impacts communities in different and multiple ways. I won't list them all here.

1. This week my wife and I had a discussion about transferring our kid from the current charter school to the public school we had our oldest at a few years ago. We went to the local public school administration who said ok no problem. Further due diligence through conversations with the guidance counselor. Find out the school is out of space and got kids in the gym while they try to figure out what to do with them all. How did it get so bad, so overcrowded so quickly? Some of it is state migration while a lot of it is illegal immigration.

2. In law live in a townhome. She has been the close to 20 year when it was built new. She has never had any issues. Recently a group of mostly hispanic males took up residence beside her. It seems difficult to often nail down the number of people living in these residences. Nice guys but didn't really speak English. Probably renting. The management companies don't care. They just want the check. They guys turned the driveway into an auto repair area for their beat up cars. Just made it look bad. Don't try to sell under those conditions unless it's to corporate big wigs from other state. Someone there got into a car accident. The next thing you know they are gone. Went back to Mexico.

The moral of the story is just because you haven't experienced or personally understand how illegal immigration impacts people or communities it doesn't mean it's not happening.

This is what blind liberalism is all about. Being far removed from the consequences of actions and decisions that govern pragmatic approaches. See no evil hear no evil.
 
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Hopefully more driving jobs for Americans ...

From the article:

More than 1,200 truckers have been removed from U.S. highways since late June for being unable to communicate adequately in English or read English-language highway signs, Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration data revealed.

U.S.-domiciled commercial motor vehicles accounted for 99% of the violations issued, while Canadian and Mexican domiciled companies each represented about a half percentage point.

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More Than 1,200 Truck Drivers Fail English-Language Tests - TT

More than 1,200 truckers have been removed from U.S. highways since late June for being unable to communicate adequately in English or read English-language highway signs.
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swampfoxfan said:
I can't provide you with links,but it's pretty common knowledge that most red state's receive more than they give.
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This screams of the old social security/medicare funding stupidity. Both of those plans are federally mandated retirement benefits levied by the Feds on individuals. When they retire SMART individuals move to lower cost states which are predominantly red states. No single state gives the Feds a penny. All money to the Feds comes from corporations and individual taxpayers.
 
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CobbVol said:
Hopefully more driving jobs for Americans ...

From the article:

More than 1,200 truckers have been removed from U.S. highways since late June for being unable to communicate adequately in English or read English-language highway signs, Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration data revealed.

U.S.-domiciled commercial motor vehicles accounted for 99% of the violations issued, while Canadian and Mexican domiciled companies each represented about a half percentage point.

www.ttnews.com

More Than 1,200 Truck Drivers Fail English-Language Tests - TT

More than 1,200 truckers have been removed from U.S. highways since late June for being unable to communicate adequately in English or read English-language highway signs.
www.ttnews.com www.ttnews.com
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Self driving trucks enter the chat.
 
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hog88 said:
They already have those if you consider passenger trains locomotives. Plus even with freight trains 2 people move 100x or more cargo than trucks.
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That’s actually a very good point. While total freight is higher for trucking when you include all the local routes on an efficiency basis for human oversight locomotives already win by a long shot. And always have.
 
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hog88 said:
They already have those if you consider passenger trains locomotives. Plus even with freight trains 2 people move 100x or more cargo than trucks.
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Agreed. AmTrak still has crews since they use the existing rail infrastructure. Given that RRs own the ROW and related systems it would be quicker to implement versus over the road.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Illegal immigration impacts communities in different and multiple ways. I won't list them all here.

1. This week my wife and I had a discussion about transferring our kid from the current charter school to the public school we had our oldest at a few years ago. We went to the local public school administration who said ok no problem. Further due diligence through conversations with the guidance counselor. Find out the school is out of space and got kids in the gym while they try to figure out what to do with them all. How did it get so bad, so overcrowded so quickly? Some of it is state migration while a lot of it is illegal immigration.

2. In law live in a townhome. She has been the close to 20 year when it was built new. She has never had any issues. Recently a group of mostly hispanic males took up residence beside her. It seems difficult to often nail down the number of people living in these residences. Nice guys but didn't really speak English. Probably renting. The management companies don't care. They just want the check. They guys turned the driveway into an auto repair area for their beat up cars. Just made it look bad. Don't try to sell under those conditions unless it's to corporate big wigs from other state. Someone there got into a car accident. The next thing you know they are gone. Went back to Mexico.

The moral of the story is just because you haven't experienced or personally understand how illegal immigration impacts people or communities it doesn't mean it's not happening.

This is what blind liberalism is all about. Being far removed from the consequences of actions and decisions that govern pragmatic approaches. See no evil hear no evil.
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My question was out of blind liberalism?

🤣🤭🤣🤣🤣🤭🤭🤭I am glad you figured it out.
 
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