Premiere of "The Interview" cancelled

#76
#76
Another thing that's a bit ironic...the people calling Hollywood wimps for backing down from premiering this movie in fear of terrorist retaliation are the same people who say the government shouldn't have made the torture report public, out of fear of retaliation.
 
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#78
#78
If they want to fight back just release the film free to the entire world on the interent. That clown does not want it to be distributed, show him this type tactic does not work in Hollywood!
 
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CNCVol88 said:
Just put it on Netflix.
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They've now announced that it will not be released in any format, ever. Sony must have some serious dirt that they don't want released to the public in order for that to happen.
 
#81
#81
Movie theaters were going to show Team Anerica instead and Paramount pictures is forcing them to pull that movie too. Wild.
 
#83
#83
After thinking about it since they have totally capitulated, they probably cut a deal because they did not want any additional data released. If they stop releasing data we will know this is true.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's going to get leaked. Has to. Anonymous will hack Sony and extract it.
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n_huffhines said:
I will be very surprised if this movie doesn't get leaked somehow.
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I'm sure it's somewhere just a matter of finding it.

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#88
What if the U.S. determined that this attack (or one like it) came from a Chinese office complex? What should the response be? Is it a criminal matter?
 
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Velo Vol said:
What if the U.S. determined that this attack (or one like it) came from a Chinese office complex? What should the response be? Is it a criminal matter?
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China has already attacked government assets on a repeated basis. Most attacks were against honeypots so we know Chinese heuristic methods.

It wouldn't even be a slap on the wrist. I've never been to JTF-HOA but I did serve with 2 guys that were there. The French were trying to break into our sat links on the daily.

It wouldn't matter. It's not a declaration of war or anything. It's more of a government "you cheeky buggar" on the attacker and a great excuse to further tighten or introduce legislation allowing more and more government control of internet resources.

I was out last night and at the bar of the restaurant I was at, a media source (2 guesses who it was!) was just repeatedly calling this a terrorist attack. Guess what that leads to? More domestic surveillance. More patdowns at airports.
 
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Velo Vol said:
What if the U.S. determined that this attack (or one like it) came from a Chinese office complex? What should the response be? Is it a criminal matter?
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It's not criminal when they make terroristic threats against a nation. It sounds like attacks came from a privately owned North Koean hotel inside China. Apparently part of the hang up is that we don't want to reveal what we really understand about their attacking methods. We could stop it immediately, but then we might lose 99% of our insight into North Korea since there aren't many ways to spy on them.
 
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#91
There was a fellow on Fox this morning making a pretty convincing case that the evidence is extremely thin that it was North Korea. Apparently, the only basis for that is a "call back" script within the malware that told it to send data to an IP address in North Korea. But this guy explained that it could just be part of the malware, which had been used before. It doesn't mean it came from there and in fact there are many instances where there are multiple call back scripts in the same malware, to different places.

He said given the volume and type of information taken, he is very skeptical that it was done by someone solely outside Sony, that it has all the earmarks of an inside job, perhaps a disgruntled employee. Someone familiar with their system and its contents, and who has basically committed the crime and left a note from someone else taking the blame/credit.

Now, let me also play devil's advocate here on the notion that whoever did this might well have done us an enormous favor. Consider:

1) This incident has brought the issue to the fore. There is now discussion about making available to business some of the more advanced government techniques to defend against cyber attacks. Though the issue has been talked about before, we have a concrete example and that might make everyone more careful.

2) We're out one movie. Not a nuclear power plant or air traffic control, or the nation's banking system. And apparently, according to the critics who did see it, we are out one pretty bad movie.

Just saying, if the issue is going to go to the top of the list of things for us to deal with, maybe this wasn't such a bad way to get it there. There could be worse.
 
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#92
Source: Hackers send new message to Sony - Dec. 19, 2014

The hackers behind a devastating cyberattack at Sony Pictures have sent a new message to executives at the company, crediting them for a "very wise" decision to cancel the Christmas day release of "The Interview," a source close to the company told CNN.

The email message was received by Sony's top executives on Thursday night and was obtained by CNN.
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lawgator1 said:
There was a fellow on Fox this morning making a pretty convincing case that the evidence is extremely thin that it was North Korea. Apparently, the only basis for that is a "call back" script within the malware that told it to send data to an IP address in North Korea. But this guy explained that it could just be part of the malware, which had been used before. It doesn't mean it came from there and in fact there are many instances where there are multiple call back scripts in the same malware, to different places.

He said given the volume and type of information taken, he is very skeptical that it was done by someone solely outside Sony, that it has all the earmarks of an inside job, perhaps a disgruntled employee. Someone familiar with their system and its contents, and who has basically committed the crime and left a note from someone else taking the blame/credit.

Now, let me also play devil's advocate here on the notion that whoever did this might well have done us an enormous favor. Consider:

1) This incident has brought the issue to the fore. There is now discussion about making available to business some of the more advanced government techniques to defend against cyber attacks. Though the issue has been talked about before, we have a concrete example and that might make everyone more careful.

2) We're out one movie. Not a nuclear power plant or air traffic control, or the nation's banking system. And apparently, according to the critics who did see it, we are out one pretty bad movie.

Just saying, if the issue is going to go to the top of the list of things for us to deal with, maybe this wasn't such a bad way to get it there. There could be worse.
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I have a feeling the guy was talking out of his rear and is trying to downplay the incident. There is apparently proof that actually shows North Korea's involvement. If this was the result of a disgruntled employee, then why haven't they caught the guy yet?
 
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davethevol said:
I have a feeling the guy was talking out of his rear and is trying to downplay the incident. There is apparently proof that actually shows North Korea's involvement. If this was the result of a disgruntled employee, then why haven't they caught the guy yet?
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Why haven't they ID'ed the hackers?
 
#96
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lawgator1 said:
There was a fellow on Fox this morning making a pretty convincing case that the evidence is extremely thin that it was North Korea. Apparently, the only basis for that is a "call back" script within the malware that told it to send data to an IP address in North Korea. But this guy explained that it could just be part of the malware, which had been used before. It doesn't mean it came from there and in fact there are many instances where there are multiple call back scripts in the same malware, to different places.

He said given the volume and type of information taken, he is very skeptical that it was done by someone solely outside Sony, that it has all the earmarks of an inside job, perhaps a disgruntled employee. Someone familiar with their system and its contents, and who has basically committed the crime and left a note from someone else taking the blame/credit.

Now, let me also play devil's advocate here on the notion that whoever did this might well have done us an enormous favor. Consider:

1) This incident has brought the issue to the fore. There is now discussion about making available to business some of the more advanced government techniques to defend against cyber attacks. Though the issue has been talked about before, we have a concrete example and that might make everyone more careful.

2) We're out one movie. Not a nuclear power plant or air traffic control, or the nation's banking system. And apparently, according to the critics who did see it, we are out one pretty bad movie.

Just saying, if the issue is going to go to the top of the list of things for us to deal with, maybe this wasn't such a bad way to get it there. There could be worse.
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Fairly objective. Makes sense. Logical...

Now untie LG so we know he isn't being held for ransom.

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And apparently, according to the critics who did see it, we are out one pretty bad movie
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Most "critics" wouldn't know a decent movie is it jumped up and bit them in the ass.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Why haven't they ID'ed the hackers?
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If this were an inside job, there would be proof at this point rather than speculation. This was an effort carried out by a group, not one or two irate employees.

This guy on Fox News reminds me of the Senator a few years back talking about the Internet and how it was a series of tubes.
 
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#98
And then you've got info like this:
Intelligence officials “know very specifically who the attackers are,” said one individual familiar with the investigation, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the case is ongoing. They are North Korean government personnel, the individual said. The hackers were able to root around for three weeks in Sony’s network before being detected, the source said.

White House says Sony hack is a serious national security matter - The Washington Post
 
#99
#99
The first amendment is directly under threat. I never though i'd see the day that Hollywood would be scared s*itless of North Korea and their Dictator.
 
#100
#100
We need anonymous to step in and hack the hackers. I'd be surprised if they don't try to do something. They hate terrorists* and they love free speech.

*obviously they are terrorists, but they go after those in authority or bullies. They like the common folk.
 
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