President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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Trump slurs through a chaotic announcement that he bombed three Iranian nuclear sites, declaring “now is the time for peace” after launching a war without congressional approval

 
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Trump slurs through a chaotic announcement that he bombed three Iranian nuclear sites, declaring “now is the time for peace” after launching a war without congressional approval

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You post some crazy made up lies 24/7. I can't believe you really believe what you post.
 
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GROK:

Elizabeth MacDonough, the Senate Parliamentarian, can be fired by the Senate Majority Leader, currently John Thune, as the parliamentarian serves at the pleasure of the majority leader. This means Thune has the authority to remove her from the position. Historically, this has happened, such as in 2001 when Majority Leader Trent Lott fired Parliamentarian Robert Dove over a rules dispute.

JD Vance, as Vice President and President of the Senate, does not have direct authority to fire the parliamentarian, as this power rests with the Senate Majority Leader. However, Vance could overrule MacDonough’s advisory rulings on Senate procedure, though such actions are rare and controversial, with the last instance occurring in 1975 by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller. X posts suggest some public sentiment urging Vance to influence or override MacDonough’s decisions, particularly regarding the "Big, Beautiful Bill," but these posts do not confirm his authority to fire her
 
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GROK:

Elizabeth MacDonough, the Senate Parliamentarian, can be fired by the Senate Majority Leader, currently John Thune, as the parliamentarian serves at the pleasure of the majority leader. This means Thune has the authority to remove her from the position. Historically, this has happened, such as in 2001 when Majority Leader Trent Lott fired Parliamentarian Robert Dove over a rules dispute.

JD Vance, as Vice President and President of the Senate, does not have direct authority to fire the parliamentarian, as this power rests with the Senate Majority Leader. However, Vance could overrule MacDonough’s advisory rulings on Senate procedure, though such actions are rare and controversial, with the last instance occurring in 1975 by Vice President Nelson Rockefeller. X posts suggest some public sentiment urging Vance to influence or override MacDonough’s decisions, particularly regarding the "Big, Beautiful Bill," but these posts do not confirm his authority to fire her
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Those look to be items that probably shouldnt be in a reconciliation bill.

The EPA one might be if you could tie it to IRA......
 
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Those look to be items that probably shouldnt be in a reconciliation bill.

The EPA one might be if you could tie it to IRA......
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nope, all those things have a right to be in the OBBB especially something like CPFB that was set in by the Dems in a way leaving it unaccountable to Congress
 
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nope, all those things have a right to be in the OBBB especially something like CPFB that was set in by the Dems in a way leaving it unaccountable to Congress
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No way the voter ID or sanctuary cities should be in there under Reconciliation. Same with CPFB. They can all be excluded multiple ways. Im for those three provisions but we cant trample on prior precedent/procedure, etc. to get there.

Deep down, the Rs knew those wouldn't make it through this parliamentarian process. Just gives them political cover.

I do wonder if the Senate could rewrite the IRA provisions they want to amend to gut EPA funding.
 
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No way the voter ID or sanctuary cities should be in there under Reconciliation. Same with CPFB. They can all be excluded multiple ways. Im for those three provisions but we cant trample on prior precedent/procedure, etc. to get there.

Deep down, the Rs knew those wouldn't make it through this parliamentarian process. Just gives them political cover.

I do wonder if the Senate could rewrite the IRA provisions they want to amend to gut EPA funding.
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GROK: (my emphasis added)

Budget reconciliation is a legislative process that allows certain fiscal bills to pass the Senate with a simple majority, bypassing the filibuster’s 60-vote requirement. Democrats have used this process to enact significant legislation when they lacked a supermajority in the Senate. Below is a list of notable laws passed by Democrats using reconciliation, based on available information:

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993
Signed: August 10, 1993, by President Bill Clinton

Key Provisions: Reduced the federal deficit through tax increases on high earners, expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and created the Direct Student Loan Program. It also included spending cuts and energy taxes to promote fiscal responsibility.

Context: Passed during a period of unified Democratic control to address deficit concerns without Republican support in the Senate.

Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996
Signed: August 22, 1996, by President Bill Clinton

Key Provisions: Reformed welfare by creating the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, replacing Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). It introduced work requirements, time limits on benefits, and block grants to states.

Context: Passed with bipartisan support but used reconciliation to expedite the process. The budgetary changes (block grants) qualified under reconciliation rules, with non-budgetary provisions allowed as “terms and conditions.”

Balanced Budget Act of 1997
Signed: August 5, 1997, by President Bill Clinton

Key Provisions: Aimed to balance the federal budget by 2002 through spending cuts, particularly in Medicare and Medicaid, and created the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). Paired with the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 (also passed via reconciliation), which cut taxes.

Context: Used reconciliation to enact spending reductions alongside tax cuts, reflecting a compromise between fiscal discipline and tax relief.

Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010
Signed: March 30, 2010, by President Barack Obama

Key Provisions: Amended the Affordable Care Act (ACA) to adjust subsidies, expand Medicaid, and reform student loan programs by eliminating private lender subsidies and increasing Pell Grants.

Context: After losing their Senate supermajority, Democrats used reconciliation to pass adjustments to the ACA (which had passed separately) and student loan reforms, requiring only a simple majority.

American Rescue Plan Act of 2021
Signed: March 11, 2021, by President Joe Biden

Key Provisions: Provided $1.9 trillion in COVID-19 relief, including $1,400 stimulus checks, extended unemployment benefits, state and local government aid, and expanded Child Tax Credit. It increased the federal deficit.

Context: Passed with a 50-50 Senate (Vice President Harris broke the tie) to address the economic and health impacts of the pandemic without Republican support.

Inflation Reduction Act of 2022
Signed: August 16, 2022, by President Joe Biden

Key Provisions: Allocated $740 billion for climate change initiatives (e.g., clean energy tax credits), healthcare (e.g., allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices), and tax reforms (e.g., a corporate minimum tax). It aimed to reduce the deficit over time.

Context: Passed via reconciliation with a 51-50 Senate vote (Vice President Harris breaking the tie), focusing on Democratic priorities like climate and healthcare affordability.

Notes:
Reconciliation Constraints: Reconciliation is limited to provisions affecting spending, revenues, or the debt limit, and must comply with the Byrd Rule, which prohibits “extraneous” measures. For example, a minimum wage increase was struck from a 2021 reconciliation attempt due to Byrd Rule violations.

Historical Context: Democrats have used reconciliation strategically when lacking a 60-vote Senate majority, often for major fiscal or social policy goals. While originally intended for deficit reduction, it has been used for deficit-increasing measures like the American Rescue Plan.

Vetoed Bills: Democrats passed the Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act of 1999 and the Marriage Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2000 via reconciliation, but both were vetoed by President Clinton for increasing deficits without offsetting spending cuts

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jmacvols1: the only thing in the list that had nothing to do with the budget, (spending, revenues, etc) is voter ID. Why would any Dem or Rep be against having safe, fair elections where only qualified, legal voters are allowed to vote?
 
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GROK: (my emphasis added)

Budget reconciliation is a legislative process that allows certain fiscal bills to pass the Senate with a simple majority, bypassing the filibuster’s 60-vote requirement. Democrats have used this process to enact significant legislation when they lacked a supermajority in the Senate. Below is a list of notable laws passed by Democrats using reconciliation, based on available information:

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993
Signed: August 10, 1993, by President Bill Clinton

Key Provisions: Reduced the federal deficit through tax increases on high earners, expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), and created the Direct Student Loan Program. It also included spending cuts and energy taxes to promote fiscal responsibility.

Context: Passed during a period of unified Democratic control to address deficit concerns without Republican support in the Senate.

Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act of 1996
Signed: August 22, 1996, by President Bill Clinton

Key Provisions: Reformed welfare by creating the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, replacing Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC). It introduced work requirements, time limits on benefits, and block grants to states.

Context: Passed with bipartisan support but used reconciliation to expedite the process. The budgetary changes (block grants) qualified under reconciliation rules, with non-budgetary provisions allowed as “terms and conditions.”

Balanced Budget Act of 1997
Signed: August 5, 1997, by President Bill Clinton

Key Provisions: Aimed to balance the federal budget by 2002 through spending cuts, particularly in Medicare and Medicaid, and created the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP). Paired with the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 (also passed via reconciliation), which cut taxes.

Context: Used reconciliation to enact spending reductions alongside tax cuts, reflecting a compromise between fiscal discipline and tax relief.

Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010
Signed: March 30, 2010, by President Barack Obama

Key Provisions: Amended the Affordable Care Act (ACA) to adjust subsidies, expand Medicaid, and reform student loan programs by eliminating private lender subsidies and increasing Pell Grants.

Context: After losing their Senate supermajority, Democrats used reconciliation to pass adjustments to the ACA (which had passed separately) and student loan reforms, requiring only a simple majority.

American Rescue Plan Act of 2021
Signed: March 11, 2021, by President Joe Biden

Key Provisions: Provided $1.9 trillion in COVID-19 relief, including $1,400 stimulus checks, extended unemployment benefits, state and local government aid, and expanded Child Tax Credit. It increased the federal deficit.

Context: Passed with a 50-50 Senate (Vice President Harris broke the tie) to address the economic and health impacts of the pandemic without Republican support.

Inflation Reduction Act of 2022
Signed: August 16, 2022, by President Joe Biden

Key Provisions: Allocated $740 billion for climate change initiatives (e.g., clean energy tax credits), healthcare (e.g., allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices), and tax reforms (e.g., a corporate minimum tax). It aimed to reduce the deficit over time.

Context: Passed via reconciliation with a 51-50 Senate vote (Vice President Harris breaking the tie), focusing on Democratic priorities like climate and healthcare affordability.

Notes:
Reconciliation Constraints: Reconciliation is limited to provisions affecting spending, revenues, or the debt limit, and must comply with the Byrd Rule, which prohibits “extraneous” measures. For example, a minimum wage increase was struck from a 2021 reconciliation attempt due to Byrd Rule violations.

Historical Context: Democrats have used reconciliation strategically when lacking a 60-vote Senate majority, often for major fiscal or social policy goals. While originally intended for deficit reduction, it has been used for deficit-increasing measures like the American Rescue Plan.

Vetoed Bills: Democrats passed the Taxpayer Refund and Relief Act of 1999 and the Marriage Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2000 via reconciliation, but both were vetoed by President Clinton for increasing deficits without offsetting spending cuts

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jmacvols1: the only thing in the list that had nothing to do with the budget, (spending, revenues, etc) is voter ID. Why would any Dem or Rep be against having safe, fair elections where only qualified, legal voters are allowed to vote?
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For the most part, Reconciliation can only be used for mandatory spending. Its why CPFB got booted, especially with the way it got drafted. Sanctuary cities and voting ID fail on it being extraneous, discretionary, and policy matters.

Not arguing using reconciliation for this tax bill or the validity of those 4 items. Put photo ID to a Senate vote and make Dems vote on it. But we gotta respect the process for passing a bill..

I put a blurb a few weeks ago about Rs potentially looking to increase the stock buyback tax to cover funding gaps once the Senate process got the bill. These were some of the known funding gaps and Rs knew they wouldn't make it through..
 
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@jmacvols1- I am thinking through how state aid and unemployment checks got through in 2021. Maybe it was because it wasnt a policy change (extending existing legislation) but kinda curious how those survived Reconciliation....
 
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didn't Obamacare go through reconciliation and when challenged at SCOTUS Roberts agreed it was a tax thingy?

I don't like it but it ain't new.
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I dont mind Reconciliation, but it isnt meant to squeeze through Voter ID or minimum wage increase or California rail funding or to cut "sanctuary city" funding.....
 
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ESPN Analyst Apologizes for Saying ‘That’s What Makes America Great’ During WNBA Broadcast​


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In perhaps the most ESPN move of all time, an analyst has apologized for saying, “That’s what makes America great,” during a WNBA broadcast over the weekend.

The moment occurred during Sunday’s broadcast of the Fever-Aces game in Las Vegas, when ESPN analyst and WNBA legend Rebecca Lobo discussed the freedom to disagree while commenting on a call with which she disagreed with an official.

“They disagree with you,” play-by-play announcer Pam Ward said to Lobo after officials reviewed a call and came to the opposite conclusion.

“They do, and I disagree with them,” Lobo responded. “And that’s fine. That’s what makes America great, right, Pam Ward?”

That comment was a supreme no-no, apparently. After a prolonged and awkward silence, Lobo said, “I should rephrase that.”

Ward responded, “Yes.”

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ESPN Analyst Apologizes for Saying 'That's What Makes America Great' During WNBA Broadcast

An ESPN analyst has apologized for saying, "That's what makes America great," during a WNBA broadcast over the weekend.
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