President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

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whodeycin85 said:
He got rid the the head of ICE because he wasn't reporting enough illegals...that's the conversation...that what we are discussing...his argument would have been more effective had he spoke about the amount requested by his boss as an absurd amount of deportations..but he didn't argue that..so he argued keeping someone who doesn't do their job and have no reason why he shouldn't have been let go
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Is there a mandate to report a minimum amount? Or was he just "letting it go" in some cases? If that's the case and it's detailed, he should be gone
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Is there a mandate to report a minimum amount? Or was he just "letting it go" in some cases? If that's the case and it's detailed, he should be gone
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Not sure of the details just what was reported as the reason..so regardless of an actual number, he wasn't performing up to his bosses standard...so he was let go.
 
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C-south said:
When you’re getting rid of people regardless it doesn’t matter.
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Yes, it does quite often. At least, successful large corporations know it. When conducting thorough efficiency audits, some key employees can be repositioned successfully. It's tried and proven. Ultimately the work force is reduced, but employee assets are preserved
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Yes, it does quite often. At least, successful large corporations know it. When conducting thorough efficiency audits, some key employees can be repositioned successfully. It's tried and proven. Ultimately the work force is reduced, but employee assets are preserved
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Well fortunately they took volunteers first. I’m sure there was some level of assessment after that.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Let’s lose those appeals to emotion and see how this reads…. As I thought, it sounds exactly like the argument you’d make to federally restrict states from making decisions on abortion and/or guns.

I assume you’re willing to take my word for it that the manner in which he’s threatening to withhold funds is probably impermissibly coercive and unlawful (South Dakota v. Dole)? You still good with it?

Also worth noting that this was a decision of the state legislature, the affected parties were represented, and neither Maine nor the United States have a constitutional provision that restricts them from passing the law. So are you good with your genius “lock up all the kids to protect a few” model being applied to things like hunting? We get some PETA president that says states have to stop issuing hunting licenses or lose federal funding and says “well, the deer can’t protect themselves,” you’d be good with that?
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Mine are not emotional appeals, but logical and based in individual rights. That extends to firearm rights. I don't think the state or Fed have the constitutional power to deprive the first or unduly encumber the second.

I didn't say or imply anything remotely similar to 'locking up the kids', that was you. The dog-beater is the state in this case. I can attempt to intervene in the abuse I see occurring. If the dog is saved and the guy takes it out on the kids, he (the state) is making the choice to remain abusive; then he should be locked up, not the kids.

Whether one likes it or not, federal funding is strings-attached regardless of state law. I think Federal court is the proper place to sort it. In the meantime, I'm glad that it is being publicized as the wrong it is, win or lose in court. And since these things slide under the radar often, perhaps Maine residents need that awareness, and petition their legislature.

If Maine had a state law against hunting children that the Fed wanted to strike because Fed $ were allocated, I'd side with Maine in federal court.
 
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C-south said:
Well fortunately there took volunteers first. I’m sure there was some level of assessment after that.
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Nothing wrong with employees leaving who are ready to retire anyway. There are always a handful who want to continue and have something to offer. They are trying to do a 12 month job in 3 months. I do understand the urgency, but it is entirely political
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Again why keep someone who isn't performing up to the standards of their boss...the fact you haven't answered this tell everyone all they need to know about you opinions.
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I'm on board man, fire these slackers.

Let's take it a step further, and fire any ICE agent who misses their daily quota, and anyone up their chain of command.

We can even parlay it into "DOGE savings" then
 
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NCFisher said:
Mine are not emotional appeals, but logical and based in individual rights. That extends to firearm rights. I don't think the state or Fed have the constitutional power to deprive the first or unduly encumber the second.

I didn't say or imply anything remotely similar to 'locking up the kids', that was you. The dog-beater is the state in this case. I can attempt to intervene in the abuse I see occurring. If the dog is saved and the guy takes it out on the kids, he (the state) is making the choice to remain abusive; then he should be locked up, not the kids.

Whether one likes it or not, federal funding is strings-attached regardless of state law. I think Federal court is the proper place to sort it. In the meantime, I'm glad that it is being publicized as the wrong it is, win or lose in court. And since these things slide under the radar often, perhaps Maine residents need that awareness, and petition their legislature.

If Maine had a state law against hunting children that the Fed wanted to strike because Fed $ were allocated, I'd side with Maine in federal court.
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The bottom line is....who do you expect to defend this country? That security blanket means everything. I hope we actually recoup funds to establish a solid 4% towards the military. Musk's government contracts absolutely can't get any saved funds
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
The bottom line is....who do you expect to defend this country? That security blanket means everything. I hope we actually recoup funds to establish a solid 4% towards the military. Musk's government contracts absolutely can't get any saved funds
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I'm slow on the uptake but pretty sure RT85 and I were not discussing military contracts or national security - ? Did you mean to quote someone else?
 
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LSU-SIU said:


Without additional information (assuming true for discussion) as to the degree of the NATO agreement, just on the surface I would consider this a material breach of working in good faith. There were news stories of NATO trying to protect funding prior to the election.

Time to withdraw?

(There is going to be a lot of dead people in Europe, probably a lot more than last time)
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Five-Eyes Russia Hoax Part II
 
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jmacvols1 said:
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more info on usps:


BREAKING: President Trump is preparing to dissolve the leadership of the U.S. Postal Service and merge the agency with the Department of Commerce.

Postal board members & their teams will be fired imminently.

Earlier, President Trump said, "We want to have a Post Office that works well and doesn't lose massive amounts of money ... It'll remain the Postal Service, and I think it'll operate a lot better than it has been over the years."

 
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BeardedVol said:
Let me know when they settle a lawsuit for 3/4 of a billion dollars for false and defamatory statements, and I'll let you know then .
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So a lawsuit is your determining factor on truth or not. Your commmon sense battery is low. I’m sure you trusted 51 intelligence agents because of their title.
 
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