President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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BeardedVol said:
Trump had ~100 secret service agents assigned to him as a former president as part of his personal security detail.

I have no idea what their shifts look like, but for the sake of argument, let's assume 1/3-1/2 would have been involved in his direct security, and as you said, another 20 were dispatched by Secret Service for the event. That's 50-70 agents for the event, plus the state and local law enforcement that was providing additional security.

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Crooks was outside of any perimeter that was maintained by SS directly even if there had been more agents on site, as local law enforcement were literally inside the building that Crooks shot from, and were charged with securing it as well as the entire outer perimeter.
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He wasn't outside of eyesight.
 
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EasternVol said:
Do you think ADP manipulates their data for political reasons? That would be pretty risky for a company with their exposure. Maybe we should wait until the confirmed data is out before we point at one party or another.
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Unknown. They probably need to relook at their model as inaccurate as they were last month. Pretty risky being that far off.
 
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I’m semi retired and me & the Mrs would like to visit more of the national parks. We’re finding over crowding to be a real problem and much of the crowds are Asian / Indians / Pakistani folks most of which don’t appear to speak English and certainly don’t understand the American concept of personal space. These are American national parks and American tax paying citizens should have priority access IMO. Just look at the Smokeys as it’s becoming near impossible to safely drive from Gatlinburg to Cherokee through Newfound Gap without running over a brown person walking on the roads. Went to the Rocky Mountain NP last week and they’ve instituted a timed entry system that’s near impossible to access only at 7:00 pm the prior evening unless you know exactly what day/time you hope to visit months in advance. Something needs to change or these American treasures will become undesirable to visit.
 
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CobbVol said:
ADP uses their own numbers from their customers and projects/models from that. Another thing that is kinda like climate change info after they manipulate and model.
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ADP doesnt have the same quality of info as they did 10 years ago. They get a lot of this information from new hires screening and the WOTC survey/application. They have lost a ton of market share in this space. For example, they lost Wal Mart in this space a few years back. They are still getting tons of data, just not nearly the quality that they once received....

@EasternVol - No I dont think they manipulate for political purposes.
 
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swampfoxfan said:
I have every right to hold the opinion I do, free from your juvenile insults. In other words, respect your elder war veterans, don't be a punk.
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You have every right to have a nut job opinion

He has every right to mock you for said opinion

Age nor veteran status changes that.
 
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walkenvol said:
I’m semi retired and me & the Mrs would like to visit more of the national parks. We’re finding over crowding to be a real problem and much of the crowds are Asian / Indians / Pakistani folks most of which don’t appear to speak English and certainly don’t understand the American concept of personal space. These are American national parks and American tax paying citizens should have priority access IMO. Just look at the Smokeys as it’s becoming near impossible to safely drive from Gatlinburg to Cherokee through Newfound Gap without running over a brown person walking on the roads. Went to the Rocky Mountain NP last week and they’ve instituted a timed entry system that’s near impossible to access only at 7:00 pm the prior evening unless you know exactly what day/time you hope to visit months in advance. Something needs to change or these American treasures will become undesirable to visit.
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Brown person? Are those the only ones in danger?

No fears about our national treasures desirability. After thier logged off and subdivided nobody will desire visiting.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Let's not get carried away. If Swampy's lunacy level could translate into life as a golfer he would shoot 18 on every round even if blindfolded.

Actually I refuse to believe anyone can actually hold the level of stupidity he portrays.
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You holda higher level along with being a ....
 
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volfanhill said:
You have every right to have a nut job opinion

He has every right to mock you for said opinion

Age nor veteran status changes that.
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I'm not the only one to have the same opinion.

Futher evidence is tRump saying it happened, he lies lies lies.

He did his typical showmanship with the laundry basket sized bandage.

Did he wear crutches due to bone spurs??
 
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swampfoxfan said:
Brown person? Are those the only ones in danger?

No fears about our national treasures desirability. After thier logged off and subdivided nobody will desire visiting.
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I can only speak from my personal experiences, but yes the brown and yellow folks meander out into traffic at an exponentially higher rate than black and white folks. Might have something to do with the places they live have higher density rates and pedestrians mixing with vehicle traffic is considered normal. Again, just my experiences and maybe others who have differing experiences will add to the conversation. Have you attempted to drive from Gatlinburg to Cherokee lately and if so what was your experience. What time and day if the week?
 
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